EVERYTHING Black Panther - Part 4

[SuperT]

E-Man - I totally feel your pain. It seems like such a slap in the face that they have Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in AoU, have GOTG coming out in August, Ant-Man next year AND a potential Doctor Strange movie. But Black Panther - oh no, the audience isn't ready for that.

Really?!

 

[Dr. Evil]

E-Man - I totally feel your pain. It seems like such a slap in the face that they have Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in AoU, have GOTG coming out in August, Ant-Man next year AND a potential Doctor Strange movie. But Black Panther - oh no, the audience isn't ready for that.

Really?!

The ball will get rolling on Black Panther if there is someone passionate enough to do the film like there is with Edgar Wright and James Gunn.

 

[SuperT]

Not to sound like Wright or Gunn wouldn't be good choices - but personally, I would really really like an African-American director for BP.

I'm not saying non-black directors or writers can't write Af-Am characters, but it would really behoove them to seek out some talent that could actually relate to the character. I'm hoping they do the same with the Luke Cage series as well.

 

[E-Man]

E-Man - I totally feel your pain. It seems like such a slap in the face that they have Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in AoU, have GOTG coming out in August, Ant-Man next year AND a potential Doctor Strange movie. But Black Panther - oh no, the audience isn't ready for that.

Really?!

It's like that meme going around about how DC is afraid of doing a Wonder Woman movie while Marvel doesn't care to do a movie with a talking raccoon. That's nice and all, but Marvel doesn't have any females or minorities leading movies yet. Blade is the only one, and that came out a long time ago. I am excited about Guardians, Doctor Strange, and Ant-Man to an extent, but why can't Black Panther get that same type of attention type of love?

The ball will get rolling on Black Panther if there is someone passionate enough to do the film like there is with Edgar Wright and James Gunn.

This is what I'm afraid of. Properties shouldn't have to have a director hounding a studio to get it done. There's a ton of potential with Black Panther that it shouldn't take just one director bothering the hell out of Marvel and Disney to do it. This is not to mention the amount of black actors coming out and saying that they would love to do Black Panther, and Anthony Mackie recently talking about how he has bothered Marvel in the past to do a BP movie. The desire is there, but if we don't see Black Panther by the end of Phase 3 I'm going to have to start wondering if Marvel really wants to do a Black Panther movie.

 

[Dr. Evil]

That 2017 unnamed Marvel pic after Thor 3 and before Avengers 3 will either be a minority led film or a female led film.

 

[RockSP]

The ball will get rolling on Black Panther if there is someone passionate enough to do the film like there is with Edgar Wright and James Gunn.

Marvel execs chose Gunn to direct Guardians. It's not like the Edgar Wright situation at all.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Marvel execs chose Gunn to direct Guardians. It's not like the Edgar Wright situation at all.

Interesting. Did not know that.

 

[DrCosmic]

E-Man - I totally feel your pain. It seems like such a slap in the face that they have Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in AoU, have GOTG coming out in August, Ant-Man next year AND a potential Doctor Strange movie. But Black Panther - oh no, the audience isn't ready for that.

Really?!

For the record, I understand the anger. Hollywood's dramatic and increasing inability to make non-white male led films, being carried by Marvel Studios, who is sitting on some of the best black characters, that's really, really sad.

I don't think it's fair, I even think it's cruel, to accuse them of racial injustice when they share the actual difficulty of making a likeable isolationist country. They didn't have to share what the challenge is, that was incredibly brave and transparent of them. To reward that with bending their words to imply ill intent is about as negative a feedback for honesty as we can possibly provide.

We can hope for a James Gunn, but, if you had a great black hero character story, why would you turn around and give that to a big white-run production company that's going to have him play second fiddle to Captain America and Iron Man?

So while I hold out a little hope, just for the sake of my love for the character, it's very possible that the hole that Marvel has dug themselves in as far as handling BP they are simply unable to dig themselves out of. Marvel might just be incapable of doing Black Panther justice, at least, while still making money on him. Dwayne McDuffie said that we can't rely on the big companies to tell [black people's] stories. I think that may be true here. Marvel could do it if they made a huge focus on the character, but just giving him as much attention as any other? No, that won't cut it, not at all.

 

[DrCosmic]

That 2017 unnamed Marvel pic after Thor 3 and before Avengers 3 will either be a minority led film or a female led film.

Or it'll just be GOTG2

 

[Dr. Evil]

I think that Marvel Studios feels it's much easier to tell Luke Cage's story than Black Panther's story.

Also I sense that a female led superhero movie is a bigger priority than Black Panther. That should be one of the 2017 Movies. Whether it's Carol Danvers or Natasha Romanoff remains to be seen, although I think it'll be Danvers.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Or it'll just be GOTG2

Only if they work out Zoe Saldana's schedule. She's shooting the next three Avatar movies all in a row, and who knows how long those three films will take.

