EVERYTHING Black Panther - Part 4

[Paradox1]

Whaaaat? The movie would most certainly be about black people. The entire country of Wakanda blocked themselves off specifically because they didn't want to succumb to white colonialism and thrive on their own as an African country. The idea that his blackness isn't important to the character is crazy.

I'd preferably want an African-American director for this, but if it's a director that has handled African-American characters well before, I guess I could be fine with that. The crop of writers and directors Marvel has hired are all fine but they don't have a particularly good (or any at all) track record with female or minority characters.

It will have black people in it but it's not a black film like Glory, Rosewood, or 12 years a Slave. Where a black perspective is needed at the helm. This movie if it's ever made is going to be a marvel movie targeted at a broad audience.

 

[T"Challa]

My choices for director:

Joon-Bo Hong
Pete Travis
Ryan Coogler
Gareth Evans
Denzel Washington (just stop and think about it. he did great work with Antwone Fisher and great Debaters imo. He got some terrific performances out of the actors)

 

[Dr. Evil]

I've got a name...

How about Tate Taylor? He's already directed a black themed movie "The Help" and currently directs "Get on Up" which is out the same week as Guardians of the Galaxy.

 

[RockSP]

It will have black people in it but it's not a black film like Glory, Rosewood, or 12 years a Slave. Where a black perspective is needed at the helm. This movie if it's ever made is going to be a marvel movie targeted at a broad audience.

Glory doesn't fit your criteria.

 

[T"Challa]

I've got a name...

How about Tate Taylor? He's already directed a black themed movie "The Help" and currently directs "Get on Up" which is out the same week as Guardians of the Galaxy.

Not a bad choice but directing a 'black-themed' movie shouldnt be on Marvel's list of requirements for this. It should be someone who gets the character, the universe and has a pitch that is worthy of a global action blockbuster like most MCU movies.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Not a bad choice but directing a 'black-themed' movie shouldnt be on Marvel's list of requirements for this. It should be someone who gets the character, the universe and has a pitch that is worthy of a global action blockbuster like most MCU movies.

Sure, that's a must for the MCU, but the Black bloggers will throw a hissy fit if a black director and black writers aren't involved in making Black Panther. Having said that, I doubt Feige gives a darn what the black bloggers (especially Shadow and Act, who's bloggers always get upset when white filmmakers make black themed movies) say.

As for what I bolded, that's why I chose Don Cheadle as a darkhorse option to direct. He knows the universe plus I think Marvel may consider him behind the camera if the Miles Davis film he's currently directing gets major awards buzz and does very well.

 

[T"Challa]

If Neil Blomkamp could tone down his ham fisted political messages, he would easily be my number one choice for this

 

[SuperT]

I don't get why it's a big deal if people would be upset if, outside of actors, no African-Americans were involved in the writing or production. That would just seem really odd. The first African-American superhero for Marvel Studios and you have absolutely no African-American writers, directors, producers etc. on your creative team?

That wouldn't strike anyone else as very off putting?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Im still pulling for the Hughes bros to direct this

 

[MadVillainy]

I think Daniel Espinosa would be a good director

 

[Dr. Evil]

Im still pulling for the Hughes bros to direct this

They've split as a directing tandem recently.

 

[chamber-music]

Forest Whittaker might be a good choice as director.

I still find it crazy that he directed Katie Holmes romantic comedy First Daughter and Sandra Bullock Romantic tearjerker Hope Floats.

I don't get why it's a big deal if people would be upset if, outside of actors, no African-Americans were involved in the writing or production. That would just seem really odd. The first African-American superhero for Marvel Studios and you have absolutely no African-American writers, directors, producers etc. on your creative team?

That wouldn't strike anyone else as very off putting?

Not to be a *****e but Black Panther isn't African American he is African.

Their is no guarantee an African American will have a better grasp on making a film about a fictional African superhero monarch than a non-African American filmmaker.

Just because some is black it doesn't them an expert on the life of Africans in East Africa.

 

[T"Challa]

I don't get why it's a big deal if people would be upset if, outside of actors, no African-Americans were involved in the writing or production. That would just seem really odd. The first African-American superhero for Marvel Studios and you have absolutely no African-American writers, directors, producers etc. on your creative team?

That wouldn't strike anyone else as very off putting?

Not particularly. Simply because i don't believe Marvel would be purposely looking to alienate black people from the production process. Their job is to make the best Black panther movie possible and if the best scripts, production designs and director vision comes from people who are not black then so be it.Hell, some of the best Black Panther runs were written by white guys: Don Mcgregor, Kirby etc.

