Future TV shows from Marvel?

[Loki882]

All three of those characters are perfect for TV. I'd imagine that Iron Fist and Misty Knight might pop up in the Luke Cage series at some point, and that Elektra and maybe even Punisher might appear in the DD one. I wonder if the Luke Cage/Jessica Jones shows will crossover at some point, or if they'll develop the Cage/Jones romance like in the comics? A "reimagined" Defenders sounds intriguing. I wonder what they mean by that? Maybe it's simply referring to a different founding line up.

 

[Dark Raven]

So we are getting a Daredevil series? But I don't know if I want to see a small-screen Defenders. They have Hulk and Dr Strange in the MCU, and those two are such leading staples of that team. Why would they call it "The Defenders" when it's more like Heroes for Hire?

And they probably won't be able to call it "The Defenders" anyway but some long-winded title like Marvel's Agents of SHIELD instead of SHIELD, because there already was a legal series called "The Defenders".

They should just stick to calling the mini-series "Heroes for Hire" or "Marvel Knights".

Save the Defenders for more classic members of that team.

BTW they need to cast these shows much better than Agents of SHIELD. Especially Daredevil. These characters need to have the potential to end up on the big screen. I don't see an actor of the calibre of Brett Dalton (Agent Ward) appearing on the big screen.

 

[def28]

They should just stick to calling the mini-series "Heroes for Hire" or "Marvel Knights".

Save the Defenders for more classic members of that team.

Who cares. We got the Avengers for the big guns and classic members. We dont need 8 different sqauds at this point. 2 is plenty, Defenders gives them just as much leeway on who to add and sounds more like a TV equivalant to Avengers.

 

[Loki882]

I don't know what the rights are for the Defenders. I think that'll we'll get a somewhat different line up and that their precise mission statement might vary slightly.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think Marvel Knights is a better name than The Defenders anyway.

But if they went with The Defenders I think all they have to do is call it "Marvel's The Defenders" and they can use the name.

 

[Dark Raven]

Who cares. We got the Avengers for the big guns and classic members. We dont need 8 different sqauds at this point. 2 is plenty, Defenders gives them more leeway on who to add.

Where have I mentioned 8 different squads?

I said that they should call the mini series "Heroes for Hire". That still gives them just as much leeway on who to add.

And having a big screen Defenders doesn't suddenly bring the total up to 8. It's just one extra team and gives as much leeway since Hulk and Dr Strange can feature but don't always have to feature. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to see classic Defenders team members in the team. I suppose you'd have been content to see non-classic Avengers in an Avengers movie then? Or you would be okay with having Iron Man, Thor and Captain America team up but calling themselves something other than the Avengers?

When people see DD, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones teaming up, the "team" that more naturally comes to mind is Heroes for Hire or Marvel Knights. Why call themselves the name of a team which people usually associate with a completely different set of characters?

 

[def28]

Because it doesn't matter at all in the end. Daredevil and Cage were defenders as well. There will probably more members added, and Defenders sounds like a smaller version of Avengers.Tell me which one will sell more to an audeince unaware, Heros for Hire or Defneders as a crossover? Heros for Hire could very well be apart of Luke Cages and Iron Fists storyline.

I think Marvel Knights is a better name than The Defenders anyway.

Marvel Knights doesn't sound like a team. It sounds like something they would put on the front of their comics, tv shows or movies to show its darker or lesser known characters. Defenders sounds like a big superhero crossover team. Which Im guessing is why they chose it.

 

[Dark Raven]

Marvel Knights doesn't sound like a team. It sounds like something they would put on the front of their comics, tv shows or movies to show its darker or lesser known characters. Defenders sounds like a big superhero crossover team.

And so does Heroes for Hire. Or have you conveniently ignored that part I wrote and just focussed on the "Marvel Knights" suggestion?

The fact is that Marvel are just slapping on the name of an entirely different team on this set of heroes who are usually collectively associated with something else. Imagine if they called "The Avengers" "the Defenders" instead. Or if the big screen Avengers didn't exist, imagine if they called DD, LC, IF and JJ "the Avengers."

 

[def28]

And so does Heroes for Hire. Or have you conveniently ignored that part I wrote and just focussed on the "Marvel Knights" suggestion?

No I didn't. That was in response to MessiahDecoy. I edited.

 

[Hawkingbird]

Is it live action?

