Fant4stic: Reborn! - Part 35

[TeeKay]

Thank you Kelly. Spot on. CWR much like Trank, cannot differentiate an opinion and an attack it seems.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Of course this is the same guy who called all detractors and even a talented Marvel artist racist and said he needed a challenge and knew people would criticize him.

Oh, how quaint. Looks like someone has yet to add "Growing a thicker skin" on his list of achievements.

Trank needs to grow the f*** up. He knew what he was signing up for. If he was confident in this film he wouldn't need to resort to such passive/aggressive behavior on the internetz. He'd just sit back and let the results speak for themselves. Clearly he knows an even greater s*** storm is coming for that ass in a few weeks.

 

[Orba]

Still, you can tell that the dialog was awkwardly pieced together word by word in really awkward ways. I'm surprised that Fox gave this trailer the go-ahead.

Yeah I'm a bit surprised that Fox gave it the go ahead too. The CGI is also a bit iffy, when Ben throws the tank turret it seems to disappear rather than actually explode, and in the daytime forest fight with the Thing the lighting seems off. Plus the international version is inconsistent with the colour in the N-Zone.

It all just feels a bit sloppy from a film that is less than a month from release.

 

[Val_Zod]

Bingo.

Marvel messing about with their own comic properties and merchandise is Marvels doing not Fox.

And Fox running properties to the ground is their fault, not Marvel's.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

And Fox running properties to the ground is their fault, not Marvel's.

I didn't say it was Marvels fault.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Oh, how quaint. Looks like someone has yet to add "Growing a thicker skin" on his list of achievements.

Trank needs to grow the f*** up. He knew what he was signing up for. If he was confident in this film he wouldn't need to resort to such passive/aggressive behavior on the internetz. He'd just sit back and let the results speak for themselves. Clearly he knows an even greater s*** storm is coming for that ass in a few weeks.

Trank knew what he was in for. He knew there would be backlash, and cunningly planned to respond to it like an angry teenager.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Josh Trank is just acting like what he is: a spoiled trust fund kid.

 

[Tony Stark]

Bingo.

Marvel messing about with their own comic properties and merchandise is Marvels doing not Fox.

And why should Marvel promote another companies projects when they have zero involvement? Yet Fox still attaches the "Marvel" banner at the beginning of the film because they are more than willing to borrow Marvel's reputation when it suits their needs.

 

[Val_Zod]

I didn't say it was.

The point is, people are not happy with what Fox is doing with Fantastic 4. They failed at 2 attempts already, and look to be batting 3 for 3. Yes, Marvel selling off their rights seems like a dumb idea in hindsight, but they were in desperation mode. Now that Marvel has become a machine, and they have maintained at the very least, consistency with their releases, people want to see their take on Fantastic 4. You are insinuating Fox has every right to do what they want with the property, and technically they can to an extent, but it doesn't mean people should accept it, and give it the benefit of a doubt, when it just doesn't interest to begin with.

Marvel doesn't want anything to do with something like that, as they want brand unity.

 

[Tony Stark]

Oh, how quaint. Looks like someone has yet to add "Growing a thicker skin" on his list of achievements.

Trank needs to grow the f*** up. He knew what he was signing up for. If he was confident in this film he wouldn't need to resort to such passive/aggressive behavior on the internetz. He'd just sit back and let the results speak for themselves. Clearly he knows an even greater s*** storm is coming for that ass in a few weeks.

LOL! yeah it's rather pathetic isn't it. Trank joined the wrong industry if he's really that thin skinned. It's amazing we are watching his career self destruct before our eyes.

 

[Flint Marko]

And why should Marvel promote another companies projects when they have zero involvement? Yet Fox still attaches the "Marvel" banner at the beginning of the film because they are more than willing to borrow Marvel's reputation when it suits their needs.

Fox has all but ruined the FF franchise, Marvel is obviously going to want to distance themselves from this project. And given Fox's track record, it also makes sense that Marvel would do everything in their power so that Fox benefits the least from exploiting their characters.

 

[yonny616]

And why should Marvel promote another companies projects when they have zero involvement? Yet Fox still attaches the "Marvel" banner at the beginning of the film because they are more than willing to borrow Marvel's reputation when it suits their needs.

They've always had the Marvel banner in their films. Also isn't it in the contract that there has to be a Marvel banner along with Marvel getting a small percentage of money earned?

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

You're giving in to the wishes of a large corporation simply because they're willing to harm their own properties? That's cowardice. I'm not willing to cave to pressure over Marvel's bad behavior since if Marvel got the FF rights back, they'd easily cancel all the X-Men comics. Fox gave Daredevil back and they canceled FF. Do you really think they won't go even harder on the X-Men if they get the FF back?

I'd rather see this film do well since it'll send a message to Marvel to not disrespect their fans, uncancel the FF and feature Fox-owned characters in animation and video games. Boycotting the film just because Marvel is throwing a temper tantrum sends the message that that type of bad behavior works.

Come on really? It's not even the same. The X-Men have at least been done a measure of justice by Fox not run into the ground like the FF have been. The FF are in critical condition, they are on life support but Marvel will never be able to resuscitate these characters while Fox is strip mining the property.

