Chapter 48 - "A Clear and Present Danger" - Discussion Thread 2/2/09

[chaseter]

Why would there be? Peter already had Mohinder's power...

Which debunks the one power at a time theory That is what he was getting at.

 

[chaseter]

Maybe he wants to keep a low-profile and not draw too much attention.

That is what India would be for After all that went down and people were murdered...I would get out of the country But, the writers thought hey...this would be neater

 

[carrrnuttt]

Maybe he wants to keep a low-profile and not draw too much attention.

Not to mention still be able to be mobile, in case he needs to get to someone fast and/or run.

 

[pjspider1C]

^ Maybe he just really likes driving cabs...

 

[mr. peasant]

Which debunks the one power at a time theory That is what he was getting at.

Not really... the special effect is likely only used as and when it is needed; i.e. when the absorbed power will be used and so the viewers need to actually notice the physical contact shortly before Peter actually using said power.

 

[Gilpesh]

But he still has potential. I actually like the idea of him finding out where he came from.

He doesn't have potential. And the best idea of where he came from?

Was season one where he came from a broken home where his dad was just a watchmaker and his mom messed him up because of making him need to be special. This s--t of his dad now being special also and all mysterious... is just s--t.

They're out of stories with Sylar and shouldn't have dug him out of that rubble until they came up with something better than "NEW DAD!".

 

[Neptune]

Well in season 1 they never said anything about his dad.

 

[SuperT]

That is what India would be for After all that went down and people were murdered...I would get out of the country But, the writers thought hey...this would be neater

Why would he go back to India, he has has nothing there except his mother.

He was ostracized from his school for following in what they thought was his father's foolish footsteps, so he wouldn't have any better of a life then he had before he came to America.

 

[chaseter]

Why would he not go back to India? The girl he co-adopted with Matt is there??? Who is watching Molly? He wouldn't just send her to India and let her fend for herself. He still knows people there and even had a love interest there. What does America have for him?

 

[chaseter]

Not really... the special effect is likely only used as and when it is needed; i.e. when the absorbed power will be used and so the viewers need to actually notice the physical contact shortly before Peter actually using said power.

So explain to me how he switches between powers? How stupid of a power would it be if Peter had to bring along people in order to use those powers because he had to retouch them each time

 

[mr. peasant]

So explain to me how he switches between powers? How stupid of a power would it be if Peter had to bring along people in order to use those powers because he had to retouch them each time

That's precisely the point! One of the biggest reoccurring plot hole with Peter was why he simply didn't use one of his many acquired powers to instantly resolve the situation. Instead, he simply didn't use them, making him look dumb, especially since the solution would be often painfully obvious. Now, they've solved the problem while still keeping the essence of Peter's power the same.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Why would he not go back to India? The girl he co-adopted with Matt is there??? Who is watching Molly? He wouldn't just send her to India and let her fend for herself. He still knows people there and even had a love interest there. What does America have for him?

Many taxi cars.

 

[chaseter]

That's precisely the point! One of the biggest reoccurring plot hole with Peter was why he simply didn't use one of his many acquired powers to instantly resolve the situation. Instead, he simply didn't use them, making him look dumb, especially since the solution would be often painfully obvious. Now, they've solved the problem while still keeping the essence of Peter's power the same.

So he has to keep Mohinder and Traci near if he wants to use strength and ice? I am sorry but if it turns out that way then Gilpesh is right...it is horrible fan fiction. They are listening to people complain and they quick fix it instead of going with what they wanted to do. Continuity...gotta love it or don't

 

[SuperT]

It wasn't a quick fix, it was something that people that weren't even fans of the show, journals, magazines etc. were complaining about as a weak spot of the show that Peter was too powerful and that he didn't use certain powers at certain times that made the stories flimsy.

They never put a limit or rule on Peter's powers until it finally became a glaring problem.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Imagine how amazing it would be, if we had not seen Sylar since the season 1finale, and then in this episode, Claire pulls the bag off of his head and that was the cliff hanger. Imagine how much more effective it would be.

At this point, Sylar is essentially Rocksteady and BeeBop. You know he is not a real threat as none of the main characters die, yet at the same time...you know he isn't going anywhere or really ever going to change.

Dude, I agree! The producers said way back during season 1 that character we love will die, but how come the leads seem immune to this? Imagine how cool it would be if Nathan, Peter, and Sylar all died. Then they introduced completely new Heroes. So far all they've done is kill good characters who never had a chance to evolve fully. Then they leave characters who have gone as far as they can go alive forever.

