Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

I vote Maestro, and Savage.

The rest I don't think are neccesary. Mr Fixit, Prof, War...
 
You all totally need to include the Eternals, Thomas Shepard, Adam Warlock (with the gem he's just as potent a force as the Silver Surfer), Temugin (the Mandarin's son), the Ghost (Iron Man villain), and some 2099 characters. :up:
 
Eh, sure he's had his high showings, but so have a lot of characters. And like other characters, Strange has had his low showings too. If you're going to get rid of him just because of his high showings then Surfer should go as well since his high showings would put him up there with Thanos, who is already voted Too Uber.
 
I agree with JB. Strange isn't always that powerful. Thanos is too uber because he's always having high showings. He's almost never down (except against Spidey and Squirrel Girl). But all the characters we keep in can go above what they normally do and push the next level up (which for ubers like Strange, is the tuber level).
 
You can argue all you want that he has bad showings, but he damn well came close to winning the whole thing last year, which backs up my point. And he only lost (just bareful) to a foe who was even immune to mystical attacks. If that doesn't show how dangerous he is than I am not sure what does.

As for SS, if it's a real problem with him than maybe we should drop him too. The only reason he could be in it anyways is that he comes with his passivity, diplomatic nature and high value of life. If that's taken from him than he would probably be too dangerous for the tournament.
 
Ok, if there is any question as to how uber a character is, maybe we should (for now) move them to the potential list.
 
With an initial look, I see Quasar, Silver Surfer and Morg should probably moved to Potential. Any others?
 
Final vote

Keep
Abomination
Doctor Sampson
Savage Hulk
Iron Clad (U-Foes)
Leader
Maestro
Mr. Hyde
Speed Freak
Super Adaptoid
Vaper (U-Foes)
Vector (U-Foes)
Wendigo
X-Ray (U-Foes)
Zzzax

Drop
Wood God
General Ryker

Potentials
Armageddon
Bi-Beast
Boomerang
Half Life
Madman
Mercy
Ravage
 
POWdER-man said:
You can argue all you want that he has bad showings, but he damn well came close to winning the whole thing last year, which backs up my point. And he only lost (just bareful) to a foe who was even immune to mystical attacks. If that doesn't show how dangerous he is than I am not sure what does.

As for SS, if it's a real problem with him than maybe we should drop him too. The only reason he could be in it anyways is that he comes with his passivity, diplomatic nature and high value of life. If that's taken from him than he would probably be too dangerous for the tournament.
So he made it to the final four. Doesn't mean he should be banned because of being powerful. Same goes for Desak. Just because he made it to the finals doesn't mean he's Too Uber for this thing.
Back to Strange, there's plenty of powerful people in this thing who could take him down with some intelligent fighting (Surfer, Drax, Hulk, Maestro, any Herald, Eternals if they're allowed, Kang, Doom, etc). Even some lower powered characters could take him down in the right setting and with the right plan. He is only human after all. Given the right character in the right setting with the right strategy and tools, you could take him down pretty quickly (like when Moondragon put him down). Deathstrike Vs Kang and Xavier Vs Thanos from last season come to mind when thinking of lop-sided matches, powerwise, in which the weaker character almost won thanks to a good strategy (though they didn't win they still gave it a hell of a run, and Chuckles damn near pulled out the W. In fact he came the closest to beating Thanos than anyone else in the tourny).

As for Surfer only being allowed in due to his passive nature...Strange may not be passive like Norrin, but he's not some evil bastard who will be going all out to kill his opponent from the get go. Just like Surfer, his goodly personality can be exploited if one plays it smart.
 
Phaedrus45 said:
With an initial look, I see Quasar, Silver Surfer and Morg should probably moved to Potential. Any others?

Those would be the top three. I don't think it has to go further but Terrax and Firelord would be the next in line.
 
Hulk

Keep:



Abomination
Doctor Sampson
Incredible Hulk (Savage)
Iron Clad (U-Foes)
Leader
Maestro
Mr. Hyde
Speed Freak
Super Adaptoid
Vaper (U-Foes)
Vector (U-Foes)
Wendigo
X-Ray (U-Foes)
Zzzax

Drop:

General Ryker
Wood God

Potential:

Amphibion
Armagedon
Bi-Beast
Boomerang
The Glob
Half-Life
Harpy
Madman
Mercy
Mr. Fixit
Ravage
 
Moving on, I just kept what you had voted JH. If it's changed let me know.

HULK

Keep
115.Abomination
116.Doctor Sampson
117.Incredible Hulk (Savage)
118.Iron Clad (U-Foes)
119.Leader
120.Maestro
121.Mr. Hyde
122.Speed Freak
123.Super Adaptoid
124.Vaper (U-Foes)
125.Vector (U-Foes)
126.Wendigo
127.X-Ray (U-Foes)
128.Zzzax

Drop
31.Wood God
32.General Ryker

Potentials
36.Armageddon
37.Bi-Beast
38.Boomerang
39.Half Life
40.Madman
41.Mercy
42.Mr. Fixit
43.Ravage
 
Marvel Knights

Black Widow
Bullseye
Daredevil
Elektra
Jigsaw
Kingpin
Nick Fury
Owl
Punisher
Shang-Chi
Sharon Carter
Stilt Man
Typhoid Mary
Zaran the Weapons Master

Automatic Drop

Howard the Duck
 
Keep
Black Widow
Bullseye
Daredevil
Elektra
Kingpin
Nick Fury
Owl
Punisher
Shang-Chi
Typhoid Mary
Zaran the Weapons Master

Drop
Howard the Duck
Jigsaw
Sharon Carter
Stilt Man
 
Marvel Knights

Keep:

Black Widow
Bullseye
Daredevil
Elektra
Kingpin
Nick Fury
Owl
Punisher
Shang-Chi
Stilt Man
Typhoid Mary
Zaran the Weapons Master

Drop:


Howard the Duck
Jigsaw
Sharon Carter

Potential:

Man-Thing
Gladiator II
Purple Man
Werewolf By Night
Fu Manchu
 
I was reading some comics from my Chronological X-Men Disks, and found out how beatable The Hulk really is:

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Yep, in Dazzler #7, Allison beat The Hulk. Who knew?
 
Here I am bored at work, and I decided to look at various different threads...and I pushed the "View" and "Replies" categories. The original Contest of Marvels Discussion Thread is still 12th in Viewings and 6th in Replies. And, if you factored in the already removed 4 Threads that the actual battles went in, we'd probably be second only to Sparta's original Marvel Tournament Thread. (He totally kicks butt in both those categories, especially in views!)

Already, this discussion thread is moving up fast. I'm really starting to get psyched about Season II....especially seeing some of the potential fighters we'll have a chance to get. (Now, if I get Dazzler for some strange reason, I'll be dying to face Hulk in Round 1!)
 

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