I hear that GOTG2 could also feature the Hulk.

 

[terry78]

Luke Cage is ironically not as threatning a black guy as T'Challa. Cage is a former thug, but he's also the hip and cool black American dude. BP rules a soverign nation that, while not evil would sit back and let the rest of us die off because we're not worthy to share their advancements.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I like CAGE. Really. But... I'd rather that the first black superhero to see a big budget treatment be BP. Sorry, but BP tell kids to imagine being genius Kings. Luke gives cover to the idea that prison is just another right of passage to black male youth. Something about that's been more and more unsettling to me as I've grown older.

 

[bubbadoom]

Not to sound like Wright or Gunn wouldn't be good choices - but personally, I would really really like an African-American director for BP.

I'm not saying non-black directors or writers can't write Af-Am characters, but it would really behoove them to seek out some talent that could actually relate to the character. I'm hoping they do the same with the Luke Cage series as well.

Of course you do realize that Black Panther is NOT an Af-Am character - so why would you insist on an Af-Am director?

I think Marvel will tap Steve McQueen for the job...

 

[ss3walkman]

I like CAGE. Really. But... I'd rather that the first black superhero to see a big budget treatment be BP. Sorry, but BP tell kids to imagine being genius Kings. Luke gives cover to the idea that prison is just another right of passage to black male youth. Something about that's been more and more unsettling to me as I've grown older.

Preach!

 

[Dr. Evil]

Of course you do realize that Black Panther is NOT an Af-Am character - so why would you insist on an Af-Am director?

I think Marvel will tap Steve McQueen for the job...

Only if McQueen wants to do a CBM. There's been no indication of that.

 

[bubbadoom]

I like CAGE. Really. But... I'd rather that the first black superhero to see a big budget treatment be BP. Sorry, but BP tell kids to imagine being genius Kings. Luke gives cover to the idea that prison is just another right of passage to black male youth. Something about that's been more and more unsettling to me as I've grown older.

I guess characters like Cage were just products of the Black-ploitation films of the 70's but this has always been my problem with them - the Panther's backstory was so much more uplifting...

 

[RockSP]

We don't have to worry about a Cage movie since he's getting a tv series.

 

[bubbadoom]

Only if McQueen wants to do a CBM. There's been no indication of that.

do we know if he's been asked...?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Isn't McQueen from the UK? So as Jonathon Twilight would say: "They don't have African-Americans in England."

 

[Dr. Evil]

We don't have to worry about a Cage movie since he's getting a tv series.

That's actually better than a movie because instead of 2 hours of one film with a sequel unlikely, it's 13 hours of his story. Plus he has history with Danny Rand and Jessica Jones, who will also have their own TV shows.

 

[Dr. Evil]

do we know if he's been asked...?

He has not been asked, I don't think. I do know that both of his two stars of "12 Years a Slave" Chiwetel Ejiofor and Lupita has expressed interest.

 

[Paradox1]

I like CAGE. Really. But... I'd rather that the first black superhero to see a big budget treatment be BP. Sorry, but BP tell kids to imagine being genius Kings. Luke gives cover to the idea that prison is just another right of passage to black male youth. Something about that's been more and more unsettling to me as I've grown older.

I don't even know how Blade got made before BP and I loved the Blade movies(at least the first two, the third sucked). I hate the comic character but which is my point. Blade is a D list hero who helped launch the whole comic book movie craze. While the first black superhero is still gathering dust on the shelf waiting for his opportunity.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Blade would be interesting to see, although he might be one of the harder ones to fit into the MCU.

 

[mace1]

DrCosmic mention Themyscira and Atlantis too but let me bring this up as well.
There are blacks there too so these are not all white nations.

As for Themyscira wonder woman sister was nubia,a black wonder woman and in one parallel universes most or all Themyscira is black and wonder woman is black.

Of course these superheroes and images will not never make to live action most likely,except maybe nubia.

Here are some of the comic images.Do anybody think these will make to live action or even animation?most likely not,except maybe nubia.


[FONT=Verdana, Arial] Nubia

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial][FONT=Verdana, Arial][FONT=Verdana, Arial]A black superman and supergirl,there is even a black captain marvel.
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DC Comics To Unveil A Black Superman

by Sergio

DC Comics has revealed that their upcoming Action Comic # 9 in the series will present for the first time a black Superman.

The stand alone comic, written by regular series writer Grant Morrison with art work by Gene Ha, takes place on a alternative Earth in which the superhero battles with a monster from a parallel world, a Superman surrogate known as Superdoom.


Anyone out there think this will raise the hackles of those people who got upset when Idris Elba played that Nordic god Heindall in that Thor movie last summer?


I hope it does.


http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/dc-comics-to-unveil-a-black-superman