Chapter 59 - "An Invisible Thread" Discussion Thread - 4/27/09

[KALEL114]

I'm starting to think that with Sylar's fractured psyche, he is going to end up using the new power he got last episode to kill himself.

Especially after reading these spoilers.

Spoiler

04/22 - Sylar will kill a Season 1 Character. We will see more of Matt's darkside. Hiro and Ando combine their powers in attempt to take down Building 26. Nathan and Sylar will face-off. Actor Michael Dorn returns as the President. Tracy will return. The end of the episode will lead into Volume 5: Redemption and we will meet the new female baddie.

Spoiler

According to Greg Grunberg, "The last two episodes are absolutely huge. My character is asked to do something, and does something, that is incredibly dark and results in the demise of another character. It's not expected. It's pretty sick. Torture is involved. It's someone we all know. It felt great to tap into my dark side." [...] Sources confirm to us that the Heroes death that sticks is male, and he's someone you've definitely come to know quite well since season one. In many ways, the killer also dies, but you'll just have to wait until next week to understand what that means.

 

[Antrax255]

I'm starting to think that with Sylar's fractured psyche, he is going to end up using the new power he got last episode to kill himself.

Especially after reading these spoilers.

Spoiler

04/22 - Sylar will kill a Season 1 Character. We will see more of Matt's darkside. Hiro and Ando combine their powers in attempt to take down Building 26. Nathan and Sylar will face-off. Actor Michael Dorn returns as the President. Tracy will return. The end of the episode will lead into Volume 5: Redemption and we will meet the new female baddie.

Spoiler

According to Greg Grunberg, "The last two episodes are absolutely huge. My character is asked to do something, and does something, that is incredibly dark and results in the demise of another character. It's not expected. It's pretty sick. Torture is involved. It's someone we all know. It felt great to tap into my dark side." [...] Sources confirm to us that the Heroes death that sticks is male, and he's someone you've definitely come to know quite well since season one. In many ways, the killer also dies, but you'll just have to wait until next week to understand what that means.

The Sylar persona might die I hope Matt dies he is the Chloe of Heroes.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I actually would like if Peter died. It would show a lot of guts and it might force the show to go in a new direction.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Never, they'd never kill off the only character that has a heart of gold. What they need to do is give him more air time though gurr...
I think

Spoiler

Nathan will die but Matt will have Sylar be put into Nathan or vice a versa. Nathan could keep Sylars personality and maybe ability and would look like Nathan. Maybe every few episodes Sylars personality could leak out and do what Sylar did. Than he'd be sideline villain for now, no one would know. They could have Peter maybe be the first one to find out and try to stop him secretly it'd be cool. He could team up with Matt maybe since he'd know and would be having kind of a heart attack from keeping it all a secret from every one and letting the real Nathan die.

Cool storyline idea?

 

[Deaths Head II]

Micah has a heart of gold too. And Micah is the only character currently using his powers to help other people. Even complete strangers.

I would actually be for Micah being the uniting force, but Nathan going down that path would be interesting. Peter's death might even convince him to emulate his brother's attitude and try to do what he did with his powers.

 

[Matt]

Exactly. Peter's death at this point would be far more effective and daring. Still, Fueller seems dead set on returning everything to the status quo when he left...that means dead Nathan (as Fueller planned, if I'm not mistaken), Parkman going down the darkside, etc.

It's funny, Fueller has been back on the show for a few months and all he's really accomplished is making it season one again.

 

[Ryudoz]

Exactly. Peter's death at this point would be far more effective and daring. Still, Fueller seems dead set on returning everything to the status quo when he left...that means dead Nathan (as Fueller planned, if I'm not mistaken), Parkman going down the darkside, etc.

It's funny, Fueller has been back on the show for a few months and all he's really accomplished is making it season one again.

Dare I say though that at the very least it's recoup some of the indignity of Volume 3?

 

[bullets]

Meanwhile Hiro is having anuerysm

 

[Booznian]

I'm starting to think that with Sylar's fractured psyche, he is going to end up using the new power he got last episode to kill himself.

Especially after reading these spoilers.

Spoiler

04/22 - Sylar will kill a Season 1 Character. We will see more of Matt's darkside. Hiro and Ando combine their powers in attempt to take down Building 26. Nathan and Sylar will face-off. Actor Michael Dorn returns as the President. Tracy will return. The end of the episode will lead into Volume 5: Redemption and we will meet the new female baddie.

Spoiler

According to Greg Grunberg, "The last two episodes are absolutely huge. My character is asked to do something, and does something, that is incredibly dark and results in the demise of another character. It's not expected. It's pretty sick. Torture is involved. It's someone we all know. It felt great to tap into my dark side." [...] Sources confirm to us that the Heroes death that sticks is male, and he's someone you've definitely come to know quite well since season one. In many ways, the killer also dies, but you'll just have to wait until next week to understand what that means.

Source? Where did you get these spoilers?

I like it!

 

[KALEL114]

Source? Where did you get these spoilers?

I like it!

http://www.spoilerfix.com/heroes.php

 

[Matt]

Dare I say though that at the very least it's recoup some of the indignity of Volume 3?

