Dexter - Part 5

[The Demon's Head]

Karen Campell, who wrote the latest episode- "This is the best season of Dexter and all the fans are loving it."

 

[Deserana]

uh..buhuhhuh *cough* buwu *splutter* hahaha! WHAT?

 

[Teelie]

Wonder which drug she's been taking to believe that.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Meh, I still think it's the same with Season 5. Both were weak in their own way. Season 6 had a good start and it had interesting material for them to work with, but they kinda fail to do it properly.


Yeah mate, I'm totally insane! Better be careful, there's no telling what I might do if we meet! Looks like having a different opinions equals being insane these days, didn't knew so thanks for the heads up

& good for you.

I think you took me a bit too literally. I don't think you are truly insane.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I think both Dexter & BB are similar in that it (to me) was the evolution of a bad or good character to evolve into a good or bad character.

The writers of Dexter have done it horrible from Bad to good, or from bad to worse. BB going from good to bad is much, much better.

There are basic fundamental rules of writing a story that Dexter just isn't following.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Karen Campell, who wrote the latest episode- "This is the best season of Dexter and all the fans are loving it."

Bath Salts a hell of a drug....

 

[Paradox1]

Right, but the amount of seasons doesn't really matter. Is the way the story unfolded. Breaking Bad seems more contained, like a single storyline. Dexter is more chapter-oriented. Maybe that's one of the reasons why BB's ending seems more powerful.

The amount of seasons is instrumental to the storylines that were floating around at that time. At the close of season four Rita is killed by Trinity which is probably at Dexter's peak of it's storytelling. There would of been so much material to work with. They could of focused the best storylines over the past 4yrs into one glorius season of death and murder.

 

[Deserana]

I'm in the UK so not really aware of US schedules. Is this on tonight?

 

[Teelie]

Should be barring any strange unforseen circumstances.

 

[RoboAmish]

I'm not American either but, apparently, it is taking the week off. Official reason seems to be for Labor Day Weekend?

 

[Compi716]

Karen Campell, who wrote the latest episode- "This is the best season of Dexter and all the fans are loving it."

Where did she say this? I'd love to know what sort of bubble she lives in.

 

[Teelie]

I'm not American either but, apparently, it is taking the week off. Official reason seems to be for Labor Day Weekend?

Oh right, forgot they are taking off tonight for tomorrow, although not sure why. If it aired on Monday then I could understand that, but tonight?

 

[Reek]

not real sure why its taking the week off... sure its Labor day weekend, but other shows aren't taking off. and I'll be spending my extra night sitting on my couch

 

[BatLobster]

I think both Dexter & BB are similar in that it (to me) was the evolution of a bad or good character to evolve into a good or bad character.

The writers of Dexter have done it horrible from Bad to good, or from bad to worse. BB going from good to bad is much, much better.

There are basic fundamental rules of writing a story that Dexter just isn't following.

Wait, what?

It's a fundamental rule of writing that a character can only progress from good to bad but not from bad to good?

Forget the execution part of it, obviously BB is a better show, I just want to be clear on what you're saying here. I mean the whole point of Dexter is that he's a serial killer you route for, kind of superhero vigilante-esque. A Breaking Bad is just a straight up tragedy about a man who starts with good intentions and ends up on the road to hell. They're very different.

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

uh..buhuhhuh *cough* buwu *splutter* hahaha! WHAT?

It's not like she's gonna say "This is the WORST Dexter season, WE FAILED MISERABLY!!! The fans hate it!"

Even if I don't believe it's bad or that bad, but just saying, no matter how bad it really is, you won't hear sg like that. Not to mention she was probably trying to hype things a bit... And if this wasn't the last season of Dexter, I'd probably like it even less to be honest, but I'm more interested in the characters and how it ends for them. Dexter is no longer @ Season 1 quality, for quite a while now...

 

[Deserana]

I'll just switch my TV off for an hour. Probably get just as much story development as the past 9 episodes

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

Forget the execution part of it, obviously BB is a better show, I just want to be clear on what you're saying here. I mean the whole point of Dexter is that he's a serial killer you route for, kind of superhero vigilante-esque. A Breaking Bad is just a straight up tragedy about a man who starts with good intentions and ends up on the road to hell. They're very different.

Which is why I don't get these weird comparisons.

 

[BatLobster]

Scott Reynolds responded to a tweet about the fan reaction.

Blackout2.0 ‏@BadMediaKarma 28 Aug
@jscottamy There is a mixed reception about season 8 of #Dexter , some fans are not too pleased about the writing etc , your thoughts ?
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Scott Reynolds ‏@jscottamy 28 Aug
@BadMediaKarma I'm proud of where we go this season. I think of the eight seasons like a novel. Things connect and reflect with purpose.

 

[Deserana]

I don't think anybody is comparing plot points or characters. They are (including me) talking about two shows that are on their final seasons and how they are dealing with them. One took the route of escalating and escalating each episode with pretty much at least one big revelation per episode, while the other IMO has been incredibly slow and downright disappointing and has progressed with almost no urgency at all.

I don't think I've been on the edge of my seat once this season which I was for 5, 6 and 7 for at least parts of them.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

Thank you, someone gets it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Forget the execution part of it, obviously BB is a better show, I just want to be clear on what you're saying here. I mean the whole point of Dexter is that he's a serial killer you route for, kind of superhero vigilante-esque. A Breaking Bad is just a straight up tragedy about a man who starts with good intentions and ends up on the road to hell. They're very different.

I disagree with this actually. Some fans take it that way, I think, but I don't think this is ever what the show has actually gone for.

 

[Liam_H]

But the way they write Dexter seems if he takes almost no blame for his actions or that the consequences hardly last. After the death of Rita, he doesn't have to take care of the kids except Harrison who he just dumps on Jaime whenever he needs to. Or after how he has compromised Debra, she goes back to forgiving him and relenting to whatever he wants. Its like Dexter always gets what he wants/needs.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't think that's the same thing. It's convenient for him to do what he does, sure, but does that mean we're suppose to route for him as some kind of hero just because of that? I personally don't think so. If anything, I think that Dexter's constant struggle with his dark side as he becomes more and more humanized voids that idea. Personally, I think the show has always done a good job of painting what Dexter does as very gray and undefined as good or bad.

 

[DyeLorean]

If the point of the show is to say "hey, here's a serial killer who actually has feelings and, you know, he has killed directly and indirectly a couple of innocent people, but he's actually a superhero and a very nice guy! Instead of raising his son, he's out there killing people, but is alright!", that's a terribly flawed concept.

 

[Liam_H]

I don't think that's the same thing. It's convenient for him to do what he does, sure, but does that mean we're suppose to route for him as some kind of hero just because of that? I personally don't think so. If anything, I think that Dexter's constant struggle with his dark side as he becomes more and more humanized voids that idea. Personally, I think the show has always done a good job of painting what Dexter does as very gray and undefined as good or bad.

I meant hero in the sense that whatever actions he takes its painted as good, it feels like there is no consequences for it. The death of Rita or forcing Deb to kill an innocent etc.

If Dexter is supposed to become more and more humanized over the series then by now shouldn't we be seeing him struggle to take a life. Cause you can't have him have the 'urge to kill' while also being 'more human'.

As of now I just don't sympathize with him, he just comes off as a d**k. With the way it seems they're going its gonna be Dex/Hannah happily ever after