The Rise of Skywalker Colin Trevorrow No Longer Directing Star Wars Episode IX

[DarthSkywalker]

He might be wrong or misinformed, but maybe he was speaking from experience? Let's not forget that Ava DuVernay was offered the job of Black Panther, but she turned it down.

To be perfectly honest, there's nothing salacious about that quote you threw above. Wrong-headed and misinformed maybe, but hardly salacious and a way to target him as "dude is sexist and hates women." I think Trevorrow has made it pretty clear from his views that he's a liberal Democrat voting type.

Well one director turned down a movie, I guess that means all female director's want no part. Who made Wonder Woman again? He can be a liberal Democrat. What does that had to do with his poor treatment of women in films, and in some cases outright disdain for them?

He hasn't done it once, he hasn't done it twice, he is has done it no less then 4 times.

Your inability to refute and instead to deflect and attempt to avoid says it all really. You said there wasn't a peep when JW came out and yet you were clearly wrong. Then Book of Henry, the movie where a mother can't even get dressed without her genius son helping her happened.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well one director turned down a movie, I guess that means all female director's want no part. Who made Wonder Woman again? He can be a liberal Democrat. What does that had to do with his poor treatment of women in films, and in some cases outright disdain for them?

You'd have to be more specific because I'm not getting this argument of poor treatment in disdain? I thought the high heels in Jurassic World were dumber than a post, but to call it over disdain for women is extreme.

He hasn't done it once, he hasn't done it twice, he is has done it no less then 4 times.

Your inability to refute and instead to deflect and attempt to avoid says it all really. You said there wasn't a peep when JW came out and yet you were clearly wrong. Then Book of Henry, the movie where a mother can't even get dressed without her genius son helping her happened.

I haven't seen Book of Henry, so I have no idea what you are referring to. However, your interpretation of that scene doesn't necessarily mean he hates or has disdain for women either.

People have said the same thing about David Lynch when it's not true at all, so forgive me if I'm not so quick to assign labels such as that on a filmmaker.

 

[Infinity9999x]

A year ago I would have been overjoyed about this. But now... I just don't know anymore. If Colin Trevorrow was too edgy and subversive then call me more baffled than when Lord and Miller were let go.

At this point I just don't think Lucasfilm knows what they want. I've criticized them for having safe intentions, but maybe that's just a result of them being afraid of their results from poor decision making. Just get Rian Johnson and call it a day.

It just makes Johnson all the more baffling to me. I'm really curious what TLJ is. How in the hell did team player Trevorrow have creative difference over Rian Johnson? It's just weird that Kennedy was so happy with TLJ. No problems whatsoever from both sides. There was even trouble with Abrams. This is either a great thing or a bad thing. It's just too hard to tell at this point in time. I'm looking forward to it, but skeptical given all this other stuff. Is this the exception or is this a culmination of what they've been trying to hit with the others but couldn't? A great movie that's different when it needs to be but still doesn't go too far. We'll just have to wait and see. This movie is going to be the thing to tell what Disney truly wants out of SW. It's gonna be fascinating to analyze either way.

As much as I've had my problems with these movies, I never expected Lucasfilm to be a mess. Which is surprising given it's Kennedy. You can't make this up.

The other option we haven't really thought about, and a much simpler one than these articles and such are bandying about:

Lucasfilm simply really, really liked Johnson and they wanted him for the next film, but already had a director. So they decided to let the other director go. If Johnson gets the next film, I wouldn't be surprised if that was real reason this was happening.

 

[Iceman]

The other option we haven't really thought about, and a much simpler one than these articles and such are bandying about:

Lucasfilm simply really, really liked Johnson and they wanted him for the next film, but already had a director. So they decided to let the other director go. If Johnson gets the next film, I wouldn't be surprised if that was real reason this was happening.

Good call. Even if not the full reason that could certainly be a contributory factor and funny that we haven't mentioned it yet as a possibility.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah but hiring Trevorrow meant already that maybe Johnson was already not set on doing a third.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The other option we haven't really thought about, and a much simpler one than these articles and such are bandying about:

Lucasfilm simply really, really liked Johnson and they wanted him for the next film, but already had a director. So they decided to let the other director go. If Johnson gets the next film, I wouldn't be surprised if that was real reason this was happening.