Permanently killing Peter, would in my opinion restore all of the show's dignity and bring a real sense of suspense back. Unfortunately, I do not believe the writers have the balls for it.

 

[Ryudoz]

Permanently killing Peter, would in my opinion restore all of the show's dignity and bring a real sense of suspense back. Unfortunately, I do not believe the writers have the balls for it.

As much as I would hate to see Peter go, I would have to agree. It would definitely bring back that sense that there is real danger, and that no one is safe. But yes, they don't have the testicular fortitude to do it.

 

[JPC4]

Permanently killing Peter, would in my opinion restore all of the show's dignity and bring a real sense of suspense back. Unfortunately, I do not believe the writers have the balls for it.

Agreed from a logical point of view. But from a personal point of view, Sylar needs to die. He's cheated death too many times to count. Plus he's like a security blanket for the writers. Whenenver they fail to show imminent danger for the "heroes", or write a suspenseful story arc, they can always just fall back on Sylar just walking around cutting peoples' domes open. Because of this, I can't vote for Peter dying before Sylar.

 

[Matt]

Unfortunately, based on Angela's scream and Sylar's "Claire is going to be so mad at me," comment, I'm guessing neither will die and instead it will be Nathan...the character who has had the best development this season and easily the most potential to grow as a character right now.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

I hope they wouldn't have the balls. They would loose tons of fans if they did LOL. I've been to thousands of forums and they all said they'd leave if Peter were to ever die

 

[Matt]

A few hundred fanboys on internet forums does not equal tons of fans

 

[SuperT]

New Canadian Promo:

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[The Showstopper]

New Canadian Promo:

I'm begining to think the Nathan dying thing may be a misdirection. Maybe they are setting up that Peter will die. In that clip when Noah says " If you don't do this Nathan will be gone forever." it cuts to show Parkman when he says Nathan. Perhaps the line is different and they edited it and put in Nathan instead of Peter. Idk, maybe I'm just over analyzing. This has been one of the worst weeks of my life and my head isnt on right...

 

[Deaths Head II]

I hope they wouldn't have the balls. They would loose tons of fans if they did LOL. I've been to thousands of forums and they all said they'd leave if Peter were to ever die

That attitude is why Heroes refuses to do anything interesting and why it's stagnating.

And I'm hoping that it's misdirection. It seems too obvious that Nathan is going to die that the only way the finale could be interesting is if they are misleading us.

 

[Steyin]

And I'm hoping that it's misdirection. It seems too obvious that Nathan is going to die that the only way the finale could be interesting is if they are misleading us.

Considering how predictable this volume has been with its deaths, Nathan is the obvious choice, and I hope it is him because I can't stand his character any more. And I disagree with Matt, I don't feel his character can grow/change any more nor add anything to the show in the future. He's past his prime and needs to be removed.

Also, as much as I like Parkman now, they should bench him for a season (have him be with his wife and son off screen) and bring him back in another season that has a few years gone by so we can see potentially how he has trained his son to use his powers.

As for Peter, while killing him would certainly be ballsy, I feel he is the backbone of the show like someone else mentioned. Without him I wouldn't be interested in the show as much. If anything, they really should just drop the Petrelli saga out of the mix and just have Peter move on and develop, and kill Nathan and bench Angela. I also think they should bench Noah and spend less time on Claire; I really can't stand either of them much more and would rather see new characters brought in to focus on, so that they can tie in back later on. Alas this will never happen.

 

[Dark Helmet]

The writers wont kill Peter because no matter what they wont win. The only acceptable way for Peter to die for good is if he takes Sylar with him for good & the writers wont lose Sylar because he is the golden boy of the show & if Peter dies just to die & not take Sylar with him the back slash will be huge & show cancelling agenda unless Peter comes back. So if Peter dies for good he better take Sylar with him for good which wont happen so I think Peter is safe. Just look at the back slash they got for killing Nathan in the Season: 1 finale. Peter is not going anywhere. Peter & Sylar are not going anywhere unless Peter goes out taking Sylar out & that won't happen

 

[Deaths Head II]

Considering how predictable this volume has been with its deaths, Nathan is the obvious choice, and I hope it is him because I can't stand his character any more. And I disagree with Matt, I don't feel his character can grow/change any more nor add anything to the show in the future. He's past his prime and needs to be removed.

I disagree. They've always hinted that Nathan has potential as a good guy but the show never brought it forward as he spent most of his time on the opposite side of his brother on every matter.

Just look at the back slash they got for killing Nathan in the Season: 1 finale.

Yeah, they brought back Nathan and now the show is going nowhere. That's what I'm talking about. If they can't make some gutsy decisions and stick with them then this show is only proving it's not interested in doing anything unique or original and it might as well get canceled.

 

[Dark Helmet]

Also if Sylar want's to be President so damn bad why doesn't he just shape shift into the current President & go from there ? He would get things done alot quicker. He has no grudge against Peter or anything to specifically want to be Nathan

 

[Obi-Ron]

A few hundred fanboys on internet forums does not equal tons of fans

It does if they're fat enough!

 

[Dark Helmet]

A few hundred fanboys on internet forums does not equal tons of fans

Hey Internet Fourm fan boys saved Nathan didn't they ?