Paul Walker Talks HOURS, the Aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the FAST & FURIOUS Franchise, Working for James Wan, and Much More
by Christina Radish Posted 6 hours ago
Back on November 14th, I went to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel to speak to actor
Paul Walker at the press day for his upcoming film
Hours, an indie drama about a father who struggles to keep his newborn daughter alive in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. What most struck me about the nearly 45 minutes I spent chatting with him for our interview was that he was a reluctant movie star who placed importance on following his heart and doing things with merit and significance, fully appreciating the opportunities that he clearly felt like he really just fell into. It was one of the best interview experiences Ive ever had, and he was one of the most gracious and honest people Ive ever spoken to.
After sharing stories about what it was like to have been born and raised in the San Fernando Valley (he even asked me what hospital I was born in), the conversation got even more personal, with him telling me that being a good father was the most important thing to him, now that his 15-year-old daughter was living full-time with him, and how hard it was to find a good school that she could go to where she could make good friends. And he also told me about all of the physical injuries that hes gotten, over the years, and all of the physical therapy that hes had to do, as a result. Its a really introspective, insightful interview that I think is worth checking out, if you want a glimpse into the kind of guy he was. Check out what he had to say after the jump.
During this exclusive interview with Collider, Paul Walker talked about making sure this story set in the aftermath of Katrina was told without being exploitative, what it was like to shoot the film in New Orleans with crew members who had been through the hurricane, and feeling so exposed while telling this story. He also talked about how crazy the success of the
Fast & Furious franchise has been, what it was like to shoot with new director
James Wan on the seventh installment, how long he expected the franchise to continue, sometimes feeling guilty for his success because he thought people were more deserving, and how he wants to focus on the things that are important to him.
Collider: You must be happy that Im your last interview today, as I would imagine youre tired of talking about yourself.
PAUL WALKER: Its not so much tired, as I dont know how to regulate it. Its not that Im giving a performance, but Im a people pleaser. Im not one of those monkeys. If youre going to put the time in, then Im going to put the time in. Weve gotta do it. Were in it together. And you know how it is. Sometimes you just dont want to be there. Today, I actually like the movie, so its not hard for me. And I genuinely really liked the people that I worked with.
Was it important to you that, if you were going to do a film that addresses the aftermath of Katrina, it be handled in the right way and not exploit what happened?
WALKER: We werent there to exploit Katrina. Its just the backdrop. It made a good setting for what I thought was a touching story. And it started as a short story for [writer/director Eric Heisserer], and then his peers were like, You should turn this into a screenplay, so he did. I guess he was getting some offers to go and direct, but he held out. He wanted to do this one, and his reps were like, Really? This one? Youre sure this is the one? And he was like, Yeah, this is the one. I remember, early on, a buddy of mine was like, Youve gotta read this. Check this out.
What was it like to be in New Orleans and work with crew members who had been through Katrina?
WALKER: It was amazing! If you live in New Orleans and you went through it, you have a fleur-de-lis tattoo. You just do. And all those guys had a story, whether they had experienced it, firsthand, or whether it was something that their aunt went through or their sister, and a lot of it was tragic. But the guys that were there, were there for the right reasons. I was intimidated by this script. I read it and was like, Wow, this is really honest. Its really truthful. You have to not be human for this to not touch you. Eric told me, The people we have on this are really into it for the reasons that we are, and even more so because some of them experienced it. I felt like I had to go there and walk around naked, in front of those people. The way that I was raised, you dont go on journeys like this. Inside maybe, but you dont show that to people. Nolan is not showing this to anybody. Its something that he goes on, himself. But in order for me to go there, I had to go there in front of all these people. It was like showing up to set with your clothes off. I was like, Okay, I hope I represent well today. The thing that worked was seeing the genuine engagement from the guys that were there. They were all into it, and you could see them being moved, after a take. Wed screw around a little bit, every once in awhile, but it was just a different tone.
What was it like to do the scenes with Genesis Rodriguez?
WALKER: I told Eric, early on, I cant fake liking a girl. I just cant. I have to really like her. Shes incredible. Shes so warm. Shes like who you see on screen. Thats who she is. You cant fake that kind of energy.
What was it like to be doing practically every scene of this movie essentially by yourself?
WALKER: I didnt feel alone. I was insulated. It became a big electric blanket for me. It felt warm and it felt good. In some ways, it was easier, too. You could just go there. It complicates it when you have somebody else throwing stuff at you cause it takes you out of your game. They do something and youre like, Woah, what was that? There was nobody there to throw me off my game path. It was like, I know where this starts, I know where this ends, and this is what Ive gotta do. It just affected me a lot more than I thought it was going to.
Do you enjoy the luxury of being able to do films like
Hours, because of the success youve had with some bigger films?
