Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - Part 23

[coolmovies]

Is this dude supposed to be an insider or something?

No. But my friend is working on some of the fx of this film. He tells me whatever he knows about the project. I asked him if he could tell me some of the shots he is working on, but he wouldn't because then I will be posting here

And you can bet 100 bucks that fox will trace the info back to him...big trouble

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I'm assuming Kinberg is the person in question?
This is a very different interpretation of all the rumors, where is this information coming from? If true, it definitely casts Trank in a different light and means this film has more hope than I would have guessed.

When you say 'hope' I infer you mean greater chance that the rights will revert, because this film sounds like a cluster**** no matter how you slice it.

 

[coolmovies]

Why they didn't just use WETA/MPC at the start I don't know. I assume he felt he could revolutionize that new tool.

Because fox and Josh thought they can save quite a bit and still get good quality fx

Fox was just being cheap.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Kinberg must have pictures of studio execs cheating on their wives or something. That's the only explanation for his apparent clout in this industry.

 

[coolmovies]

this seems bogus... no single person does cgi fx for a film.. it takes a whole team and pain staking ours to do CGI special FX.....

Josh and his team were doing it. But they had to enlist more people. I can't believe at fox's miserly attitude and Josh trying to to do too much. For god sakes, you ain't a brilliant genius filmmaker. At best a talented person...some people bite off more then they can chew

 

[Tony Stark]

this seems bogus... no single person does cgi fx for a film.. it takes a whole team and pain staking ours to do CGI special FX.....

Agreed, I'm not buying these rumors.

 

[coolmovies]

No one has to believe the info. I just post what my friend tells me. It kinda makes sense to me with everything we know about this project. I wouldn't be surprised if all the on set problems are because of Josh being pissed at simon running the show and so taking his frustration out...and not going to set on some days...this whole thing is one giant ****up.

 

[Flint Marko]

No one has to believe the info. I just post what my friend tells me. It kinda makes sense to me with everything we know about this project. I wouldn't be surprised if all the on set problems are because of Josh being pissed at simon running the show and so taking his frustration out...and not going to set on some days...this whole thing is one giant ****up.

Does your friend expect the film to perform well in theaters, both critically and commercially? What, if anything, have you heard in regards to the quality of the movie itself?

 

[Dasher10]

No one has to believe the info. I just post what my friend tells me. It kinda makes sense to me with everything we know about this project. I wouldn't be surprised if all the on set problems are because of Josh being pissed at simon running the show and so taking his frustration out...and not going to set on some days...this whole thing is one giant ****up.

Is the end product at least supposed to look decent?

 

[Dasher10]

And earlier you were saying that this film looked good. Now you're saying that it's unwatchable. Which is it?

 

[coolmovies]

Does your friend expect the film to perform well in theaters, both critically and commercially? What, if anything, have you heard in regards to the quality of the movie itself?

Like I said he is working on some of the fx shots. He hasn't personally watched a rough cut. However, he told me a few weeks ago that his supervisor in LA had seen a cut way before the reshoots and thought it was decent but the movie has pacing issues, vfx still needs a lot of polishing, and there isn't enough action. Moreover, the movie cannot sustain with just good acting and decent story...the vfx will make or break it.

He did say reshoots were done to add more to an existing set piece and some scenes were shot to fix the pacing issues.

 

[coolmovies]

And earlier you were saying that this film looked good. Now you're saying that it's unwatchable. Which is it?

I have always maintained that the vfx needs A LOt of work. Never said it is good film or unwatchable. Although I have to admit that when I heard about this movie's problems from my friend , I assumed the worst and posted something hastily here by saying that my friend thinks it will be a disaster.

If the vfx turns out to be **** even after mpc and weta on board then well...it will be a disaster.

 

[Dasher10]

I have always maintained that the vfx needs A LOt of work. Never said it is good film or unwatchable. Although I have to admit that when I heard about this movie's problems from my friend , I assumed the worst and posted something hastily here by saying that my friend thinks it will be a disaster.

If the vfx turns out to be **** even after mpc and weta on board then well...it will be a disaster.

Can you ask your friend to describe each character in two words each? That's what I really want to know. And does he think the pacing issues were fixed?

 

[Flint Marko]

I have always maintained that the vfx needs A LOt of work. Never said it is good film or unwatchable. Although I have to admit that when I heard about this movie's problems from my friend , I assumed the worst and posted something hastily here by saying that my friend thinks it will be a disaster.

If the vfx turns out to be **** even after mpc and weta on board then well...it will be a disaster.

I have a feeling the VFX issues will be fixed in time.

 

[sleekstereo]

I have a feeling the VFX issues will be fixed in time.

Yea, I can't see Fox releasing it without it being fixed. They have a lot riding on it because of the money invested and they are on a good run both commercially and critics wise with comicbook movies. They'll push it back if they had to.

 

[sleekstereo]

As for Simon Kinberg, he is the Executive Producer right? I'm not sure of the mechanics involved in film making, but Directors are suppose to take direction for Executive Producers correct?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Yea, I can't see Fox releasing it without it being fixed. They have a lot riding on it because of the money invested and they are on a good run both commercially and critics wise with comicbook movies. They'll push it back if they had to.

Haven't had a rotten rating or a flop for a CBM since 2009. You'd think that'd earn them some goodwill, but alas.

 

[Paradox1]

As for Simon Kinberg, he is the Executive Producer right? I'm not sure of the mechanics involved in film making, but Directors are suppose to take direction for Executive Producers correct?

You are correct the Directors works for the producers.

 

[Flint Marko]

Haven't had a rotten rating or a flop for a CBM since 2009. You'd think that'd earn them some goodwill, but alas.

Three in a row, a new record for Fox!
They've made some of the worst movies in the genre. Like it or not, people are not going to forget that anytime soon.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Haven't had a rotten rating or a flop for a CBM since 2009. You'd think that'd earn them some goodwill, but alas.

They get plenty of goodwill when they manage to turn out a decent film.

You'd think you'd realize that, but alas.

Also I love the completely arbitrary "since 2009" marker. Very convenient.

Three in a row, a new record for Fox!
They've made some of the worst movies in the genre. Like it or not, people are not going to forget that anytime soon.

Yup.

 

[Spiderine]

Yea, I can't see Fox releasing it without it being fixed. They have a lot riding on it because of the money invested and they are on a good run both commercially and critics wise with comicbook movies. They'll push it back if they had to.

How far can they keep pushing it back? I thought there were timetables for these releases?

 

[RAE072]

How far can they keep pushing it back? I thought there were timetables for these releases?

I think they do have to release it within a certain time period after it's "made."

Or they lose it all.

I hope that happens.

 

[Flint Marko]

They get plenty of goodwill when they manage to turn out a decent film.

You'd think you'd realize that, but alas.

Also I love the completely arbitrary "since 2009" marker. Very convenient.

Cyclops is under the impression that the vitriol aimed towards this film is due to it being a 20th century fox production, and not because the movie looks nothing like a FF movie. You think it'd be obvious since DOFP was widely acclaimed, most people don't hate Fox on principle, but alas.

 

[Spiderine]

I think they do have to release it within a certain time period after it's "made."

Or they lose it all.

I hope that happens.

Nothing would make me happier.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

As for Simon Kinberg, he is the Executive Producer right? I'm not sure of the mechanics involved in film making, but Directors are suppose to take direction for Executive Producers correct?

Someone could own an art studio and employ artists, assign them projects and even make comments on potential improvements to composition etc. without being able to paint or draw anything more than a stick figure.

That doesn't mean he can't do it, but to assume a producer can step in and direct a film is a bit of a slap in the face to directors and the skill required to be one.