Doctor Strange Casting Poll **NEW** - Part 1

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I don't get the fears personally.

If you want a guy that falls in line but has acting chops, then it's not Phoenix. He's a brilliant actor, but he's not the type to fall in line under some fresh faced director and studio authority.

There is an inherit risk to a guy like Phoenix for a studio that's building success on locking guys into 6-9 picture deals.

Didn't that piece quote sources as saying the deal was at the one yard line? Perhaps that's what he meant by calming your fears. The long term commitment seems to be the hang up, yet both parties are still at the table a month after the rumors broke at comic con.

Even if he signs, there will still be fear for some us MCU fans.

He doesn't have near the baggage the RDJ had. How'd that work out? If a talent like Phoenix is interested and appears to be a fit for the role, you try to make it happen. Simple as that.

This isn't about baggage - this is about long term commitments and the overall picture that is the MCU.

Exactly, RDJ had way, way, way more baggage.

See above.
 
Hey, it's not like I'm campaigning against the guy.
I think he's fine and if he's cast I wont be complaining about it.

I just prefer a new kid to get the chance to shine.

No problem with that. I know nothing about Huston though. As stated numerous times in this thread, MS want's Strange to be the new IM moving forward. Given that fact are they willing to take a flyer on a young up-and-comer over a great and established actor who wants to tango? This seems like a natural fit to their plan. Hope it happens.
 
I love how all this Phoenix concerns comes with no real credibility. Forget about his mockumentary and the beard. He has never had any problems with directors or his co-stars. Only on here can we put into question the man's caliber. But I'm not surprised, they did the same thing to Heath.

The old Iron Man threads are still on here....funny to see the same concerns about RDJ.
 
Yeah Edward Norton was always an egotistical ******* whom wants to take over his movies but where are all the stories about Phoenix? When hasn't he been professional?
 
If you want a guy that falls in line but has acting chops, then it's not Phoenix. He's a brilliant actor, but he's not the type to fall in line under some fresh faced director and studio authority.

There is an inherit risk to a guy like Phoenix for a studio that's building success on locking guys into 6-9 picture deals.

Even if he signs, there will still be fear for some us MCU fans.

This isn't about baggage - this is about long term commitments and the overall picture that is the MCU.

Well all these issues are what we assume are being worked out in negotiations. I'm sure Phoenix has contacted RDJ, Evans, etc in terms of what to expect and to get an overall picture of the experience. The fact that the two parties are still at the table (according to reports) should tell you that Marvel doesn't see anything too worrisome at this point regarding his artistic sensibilities. He signs or he doesn't. I don't think he signs a 6-9 picture deal though. Possibly 3-4 and then go from there.
 
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Yeah Edward Norton was always an egotistical ******* whom wants to take over his movies but where are all the stories about Phoenix? When hasn't he been professional?

I've heard nothing too bad. The Mocumentary? Big deal. Maybe it's the wild beard he had.....I've got one just like it and people give me a double look at times. Sometimes I even have fun with it and play to the bourgeois expectations. The worst or most bizzare story surrounding Phoenix that I can think of is when his car flipped over in the Hollywood Hills and Werner Herzog pulled him out of the wreckage.
 
I love how all this Phoenix concerns comes with no real credibility. Forget about his mockumentary and the beard. He has never had any problems with directors or his co-stars. Only on here can we put into question the man's caliber. But I'm not surprised, they did the same thing to Heath.

The old Iron Man threads are still on here....funny to see the same concerns about RDJ.

Again, the guy can act. And no he's never had issues, but he's generally been a guy working under guys like PTA, Scott, Jonze. Working int he studio game under someone like Derrickson would be a different bag of tea. I wasn't around for the RDJ/Heath stuff, but I can't understand the Heath concerns because he's a guy who was a studio dream -- a young fresh-faced "heart throb". He had worked with very little in terms of authoritative directors. Lee and Emmerich are the biggest names I can think of, and he had come from a movie like 10 Things.

Regardless, the point stands. If the idea is to have Strange be the new "Stark" -- the charismatic leader/face of the MCU -- once RDJ is gone. This does come with some risk of a guy who may commit and go "nah, not my thing." He could sign a 20 movie deal and still only do 1. Look at what happened with Weaving -- he's basically said that despite his contract they'd have to force him back.

Phoenix brings those doubts to mind, whereas casting someone who's done the studio thing or is a younger more impressionable up-and-comer who a studio can get excited about the "future of film" maybe brings less doubt, whether founded or not.

Well all these issues are what we assume are being worked out in negotiations. I'm sure Phoenix has contacted RDJ, Evans, etc in terms of what to expect and to get an overall picture of the experience. The fact that the two parties are still at the table (according to reports) should tell you that Marvel doesn't see anything too worrisome at this point regarding his artistic sensibilities. He signs or he doesn't. I don't think he signs a 6-9 picture deal though. Possibly 3-4 and then go from there.