Would you rather see a bad film do well? What is the point? Are you really happy with what they've done to Doom for the THIRD TIME?

And stop complaining about the FF comic cancellation unless you were regularly buying issues. It rings hollow.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

The point is, people are not happy with what Fox is doing with Fantastic 4. They failed at 2 attempts already, and look to be batting 3 for 3. Yes, Marvel selling off their rights seems like a dumb idea in hindsight, but they were in desperation mode. Now that Marvel has become a machine, and they have maintained at the very least, consistency with their releases, people want to see their take on Fantastic 4. You are insinuating Fox has every right to do what they want with the property, and technically they can to an extent, but it doesn't mean people should accept it, and give it the benefit of a doubt, when it just doesn't interest to begin with.

Marvel doesn't want anything to do with something like that, as they want brand unity.

All I said was what Marvel does with comics and comic merchandising is completely on them and not Fox, that's a fact.

Blaming Fox for what Marvel does is asinine.

And why should Marvel promote another companies projects when they have zero involvement? Yet Fox still attaches the "Marvel" banner at the beginning of the film because they are more than willing to borrow Marvel's reputation when it suits their needs.

They wouldn't be promoting another companies project (movie). They'd be continuing with their own company's products (comics) that have been going for decades until now..

They didnt cancel the comics, merch and remove any reference to Fantastic Four when the previous movies came and went. And those comics and Merch obviously didn't do much promotion of those movies since they didn't do that good at the box office.

This is Marvel/Disney interfering with the Comics for the worse, out of spite. That is shameful and pointless tactics imo and I'm surprised the true fans of Fantastic Four who want a 616 movie are okay with it.

They've used the Marvel banner since before there was a Marvel Studios or reputation, it's not a recent thing.

 

[Marvolo]

Quick question: why is the alternate dimension now green? What happened to all the lava and fire? Did it test bad with test audiences? Was it to scary for the little kiddies? Personally I thought the fire and lave looked a whole lot better than this green energy stuff thats now all over the place. It looks like Kryptonite and Doom looks like he is made of Kryptonite with his inter-dimensional melted onto his kryptonite body.

I hope this is at least a good sci-fi film, but it just seems like bizarre F4 film. And Trank needs to man the **** up. He chose to dick with a set of characters that have devoted fans. If he cant handle the backlash he shouldnt have tried to do something so drastically different from the comics.

 

[Erzengel]

The difference between the FF and X-Men comics is there isn't a dozen FF comics.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Quick question: why is the alternate dimension now green? What happened to all the lava and fire? Did it test bad with test audiences? Was it to scary for the little kiddies?

Yeah that's a weird change. I preferred it the other way too. Perhaps it was to make the N-Zone planet more alien looking

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

I actually prefer it being green. It's something a bit different from "generic red, hellish landscape". The sudden change is still weird though.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Quick question: why is the alternate dimension now green? What happened to all the lava and fire? Did it test bad with test audiences? Was it to scary for the little kiddies? Personally I thought the fire and lave looked a whole lot better than this green energy stuff thats now all over the place. It looks like Kryptonite and Doom looks like he is made of Kryptonite with his inter-dimensional melted onto his kryptonite body.

Who knows but Trank is saying it was always supposed to be.

It's not like they filmed real lava and then had to recolor it, they made it red for the first trailer. What a stupid thing to lie about.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Who knows nut Trank is saying it was always supposed to be.

It's not like they filmed real lava and then had to recolor it, they made it red for the first trailer. What a stupid thing to lie about.

Good lord, what a damn tool. #truth.

 

[Eddie]

According to Trank, it was always intended to be green. Considering that concept art exists of the Thing being radioactive green, too, I'm inclined to believe that.

EDIT: If I had to guess, it was probably previously different because of an internal dispute over how it should look.

 

[Tony Stark]

All I said was what Marvel does with comics and comic merchandising is completely on them and not Fox, that's a fact.

Blaming Fox for what Marvel does is asinine.



They wouldn't be promoting another companies project (movie). They'd be continuing with their own company's products (comics) that have been going for decades until now..

They didnt cancel the comics, merch and remove any reference to Fantastic Four when the previous movies came and went. And those comics and Merch obviously didn't do much promotion of those movies since they didn't do that good at the box office.

This is Marvel/Disney interfering with the Comics for the worse, out of spite. That is shameful and pointless tactics imo and I'm surprised the true fans of Fantastic Four who want a 616 movie are okay with it.

They've used the Marvel banner since before there was a Marvel Studios or reputation, it's not a recent thing.

When the previous movies came out it was still a joint effort. Marvel hasn't been involved in Fox produced Marvel films for nearly a decade.

The average Joe doesn't know that marvel has no involvement in the Fox produced films. So any promotion Marvel did could be seen as promoting the film.

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

Thing's voice makes me cry.

 

[Farren]

Based on the new trailer I think some of our earlier speculation (that Sue might not go to the N-zone on the first mission but be caught in the accident from Earth-side) is probably correct. I think this is her here:

Spoiler

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Mr. Trank is not doing himself any favor with these tweets.