I just want the best talent available to bring this to life.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't get why it's a big deal if people would be upset if, outside of actors, no African-Americans were involved in the writing or production. That would just seem really odd. The first African-American superhero for Marvel Studios and you have absolutely no African-American writers, directors, producers etc. on your creative team?

That wouldn't strike anyone else as very off putting?

Because the black bloggers are sick and tired of white folks telling black stories. Watch, when the film is announced this weekend, the website Shadow and Act will want a black director and black writers involved in the making of the film. I am not black but I go to that website and a lot of their articles they express anger at white filmmakers telling black stories.

To me that's a bit narrow minded. I think as long as the writers and directors respect the African culture and yet at the same time find a way to appeal to general audiences, it doesn't matter their race. However, Marvel does need to do a better job of finding minority talent behind the camera as they do in front of the camera.

 

[Boom]

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Marvel pls

 

[chamber-music]

Ultimately what matters is making the best Black Panther movie they can make. While I'm sure there will be a little politics in the film like Iron Man and Captain America The Winter Soldier in the end it will be a summer blockbuster popcorn family flick.

 

[Dr. Evil]

There are two ways to make the film appeal to mainstream audiences without creating the character Everett Ross:

Him, we've talked about before:

But also this guy, but it may require his team:

 

[cph9fa]

I will accept nothing less than an actual Wakandan director and cast. Only they truly understand the plight of Wakandans!

(Sorry... I couldn't hold back a light attempt at humor; I hope that doesn't come across too harshly.)

 

[Paradox1]

Glory doesn't fit your criteria.

You are right that was directed by Robert Zwick. I'll substitute that for Boyz n The Hood or Menace to Society.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Whaaaat? The movie would most certainly be about black people.

The movie may star black people, but it would be no more about black people than Captain America: TFA was about white people. It's part of the reason why I asked what the sell of the movie would be. I want a Black Panther movie very strongly, but I do think that, if the only sell is "this movie has black people in it" it shouldn't be made. That suggests it lacks vision or really any coherent idea with what to do with itself. Marvel movies have avoided that for the most part. If you have a movie without vision, you end up with Green Lantern and I don't think anyone wants Black Panther to be the next Green Lantern (although, if T'Challa did get Green Lantern's ring, that might be awesome).

True. True. I wouldn't make them more advanced technologically at first myself. I would put all responsibility for Wakanda being uber in T'Challa's hands, as in the original appearances, not in centuries of technological superiority, as in recent versions of BP. Basically, mine would be... what happens when you give the scrappy natives laserbeams and hovercraft?

The only discomfort I have with all the credit going to the Black Panther is this: plenty of cultures have done well with a strong leader. The Zulu under Shaka is an obvious enough example. But there are only so many times you can have good leaders in a row before you get a bad leader. I'm fine with Wakanda not being more technologically advanced, but there has to be something attributable to Wakandan society to justify it as an effective state that has never been conquered. I think the technologically advanced Wakanda achieves the best of all. Its success is determined by the goals and priorities of society, which worked towards achieving a great society, rather than achieving material gain, conquest, etc. (although, admittedly, the vibranium doesn't hurt). At the same time, a lot of responsibility is placed on the Wakandan King. Fortunately, the society is one set up to help groom someone effective at handling that job.

 

[Six]

I think they will get a black director for this(and likewise I think they'll get a black showrunner for Luke Cage), just because its the safe thing to do.

 

[SuperT]

Because the black bloggers are sick and tired of white folks telling black stories.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not just black bloggers - it's probably a good chunk of black people period. Why is it that everyone else has been given a chance to tell our stories on the big screen except for the very people the movies are about?

And I'm not saying that Black Panther needs to be a "black movie" or whatever you want to label it, but it certainly needs to come from a different perspective than what Marvel has put out previously. Quite frankly, I don't think Marvel will take it as seriously as it should be taken.

 

[Cooty_Cat]

I'm all for power to the people. But getting a black director because he's black does not a good movie make. Imagine Spike Lee directing the Black Panther...

I say get someone who is interested in African culture and who can respect the content. It seems shallow to get a black director just because he's black.

 

[samsnee]

It will have black people in it but it's not a black film like Glory, Rosewood, or 12 years a Slave. Where a black perspective is needed at the helm. This movie if it's ever made is going to be a marvel movie targeted at a broad audience.

I agree with this. Unless the movie is dealing with specific African issues, a black director isn't mandatory. Heck, Neil Blomkamp made a sci-fi movie about Apartheid, and he's certainly not black.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Glory and The Color Purple were both made by white people and are both great movies about the black experience.

Heck, Django Unchained is a better black revenge story than Rosewood.