WALKER: Ive been pretty fortunate with things, without even trying. I was just kind of anointed. In order to really feel good about it, youve gotta earn it. I have friends that are super talented, that are far more talented than I am, in certain areas, but it just doesnt happen for them. Sometimes you feel guilty for your success because you know people who deserve it way more. This is nice, for a change. Its cool to have a big movie that opens up #1. Ive had that a couple of times now.
Are you still amazed at how the
Fast & Furious movies do better, with each one that opens?
WALKER: Its crazy! Well see what happens with this next one.
How has it felt, having a different director with James Wan?
WALKER: I was so scared, going in without Justin [Lin]. I ran into J.J. Abrams at South by Southwest, and he was like, Hey, whats up man? I did Joy Ride. He wrote Joy Ride with Clay Tarver, and I did that movie in 1998, before J.J. was J.J. I think Felicity came right after that, or something. Hes a cool guy. It doesnt seem like hes changed that much, which I was stoked to see. I said, They want us to go do another Fast & Furious, but my man, Justin, isnt coming back. I dont know if I want to do it. He said, ****, dont do it then. That was coming from a director. I thought that was cool. I really was like, I dont know. And Justin passed on a crazy amount of money. I was like, Wow, Justin, good for you, man. This takes a lot of your life. Youve been doing it for a long time. Go do something else. Directors are married to a project for so much longer than directors are. Well go do three in the time it takes for a director to finish one.
I was still deciding, and Peter Safran, a producer on Hours, did The Conjuring with James. So, when James was anointed as the new guy, Peter called me up and said, Dude, youre gonna love him. That guys amazing! Coming from Peter, that meant something. I really respect him. I was like, Thats good. And then, it turned into a conversation with James over the phone, and I was like, This guy is so sweet. Hes so nice. My intuition is on point with people. I can read people. Even through the phone, you can read sincerity. You cant ******** me. Ive been around too many sharks, for too long. I was like, Hes a really good guy. I called up Peter and was like, You werent kidding. This guy is awesome! And then, I was like, Sweet people get eaten up. I started thinking like that.
So, I was having these conversations with him, and I think it was the third conversation when I said, Do you realize what youre getting into with this thing? This movie means far too much to too many people. Its not just that, on the day, but think of how many stars there are, how many producers, how much this represents to the studio, and the fan pressure. So, when I said, Do you realize what youre getting into?, he was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! And then, about two weeks into it, he was like, The real answer is no, I didnt realize what I was getting myself into. I really believed I was gonna have more freedom and get to do more stuff on this than I did on the smaller movies, but its just the opposite.
Maybe this is just horrible bad, but I think Ive had enough successes to where the journey is more important to me now. Theres no guarantee, no matter what. We get one run in life. I dont want to work with *****ebags. I wanna work with good people. I dont want to work with screaming, yelling directors whove got daddy issues. I just dont want to deal with those guys. James is really excited on set. Hes just a cool guy. There wasnt nearly enough time for prep. We got it going way too fast, like we always do. There are times where he was barely able to keep up with it because it was moving so quick, but youd never know it because he wont reveal it. Hes a little ninja. Hes a little assassin warrior. Justin was the same way. He has the heart of a lion. Im really, really impressed with James, as a person. The shots and what he comes up with, theres a certain fluidity. He definitely has a look. Hes a shooter. He has good movement. I like his angle and composition and the way he looks at things. Hes a talented guy. Well see what happens. He deserves a victory, Ill tell you that.
How does the action compare to the previous films?
WALKER: He hasnt done as much of it. It takes everybody a little bit to find their stride, but he figures it out really quick. I couldnt do what hes doing right now. Ive been around it a long time, and I couldnt do it. I police personalities and make sure things are harmonies. Thats what I do. I just want there to be good energy, all the time, and I think that works well with a director like James. With this one, I think its cool cause everyone was a little fearful with Justin leaving and bringing in a new guy, but the entire cast embraced him and was cool with him. They wouldnt feel as compelled to do that, if he didnt exude what he does. Its not so much being good guys, as much as it is wanting to be a good guy because hes a good guy. Its pretty cool. I like seeing that.
Have you had any conversations with Vin Diesel about how many more films you want to do and how long this franchise can realistically go on?
WALKER: Well, the studio supposedly wants 8, 9 and 10. Ill be 50. Even if 7 were to [tank], theres at least an 8. Thats a guarantee. The thing thats pretty crazy is that neither Vin nor I were going back to do the third one. They were going to do a direct-to-video 4. They were going to dispose it and be done with it. But then, Vin was like, No, Ill come in for a cameo, because it wasnt testing well. He wanted to set up the fourth one and the studio went for it, and we got a second life. It was supposed to be done already.
When you did the first film, did you ever think that Brian OConnor was a character that youd still be playing?
