The Rise of Skywalker Colin Trevorrow No Longer Directing Star Wars Episode IX

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I don't like how Ben's story ends in this script either. :funny: I do like that Hux features more.

I still think Trevorrow is an awful director and I'm not sure this would've been better than TROS.
 
I don’t know if I agree with him being an awful director but he definitely isn’t a great writer. And frankly this script isn’t that much better than Abrams/Terrio’s script.
 
Adam Chitwood: "while fans were curious as to the veracity of the whole thing, sources familiar with Trevorrow’s script confirm to Collider that the plot details revealed in Burnett’s video line up with what was in that particular draft." (January 14, 2020)

Chris Evangelista: "But /Film can confirm that this leak, and all of the details that come with it, are indeed legit." (January 15, 2020)
 
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Trevorrow’s script doesn’t sound bad to be honest. Liked how much it featured Luke and how he served as a haunting presence to Kylo

Also liked that General Hux got more to do and was redeemed after being treated like a total joke in TLJ
 
Honestly Trevorrows version sounds better than what we got with TROS for me. The ancient sith is a bit convenient, but it would have been better than the Emporer coming back in the opening crawl. Preferred what happened with Finn, Rose, Rey, Luke and Kylo in Trevorrows version as well.
 
Well, I like that the Knights of Ren get more to do in the final draft. Sollony Ren sounded like she could have been an intriguing antagonist.
 
I think it reads like a good sequel to Last Jedi but frankly I just don’t think this would work as a conclusion to the nine film Skywalker saga.
 
I like bits and pieces of this script, but overall Rise of Skywalker was enjoyable. This just seems like an even bigger mess than Last Jedi. At least TROS tried to tie up lose ends. This sounds like a convoluted fan fiction
 
Union rules. The original writers always get precedent. Its very common for writers to get credit on a movie that they had very little to do with.

I get the union rules.

But in case of TROS, wouldn't a "screen story" credit be more accurate? "Story by" implies Abrams & Terrio used the basic framework established by Trevorrow & Connolly, and outside of maybe one or two things, it's completely different.
 
I like bits and pieces of this script, but overall Rise of Skywalker was enjoyable. This just seems like an even bigger mess than Last Jedi. At least TROS tried to tie up lose ends. This sounds like a convoluted fan fiction

Convoluted fan fiction was called The Rise of Skywalker
 
Union rules. The original writers always get precedent. Its very common for writers to get credit on a movie that they had very little to do with.
Yes. One example you could point to is on Avengers; thanks to Union rules Zak Penn still got screenplay credit much to the chagrin of Joss Whedon(who did a page one rewrite of the script). However, I do believe in this case elements from Colin’s version(specifically his final draft) did make into the final film: Like Han Solo(as a hallucination) confronting Ren, Rey shooting lighting from her finger tips, hints of Finn being force sensitive, etc.
 
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This doesn't seem better than what we got. It sounds like both of these scripts were having to deal with the mess left behind by TLJ.

This whole trilogy was doomed from the start because it had no one at the top with a clear vision of what it was supposed to be.

What mess? Kylo being the Supreme Leader of the First Order? Rey being a Jedi, knowing her origin, and her worth not being based on some dynastic bloodline? Rey knowing exactly where Kylo stands and his true motivations? Luke being at peace and one with the Force? The First Order kicking the Resistance's ass? Finn realizing he needs to do more than just die for the Resistance? Poe being a better more thoughtful leader than he was at the beginning? Force sensitive children and others being inspired by Luke?

Theres nothing messy about where TLJ left things. TLJ set the board for a straightforward climax for this trilogy. Light vs dark. Rey vs Kylo. The Rebellion (more of an underdog than ever before) vs First Order. And even set up the actual return of the Jedi.

JJ and Terrio are fully responsible for the mess of ROS. The many awful elements of ROS werent seeded in TLJ nor were they at all necessary because of anything TLJ did.
 
