Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 21

[RAE072]

Oh boy. The possibility of a teh hacker villain in Domashev too.

Let me just get my "HACK THE PLANET" gifs ready now.

 

[Kelly]

Doom was never one to try to convince others about his feelings on reed or anyone or thing.. it was his own personal vendettas that he owned.

Blogs are for spreading awareness and opinions for others to read... thats sooooo not doom

Depends on what he is blogging about, could it be the atrocities in Eastern Europe? the poverty? genocide of his people?

Could be a blog of most anything.

 

[The Guard]

Doom was never one to try to convince others about his feelings on reed or anyone or thing.. it was his own personal vendettas that he owned.

Blogs are for spreading awareness and opinions for others to read... thats sooooo not doom

And, as with most modern terrorists, he's probably not going to try very hard to convince people of his point of view. Odds are he'll do something more along the lines of making threats and demanding things or else.

A blog can be for any purpose, really.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I think Domashev could possibly make a lot of sense if u look at him as being the exiled heir of a deposed rulership. He would be a child when this happened, sent to the US, maybe a trust fund set up for him, and raised by handlers of his father's regime.

he grows up here but it's always beaten into his head that he is something special, he is the only legitimate heir to Latveria. which is being ruled by a US puppet democracy. even the people of Latveria see things as being worse now and there is romanticism for the old ways.

Doom's blog, hack thing is a pro-independent Latveria, and he is taken to be the voice of this heir in exile. runs this under the handle, D00m or Doom or whatever.

there is nothing about this that is counter to the essential character of Doctor Doom. if u look at this as like origin story, it makes lots of sense that he be in the place that he is.

once whatever accident happens, he suddenly either has or has access to way more power than he previously imagined, and he is able to retake the country by using this power. more than half his own country is ecstatic about this, so the UN cannot really go in there and force him off the throne again. for the time being, he is the returned legitimate heir.

i'm not saying it's gonna go like this, but this is something that makes sense, no?
sounds like the origins of Doom to me, for the most part. works to the essence of the character.

Sure, that would make sense, but there's no reason to believe any of it will actually be in the movie. All we know is that Domashev is a programmer who blogs under the alias "Doom".

Honestly, I don't think the blogging will play an integral role. It sounded like Kebbel was trying to explain how the character gets dubbed "Dr. Doom" when his surname isn't Doom. I wouldn't be surprised if the blog is only limited to one scene.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Depends on what he is blogging about, could it be the atrocities in Eastern Europe? the poverty? genocide of his people?

Could be a blog of most anything.

... but doom is notorious for not really taking the best care of his people. Latveria looks like the middle ages, and the money and tech all goes into doom and his plans... latveria is basically n korea. He's a crappy selfish ruler

 

[spideyboy_1111]

And, as with most modern terrorists, he's probably not going to try very hard to convince people of his point of view. Odds are he'll do something more along the lines of making threats and demanding things or else.

A blog can be for any purpose, really.

And people still have to willingly visit your blog. Its all very stupid. Hacking tv i get. Blogging i dont

 

[The Guard]

... but doom is notorious for not really taking the best care of his people. Latveria looks like the middle ages, and the money and tech all goes into doom and his plans... latveria is basically n korea. He's a crappy selfish ruler

I thought Doom took really good care of the people of Latveria.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I thought Doom took really good care of the people of Latveria.

... it looks like a renaissance festival. Its far from a modern country. Its all very peasanty. He may feed them. But thats about it

 

[fangz]

But it"s not that. "Blogging" is social. You're interacting with people and sharing ideas. Doom's big issue with Reed was that Reed read his notes, so why would he share ideas online when he is that private about what he's doing?

what if he is a political blogger, motivated by his feelings of injustice for what he sees as his birthright being torn from him and his father killed by foreign deposers?

 

[Kelly]

Well, what was the motto of the Russian Revolution?

"Peace, Land and Bread" and all they gave the Russians after they brought in Communism was "Bread".

It's not unheard of....


Who knows, I have no idea........ but hey, one speculation is as good as another...

 

[fangz]

and despots are not known for really trying to be rational or make sense.

they operate on firing up emotions. Doom as political blogger totally makes sense to me. people living under messed up circumstances can easily romanticize living under previous bad conditions.

 

[fangz]

just saying the idea of 'blogger' is being assumed as a thing that is 'immediately as silly as we first think it might be'.

that one small particular could really be played a number of ways. i personally would still rather FF rights go back to Marvel. this movie does not look or sound like the FF movie that i would most love to see.

i think we might get to see both, this movie, and a return to Marvel in time for FF debuting in Phase 4. fingers crossed. i think this movie just in itself has a lot of potential to be something great tho.