WALKER: It was the same studio I had worked with on The Skulls, and Rob Cohen directed it and it had the same producer, Neal Moritz. They asked me what I wanted to do next, when we were getting towards the end of it, and I had seen Days of Thunder and Donnie Brasco, and I said, I want to do something where Im either an undercover cop or Im racing cars. Three months later, they came to me with a newspaper article about street racing in Los Angeles. They were like, This is the backdrop. Youre an undercover cop in that world. Theres no screenplay, but its called Redline. They offered me a million bucks. I was 25 years old. I went to my reps and said, I wanna do it! They were like, Youre crazy! There isnt even a screenplay. I was like, Are you kidding me?! These are my friends. I wanna go make a movie with my friends.
It wouldnt have gotten past the first movie, if Rob hadnt treated it as he did. When he read the screenplay, he looked at it like and saw a masterpiece. I was like, This guy is really making more of this than he should. But, it was because of the attention and the reverence that he gave it that the first one turned out the way it did. Who would have thought, way back when, that Redline was gonna become what it became.
I got phone calls from Neal and Rob when the movie came out. I was hanging out with a girlfriend, and they went out to the midnight showings on opening night. I saved their messages, for years and years and years, and I should have put them on a recorder, but I never did. I literally had Neal screaming into my phone on my voicemail going, Its a cultural phenomenon! Its 12:30 and theyre lined up around the theater! And Rob Cohen was right there going, Theres a girl standing here in line thats really hot! You wanna say hi to Paul? Who would have ever thought? We were a B movie that turned into this crazy thing. Its a funny game. Who would have ever thought?
How do you feel your outlook on acting has changed, since you started?
WALKER: People that I thought were my friends, way back when, arent really my friends. I was this impressionable, innocent kid. I thought I was cool. I had smoked a lot of weed, and done acid and shrooms, so I thought Id been around the world and knew what was up. I didnt realize that not everybody that postures as being your friend is actually your friend. So, I took some lumps and bumps, early on, and it jaded me. It made me somewhat cynical. I realized that I was actually just a hot piece of young ass. That sucks, but that was the truth. That was a hard lesson for me. It still happens. The industry is still guilty. Now I know, but theres still a little bit of a chip. Im still angry at the structure of things. But thats just the world, in general. It bums me out that its like that, but I survived and I came out the other side, and I have more than a handful of legitimate friends now. I think its a miracle that Im still here cause I didnt even try, and I did everything I could to sabotage this career.
Im a science guy. Im a geek. I love geology and botany and marine science. I thought maybe Id be a professional guide, or maybe even a park ranger, working for the department of fish and game. But, this stupid franchise wouldnt let me go. They keep coming back. It created some opportunities, though. I was really excited to go do Eight Below. I was really excited to do Running Scared. I was really excited to do Hours. Ive gotten to travel the world, and I wouldnt have the friends that I have in that cast. It wasnt a natural fit or pairing. We come from opposite ends. I respect Ludacris more than just about anybody on the planet. Hes such a great guy. Hes got such a good head on his shoulders. Vins a pain in my ass. We come from opposite ends of the spectrum. I wish I had some of him in me, though. He says the same thing to me, too. He says, I wish I could be more like you, sometimes. We **** with each other, all the time, but hes been a hell of a partner. The guy is a lot smarter than a lot of people realize. Not that hes a dummy, but a lot of people think hes a dummy. Vin is really sharp.
Now, I just wanna feel good about what I do. Its cool to win, but I wanna feel good about it. You can get caught up in the machine of it. We all know not to live above our means. Were all told to stop and smell the roses. It doesnt matter the game or the arena, we forget, all the time. You get to a place, and it doesnt matter what you do, but theres something to be said about doing it yourself and really being present when you do it. Dont just show up and mail it in. Nobody can love your dog more than you can love your dog. Nobody can be a better aunt to your niece or your nephew than you can be. It sounds ******ed, but thats where Im at, in my head.
The things that are important to me, I wanna do it and not mail it in. Dont have other people pick up slack on the things that have real merit and heart and significance to you. We all compromise ourselves, from time to time, because maybe it will lead to more opportunity, or maybe theres another buck to be made and I can help my sister out. All of thats cool, but we forget and we get caught up. If you want that nurturing, caring, empathetic, compassionate heart to keep on ticking and be around, and you want it to be strong, then dont neglect #1. One way to feed it is just being truthful and listening to your heart.
We forget and get off track and start thinking with our head too much. If its not in your heart, you dont need it. If your heart is always your guide, then you always make the right decision, even if it hurts. Even if it doesnt turn out well, if you felt the commitment and you felt the devotion, then youre winning. I dont know how I got on this, but I just turned 40 and Ive been looking back.
The Hours opens in theaters on December 13th.
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