Crazier things have happened, but I agree with Vile. Trevorrow was known for being very much a team player on JW. I remember everybody praising his collaborative nature and him praising the collaboration with the producers. The man has such a strong relationship with Kennedy, Marshal, and Spielberg. It's part of why he got both gigs. They knew exactly what they were doing. And the movie turned out exactly how he wanted to make it. It's probably one of best definitions of a studio team player movie in recent memory. I'm sure that's one of the huge reasons he was hired. And he's suddenly being the one who isn't? That's laughable. For these SW movies? It's similar to Ron Howard. Trevorrow in interviews, even on Twitter is pretty much the calmest and most measured guy. I can't imagine how he of all people was too edgy and subversive and "outspoken" (a silly criticism for a director) for Lucasfilm. Something smells funny. And at this point to keep pointing at the filmmakers as the disagreeable ones in a negative way is not admitting there's a recurring problem with the running of the ship. I think with all of this, people are always giving the benefit of the doubt to Lucasfilm. Seems like an emperor wears no clothes thing to me. Maybe the filmmakers were disagreeable because they just don't agree with Disney's idea of SW. It's one or the other, is it so hard to believe that *gasp* Lucasfilm isn't running SW properly?

 

[jmc]

Well, when you look at what films Kennedy has been involved in, I think her understanding of what makes a good movie is a bit stronger than Treverrow's. I am sad that her grand experiment with up and coming directors doesn't seem to be working out, but she takes her custody of Star Wars damn seriously. And really, it has paid off.

The flip side to that is that maybe there's indecision about SW because it is so big to begin with. When you have such a delicate grand you've got to be careful with it. There's clearly not a great deal of confidence being shown by Lucasfilm to its creative teams at the moment but maybe this issue isn't the creative teams, maybe it's Lucasfilm not really having a clear idea of how to handle the brand.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, a really badly received Star Wars film right now would mean a huge dent in future income IMO. This resurgence I think is based on a kind of trust from the GA that we are going to get at least half decent films going forward. Another Phantom Menace in an Episode film could take away a lot of goodwill that's been rebuilt. So they are going to be cautious when there are any signs that things might not be going totally to plan.

 

[Steyin]

I've been thinking about this, and I feel a big part of what went down is due to Fisher's passing. LF is in a Heath Ledger situation where a character was meant to have a big part in a 3rd film, and now they're scrambling to figure out what to do. Call me crazy, but just a gut feeling.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I've been thinking about this, and I feel a big part of what went down is due to Fisher's passing. LF is in a Heath Ledger situation where a character was meant to have a big part in a 3rd film, and now they're scrambling to figure out what to do. Call me crazy, but just a gut feeling.

I've considered that myself because didn't they say TFA was Han's movie, TLJ was Luke's film, and the third was supposed to be Fisher's flick?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

<image of Star Wars action figures>

We all have our own personal relationship with Star Wars. Hopefully we can talk about the characters we love without ridiculing others for loving them in a different way—or for different reasons.

https://***********/colintrevorrow/status/946332873589706752 (December 28, 2017)

True story: the DPG site is written by a team of JP fans who are now our creative partners. When I have questions about canon, they set me straight. The new trilogy is built for a new generation, but not at the expense of the fandom. Without them we’re nothing...

https://***********/colintrevorrow/status/960518175946403840 (February 5, 2018)

“I don't want to talk too much about it because I don't want to affect the way that fans get to see these films,” [Mr. Trevorrow] said. “When we were kids, these movies came to us from far away. They were a gift. And the more we talk about how they're made, the more it reveals that they're just movies. But they're not just movies, they're more than that. Beyond that, I got the opportunity to tell a story that is a celebration of everything I believe in, I got to tell it to George Lucas and I got to tell it to Luke Skywalker, and those are experiences I will cherish for the rest of my life.”