 

[Dasher10]

Are we really debating the merits of a blogging Dr. Doom? Good lord.


I knew someone would throw out the tired joker parallels. You really think an adaption handled by Josh Trank and one by Christopher Nolan are comparable? Mkay.
Btw, I think most people would agree that this thing isn't going to "bomb hard". Just that it won't look anything like the F4. That's the basic issue here.

And Ant-Man looks even less like the source material.

And-Man is no longer a redhead. Stature is no longer blonde. Hank Pym isn't Yellowjacket, instead Yellowjacket is Darren Cross. Hank Pym is also a senior. Wasp died before the film starts.

People forgive Ant-Man because it's Marvel Studios. People hate FF because it's Fox.

 

[Kelly]

And Ant-Man looks even less like the source material.

And-Man is no longer a redhead. Stature is no longer blonde. Hank Pym isn't Yellowjacket, instead Yellowjacket is Darren Cross. Hank Pym is also a senior. Wasp died before the film starts.

People forgive Ant-Man because it's Marvel Studios. People hate FF because it's Fox.

Incorrect...and is really insulting to those long time fans that have wanted a strong adaptation for decades.

This isn't a third strike for Marvel as far as the Ant-Man franchise....it is for Fox, so there isn't a lot more that these fans can take.

 

[Flint Marko]

And Ant-Man looks even less like the source material.

And-Man is no longer a redhead. Stature is no longer blonde. Hank Pym isn't Yellowjacket, instead Yellowjacket is Darren Cross. Hank Pym is also a senior. Wasp died before the film starts.

People forgive Ant-Man because it's Marvel Studios. People hate FF because it's Fox.

Lol and none of those examples are anywhere near as drastic as the changes made in the FF. Not to mention that Dr. Doom is a vastly more important character.
So in short he's a bigger character going through bigger changes, it seems pretty obvious why there is more of an uproar there.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

People forgive Ant-Man because it's Marvel Studios.

... and they make good movies.

People hate FF because it's Fox.

... and they make halfass movies.

But even so, who cares? What business is it of yours what reason some other person has for feeling the way they do? Enjoy your little FFINO movie and get off everyone else's back.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well, what was the motto of the Russian Revolution?

"Peace, Land and Bread" and all they gave the Russians after they brought in Communism was "Bread".

It's not unheard of....


Who knows, I have no idea........ but hey, one speculation is as good as another...

My point is you dont complain about social injustice and then go on to continue it

 

[The Guard]

I could have sworn Doom usually takes really good care of the people of Latveria.

 

[Preston91]

My point is you dont complain about social injustice and then go on to continue it

Well, tell that to 90% of Naruto's vilains t:

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I could have sworn Doom usually takes really good care of the people of Latveria.

He does, although he also demands utter loyalty and subservience.

Spoiler

 

[spideyboy_1111]

He does, although he also demands utter loyalty and subservience.

Spoiler

Basically like most dictator run countries... they think they have it good but simply just dont know any better. Its basically Stockholm syndrome on a country wide scale...

 

[Paradox1]

While being a blogger is a change, I see it as modernization. Toby is playing a younger doom and I don't find it far feteched for a character at his age, with that much anger, to have a blog. His handle of Doom plays into the mask people wear everyday of normalcy. Then him having this power becoming evil, just fits into his character.

 

[Preston91]

But they tried, unlike fox who basically created their own story with little bases pulled from any sort of source material.

But... doesn't the the teaser shows that Trank is heavily influenced by the UFF run ?

I mean, it's not like this new take of the FF and their origin story came out of nowhere... There's more than little bases, imo.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But... doesn't the the teaser shows that Trank is heavily influenced by the UFF run ?

I mean, it's not like this new take of the FF and their origin story came out of nowhere... There's more than little bases, imo.

Not really. It just show that the cast ages is similar to ultimate and the negative zone origin is borrowed. Thats where the line pretty much stops.

Its hardly "ultimate fantastic four: the movie"

Thats sorta like saying sam raimi's spider-man trilogy was based on ultimate spiderman because they used organic webbing, genetically altered spider, and eddie brock jr....

 

[spideyboy_1111]

While being a blogger is a change, I see it as modernization. Toby is playing a younger doom and I don't find it far feteched for a character at his age, with that much anger, to have a blog. His handle of Doom plays into the mask people wear everyday of normalcy. Then him having this power becoming evil, just fits into his character.

To me it screams of whiney anakin skye walker. Ill never be able to take blogger doom seriously