Literally everything about the Trevorrow draft sounds better. Right out the gate it does three things right that The Rise of Skywalker massively bungled: Rey is still from nowhere, Kylo is beyond hope, and there's no Palpatine.

God. Damnit.
 
Rian Johnson himself said to Vanity Fair that he made a mess. Deliberately.

vanityfairmagazine said:
Biggest surprise to me is how much creative leeway Lucasfilm is giving Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow to write their films and make up plot and characters from scratch. I had presumed (wrongly) that JJ Abrams and Larry Kasdan might have sketched out an arc for the entirety of the current trilogy. But as Rian Johnson told me, it really was a creative handoff—“Over to you, Rian.” And Rian is handing off to Colin Trevorrow in the same way. He said he's made a mess that Colin will somehow have to clean up. (quote archive)
 
When he said he made a “mess” he’s likely being facetious and what he really means is that Last Jedi leaves the SW story in a direction where the status quo is now in uncharted, unpredictable, and unfamiliar territory free from repeating any narrative beats from the past; which would be an interesting challenge for the next director to follow(in a good way). Johnson is trying to underscore just how much his movie fundamentally alters the direction of what many assumed the story was going in, in favor of a fresh new direction that we’ve never seen before.

Snoke is dead, but Kylo Ren is now the Supreme Leader and Resistance numbers have shrunken, and the Galaxy once again was inspired by the myth or legend of Luke Skywalker. These were interesting plot lines that Last Jedi left for its sequel and had they been properly followed up on would’ve made for a film that didn’t feel like a rehash like the final film did of ROTJ.
 
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Literally everything about the Trevorrow draft sounds better. Right out the gate it does three things right that The Rise of Skywalker massively bungled: Rey is still from nowhere, Kylo is beyond hope, and there's no Palpatine.

God. Damnit.

Eh, the Kylo thing sounds pretty bad. He’s evil for 99% of the script until a last minute pep talk from Leia convinces him to give up his life for Rey, that seems like a really poor concept. There’s a “redemption” in every version of IX by the sounds of it, and this was the most half-assed imo.
 
I’ll say this, it doesn’t sound great but I think it sounds ok, but it sounds like a sequel to TLJ, something TRoS did not feel like. Whether that’s good or bad is for you to decide, but I think it’s have made the trilogy feel slightly more coherent.
 
I'm actually watching the video breakdown right now, and holy ****, this could've been soooo good. I really don't like Jurassic World and I was not excited about Treverrow being attached to Star Wars. Maybe he'd have pulled it off, maybe he'd have whiffed the execution. But as a blueprint? This is so much more my speed than what we got. At least as beat by beat story, he's nailing it. Now, back to the video...
 
I still don't think it works as a collective whole.
 
Well, Trevorrow views balance like any logical person should, which means a combination of light and dark, which exists within every person. We can be friends.
 
Colin's script sounds like it continued from TLJ, as it should have, instead of back peddling and trying to cram as many homages in as possible. I love that Rey is still a nobody, Ren isn't redeemed, Palpatine doesn't show up, and Luke has a larger presence. TROS really dropped the ball by intentionally trying to avoid any challenging material. Instead, it opted to spoon feed the audience a premature culmination where everybody lives happily ever after. Even Colin seemed to understand that where TLJ ended, the First Order had all but destroyed the Resistance many, if the next film takes place a year later, the First Order would be dominating the galaxy. We didn't see any of that and it was implied that somehow, the First Order was in a weaker position since they said they needed Palpatine's fleet in TROS.

It's funny, I hated Jurassic World, but Colin sounded like he knew where to end this saga more than JJ. If anything, this should serve as a lesson for JJ to never make a sequel within the same franchise. He messed up with Into Darkness and now he's messed up here.
 
Rian Johnson himself said to Vanity Fair that he made a mess. Deliberately.

Then he certainly stayed true to his word. I don’t dislike the guy personally and think he is very talented. But TLJ is one of my most hated movies ever and has done something I never thought possible, it’s made me totally ‘meh’ on Star Wars now.

I just hope he never gets his hands on established characters ever again.
 
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