I get that Zachary and Milo are big draws for heroes, but those two really need to die and make room for new more interesting characters.

I mean imagine if Peter died heroically killing Sylar the way Superboy died fighting Superman-Prime. That would have been brilliant. Then they could start the show over again, maybe this time with a teen hero going to high school and secretly using his powers Spider-Man style.

I mean, this show could reboot itself into so many different comic book settings is ridiculous, but they just keep beating dead horses...

 

[chaseter]

It wasn't a quick fix, it was something that people that weren't even fans of the show, journals, magazines etc. were complaining about as a weak spot of the show that Peter was too powerful and that he didn't use certain powers at certain times that made the stories flimsy.

They never put a limit or rule on Peter's powers until it finally became a glaring problem.

And now they have a glaring continuity problem. Listening to fans never works: see Venom in SM3. As soon as this show started catering to the fans, it went to ****

 

[Tyrinus]

The "I forgot what Claude taught me in regards to juggling multiple powers at a time while trying to lead a normal life for a long time since I gained flight" explanation is the only good way to handle this...personally, Pete would be boring if he could only do one power at a time.

If he had Arthurs ability Monhinder and Traci would be ****ed...and Arthur used multiple abilities at a time didn't he?

Also, Pete was surprised he flew at the end of the last episode and he grabbed Nathan...he was just trying to dive and push him out the way or something but instead flew.

Could be Peter wasn't really concerned with what power he got from the serum. Nathan can fly, if they both went out the window, he still would have been able to fly them down safely no matter what power Peter acquired.

 

[mr. peasant]

I mean imagine if Peter died heroically killing Sylar the way Superboy died fighting Superman-Prime. That would have been brilliant. Then they could start the show over again, maybe this time with a teen hero going to high school and secretly using his powers Spider-Man style.

I mean, this show could reboot itself into so many different comic book settings is ridiculous, but they just keep beating dead horses...

That was what Kring originally intended to do; i.e. every season feature a fresh batch of characters with no direct relation to the previous group. However, the audience didn't like said concept. In a way, it's with good reason. I mean, there's a reason why the original Power Rangers were far more memorable than the more recent ones that reboot every year. If there's no sense of attachment, it's hard to get people invested in the show.

And now they have a glaring continuity problem. Listening to fans never works: see Venom in SM3. As soon as this show started catering to the fans, it went to ****

It wouldn't so much of listening to fans as to allow/ease storytelling. Using Peter's original powers, they only had either of two options:

1. Simply cause Peter to seemingly forget/pretend not to have certain key abilities that would instantly resolve the situation.
   
2. Make the problems increasingly more difficult and challenging (not always easy to do) so that Peter has to struggle to overcome the problem.

The producers tried Option 1 for awhile but it didn't take as it simply made Peter look stupid and the plots iffy. They didn't even both with Option 2 as its problem is immediately obvious; namely the Super Saiyan Syndrome wherein Peter would eventually be the only one ever to save the day.

Incidentally, the producers seem to be cleaning up these instant-fix abilities, particularly for the protagonists. Aside from Peter, Hiro likewise lost his abilities.

 

[chaseter]

Because fans and critics know so much more than the people who wrote the award winning first season that for some reason we adore

 

[DarkSuperman]

Because fans and critics know so much more than the people who wrote the award winning first season that for some reason we adore

But are those writers still working on the show? I thought most the original writers were gone or something.

 

[SuperT]

The majority of the original writers are gone, yes.

 

[Gilpesh]

The majority of the original writers are gone, yes.

But wasn't this episode in the can before that?

 

[SuperT]

But wasn't this episode in the can before that?

I think you're confused, I was referring to season one. The majority of the writers that were a big part of it are all gone.

Almost all of them moved on after season one was over.

 

[Gilpesh]

I think you're confused, I was referring to season one.

Ah. Thought everyone was talking the less than stellar volumes' writers.

 

[insane polaris]

If the one power at a time is correct (which i hope)

It will be interesting bcos he's always gonna have a power because of the last person he touch.

It will be good to see how Peter copes in situations where his current power held is not as effective.

Then there'll be those occassions when super powered people are round him and he'll have a selection from the bunch.

I'll laugh if he has to fight Sylar and only has the power to see through walls or something less aggressive like that.