I'd love to see him as Strange, and I'd love to see him take the mantle. He'd be phenomenal, in my opinion. All I'm saying is there is a slight pinch that has to be going through the fans and studios minds when it comes to a guy like him.

Yeah Edward Norton was always an egotistical ******* whom wants to take over his movies but where are all the stories about Phoenix? When hasn't he been professional?

No one is saying he isn't professional -- and FWIW, Norton wanted to come back, and started negotiations to do so. He even met with Whedon and was said to have been extremely excited with what Joss wanted to do with Banner moving forward. It was apparently Joss and Kevin who decided to move on, with Joss preferring Ruffalo (who was Leterrier's first choice as well -- Feige apparently decided upon Norton).

What people worry about is the guy not liking studio obligations and the media scrutiny/questions that come with doing these Marvel films, as well as doing green screen work. McKellan broke down doing the Hobbit and having a piece in his ear in front of a green screen. I wonder about that with a guy like Phoenix too.
 
Norton wanted to come back and yet he wasn't in The Avengers, it's not hard to get that that's because he is difficult to work with.

And I know Phoenix isn't use to doing green screen work but he can get use to it, especially if he signs on the dotted line. I don't care about the media stuff, he doesn't have to act super happy go lucky to promote the film.
 
alot of people's attitudes change when $$$$$'s are up for discussion...
 
Norton wanted to come back and yet he wasn't in The Avengers, it's not hard to get that that's because he is difficult to work with.

And I know Phoenix isn't use to doing green screen work but he can get use to it, especially if he signs on the dotted line. I don't care about the media stuff, he doesn't have to act super happy go lucky to promote the film.

I understand Norton is hard to work with.. I never said he wasn't.

And yea, Phoenix very well could be completely fine with green screen and all that. But there is still likely a fear in some people's minds, that's all I'm saying.

I'd love to see him, and if he does sign, I'm gonna be hella excited. I'm not against the casting at all, I'm just saying that Marvel is taking a leap of faith with it that they haven't really taken since RDJ.
 
El Mayimbe says that Phoenix is out.

Lol this is exactly why I can't stand that bloated, attention-starved bag of hot air. Listening to El Mayimbe is always a poor choice
That being said, I'd love to see what Pheonix could do as Strange but the trepidations are understandable. These roles are a huge commitment, and I've read interviews from the other actors speaking about their hesitations before accepting the job and it's a lot to take on.
 
I understand Norton is hard to work with.. I never said he wasn't.

And yea, Phoenix very well could be completely fine with green screen and all that. But there is still likely a fear in some people's minds, that's all I'm saying.

I'd love to see him, and if he does sign, I'm gonna be hella excited. I'm not against the casting at all, I'm just saying that Marvel is taking a leap of faith with it that they haven't really taken since RDJ.
I want to get it straight that I've read your posts carefully and I know that you aren't against him getting the role, you are just worried he will bail on Marvel.

I could be wrong but I think if Phoenix signs on for multiple films that he will do them. The franchise could bring more attention to his smaller films afterall.
 
If Joaquin Phoenix want's to be in your movie. You damn well make sure you give him the role in that movie.
 
I've heard nothing too bad. The Mocumentary? Big deal. Maybe it's the wild beard he had.....I've got one just like it and people give me a double look at times. Sometimes I even have fun with it and play to the bourgeois expectations. The worst or most bizzare story surrounding Phoenix that I can think of is when his car flipped over in the Hollywood Hills and Werner Herzog pulled him out of the wreckage.

This is actually a quite fascinating story. I hope they get to work together one day. The Herzog was a big fan of The Master.
 
I like Phoenix, but I'm not convinced that he's the best actor for the role, and so much so that Marvel has to jump through hoops to get him. There are other quality actors like Cumberbatch and Hardy who I won't mind taking the mantle of Dr. Strange over Phoenix.

Cumberbatch is boring and I doubt Hardy is going to go back to comic book movies after The Dark Knight Rises.

Phoenix or Jack Huston are the only two people I see in the role. Phoenix, because he's an incredibly brilliant actor that loses himself in characters (I'm Still Here, The Master) and that's what Marvel looks for when they cast someone. Jack Huston would be a great choice for making someone's career. Especially since he has complete universal praise for his time on Boardwalk Empire. Jack Huston isn't quite at Chris Pratt levels of fame-before-Marvel, but he's recognition as both a face and a fantastic actor would really be life-changing for him.
 
You might also be able to tap into the 'film snob' community who don't watch CBM's who might now watch because Phoenix.
 
That's what casting Robert Redford and Glenn Close did.
 
Wait.


Someone just referred to Benedict Cumberbatch as boring.


I give the **** up. Can the internet just ****ing die already?
 
Wait.


Someone just referred to Benedict Cumberbatch as boring.


I give the **** up. Can the internet just ****ing die already?

I haven't seen enough of his work to care or be pissed off by that comment.

We shall see. :o
 
He's good as Sherlock, better in Tinker Tailor, everything else so far has been just ok
 
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