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/colin-trevorrow-talks-star-wars-episode-ix-exit/ (May 29, 2018) (quote archive)

My 9-year-old is in the next room editing his 2nd movie, BLOODSTINGER 2. He is aware of the potential hazards of a sequel, but promises the film will add depth and character without compromising the core tenets of a beloved franchise that has existed since April 2018.

https://***********/colintrevorrow/status/1001517034990178306 (May 29, 2018)

Please ask Nolan to consider me for a role in BLOODSTINGER 3.
That boy is a visionary genius & I value gifted directors.
All the best from his unemployed pal, mh

https://***********/hamillhimself/status/1001537978605293568 (May 29, 2018)

The boy is now locked in frantic rewrites, adjusting the mentor role to include an epic fight sequence. He is also penning a thoughtful letter to our neighbor, Blair, explaining why we “went another way” with the mentor role.

https://***********/colintrevorrow/status/1001795335331745792 (May 30, 2018)

 

[Flemm]

Man, I must say, this whole thing is hilarious. I'm more interested in following the meta snark, memes and arguments than I am in the movies at this stage.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

A possible reading in between the lines & shade:

Bloodstinger 2 = Star Wars: Episode VIII
Boy = Rian Johnson
Mentor = Luke
Rewrites = TLJ rewrites
Epic Fight Sequence = Luke and Kylo fighting it out at the end as a result of script rewrite
Letter = Rian Johnson's explanations for going a different way with the Luke character
Blair = Colin Trevorrow and/or the audience
We = Lucasfilm/Rian Johnson

 

[Man in the Suit]

Re: The Book of Henry

I've had enough of this dude.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No matter what happens, I am just happy he will never write Rey.

 

[Aximili86]

Even disregarding all the he-can't-write-women stuff, he just comes off as such a *****e in general.

 

[BatLobster]

Yes....yes he does.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

AV Club - Turns out Colin Trevorrow’s version of Star Wars: Episode IX was good, actually

While neither Disney nor Trevorrow have commented on the leak, we’ve spoken with another source who was able to independently confirm the legitimacy of the Trevorrow/Connolly script.

 

[mclay18]

I read the Reddit summary of Trevorrow's script... and it's puzzling how he & Derek Connolly got story credit on TROS when so little of it is used in Abrams & Terrio's script.

I wonder what was the thing(s) in the script that Kathleen Kennedy pushed against? Because this is unquestionably better than what TROS ended up being.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Whether Trevorrow the director could’ve pulled it off we’ll never know, but that script doesn’t seem that bad. I can see how it featured Leia too heavily and Ben not being redeemed is pretty ballsy, but it does sound better than what we got, and I liked RoS.

 

[TheVileOne]

A big red flag for the Trevorrow script, what is purported at least, is the Tor Vallum stuff.

How does the Emperor have a master that's still alive and willing to train Kylo Ren? What happens to Tor Vallum? Why would Palpatine want Skywalker taken to him if he was dead himself?

 

[thangaran]

Mixed opinions on the Trevorrow script but I would have liked to have seen him direct the movie for a different style altogether. Be different from Abrams and Rian. I think visually he’s a strong director but not necessarily the greatest script sense, which fits right in with how nonsensical this new trilogy has turned out. As it stands, I don’t ever want to see another SW film with Rey, Finn Master Shouter of “Rey” 10000 times over and jokey Poe (he was probably my favorite part of the last film along with Driver).

 

[jmc]

It sounds better, but the issue remains that there's still a clear lack of cohesiveness as a whole within the context of the trilogy.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Spoiler

Chris Taylor: "Personally, I find myself aligned with several Lucasfilm employees I spoke with at the Rise of Skywalker premiere, the ones who confessed that they'd been upset by Rey Palpatine for months." (December 20, 2019)

ThePlaylist.net- Colin Trevorrow’s ‘Star Wars’ Episode IX’ Was Called ‘Duel Of The Fates’ & Its Real

So, now, to the Reddit leak(which is basically the RMB video). The short version: they match the details of what insiders close to the projects told about the Trevorrow’s Episode IX screenplay a month ago. A second and third source has just now confirmed to us the script details are indeed real, including the confirmation of the title "Star Wars: Duel Of The Fates.”

Andy Signore: "Rob [Burnett] had access to the same script that I did... It's absolutely real." (January 14, 2020)

 

[VSG]

One of the best thing of TROS, and the Sequels, and even the Saga, is Rey and Ben connection but it doesnt have any importance in this guys scripts, lol. I dont like it.