 

[Chewy]

Well no, the name Heroes for Hire implies that they're doing their superheroics for, well, hire. That's probably not where they're planning on taking the team-up miniseries

And anyway, Marvel doesn't own Silver Surfer or Namor and Hulk is major member of the film Avengers. So it's not like we were going to get the classic Defenders team anyway

 

[cph9fa]

(Which makes me wonder, tangentially, whether Ruffahulk might guest star in a Dr. Strange film.)

 

[def28]

Well no, the name Heroes for Hire implies that they're doing their superheroics for, well, hire. That's probably not where they're planning on taking the team-up miniseries

And anyway, Marvel doesn't own Silver Surfer or Namor and Hulk is major member of the film Avengers. So it's not like we were going to get the classic Defenders team anyway

Bingo, much better said then me.

 

[Dark Raven]

No I didn't. That was in response to MessiahDecoy. I edited.

Ok I didn't see at the time.

I think personally that having separate series for Luke Cage and Iron Fist is a bit of a waste of a series. Since it's in episodic form, there is more than enough room and time for both Luke Cage and Iron Fist's stories to be told in a series which features both of them. They can have team up stories and separate solo adventures.

The problem with this mini series is that it might mean it's the only real time that Power Man and Iron Fist properly team up. And if they are teaming up regularly before that via crossovers, then why not have them both in the same series? It will provide much better chemistry and a better cast anyway. On their own, both series could be a bit lacklustre, which is exactly the way it was in the comics before Marvel decided to put them together.

That would leave room for a series about a different character like the Punisher or Ghost Rider.

Also, what's happened to this proposed Agent Carter series? Is that not on the table anymore? It's obviously not the mini series now.

 

[DrCosmic]

I said that they should call the mini series "Heroes for Hire". That still gives them just as much leeway on who to add.

And having a big screen Defenders doesn't suddenly bring the total up to 8. It's just one extra team and gives as much leeway since Hulk and Dr Strange can feature but don't always have to feature. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to see classic Defenders team members in the team. I suppose you'd have been content to see non-classic Avengers in an Avengers movie then? Or you would be okay with having Iron Man, Thor and Captain America team up but calling themselves something other than the Avengers?

When people see DD, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones teaming up, the "team" that more naturally comes to mind is Heroes for Hire or Marvel Knights. Why call themselves the name of a team which people usually associate with a completely different set of characters?

'Heroes for Hire' is a horrible team name for a group of "self sacrificing heroes" and "Marvel Knights" is just a bad team name narratively. Can you imagine Luke Cage saying "We're the Marvel Knights?" or even "We're the Knights?" EWWWWW!!! I'm literally cringing over here.

The classic Defenders team not only is not possible, but fulfills the same role as Avengers already does in the MCU. Like you said, a big screen Defenders would be an extra team, which, unless Marvel screws up big time, will never be needed, so there's no reason to strive for it in this context. Much better to go the Ultimate route or the modern Defenders route and mix up the team to create something that is wholly distinct in scope and mission from the Avengers.

 

[DrCosmic]

Ok I didn't see at the time.

I think personally that having separate series for Luke Cage and Iron Fist is a bit of a waste of a series. Since it's in episodic form, there is more than enough room and time for both Luke Cage and Iron Fist's stories to be told in a series which features both of them. They can have team up stories and separate solo adventures.

The problem with this mini series is that it might mean it's the only real time that Power Man and Iron Fist properly team up. And if they are teaming up regularly before that via crossovers, then why not have them both in the same series? It will provide much better chemistry and a better cast anyway. On their own, both series could be a bit lacklustre, which is exactly the way it was in the comics before Marvel decided to put them together.

That would leave room for a series about a different character like the Punisher or Ghost Rider.

Also, what's happened to this proposed Agent Carter series? Is that not on the table anymore? It's obviously not the mini series now.

I think Iron Fist and Luke Cage can't be a single series because their origins are so far from each other. Yes, they eventually form an incredible defining partnership, but that's after they've established themselves, after they've become awesome. There's no room for Iron First in a Cage's prison break "blaxploitation" revenge flick. There's no room for Luke Cage in Iron Fist's "mighty whitey" martial arts epic. Rushing either story to get to the part where you bring in a totally different type of character would be a great disservice to the stories. Let Luke Cage and Iron Fist be done real justice, instead of minimizing them and undercutting their stories so we can get to characters we've seen before. Especially ones like Punisher, who works best as a guest star, not a solo hero. Or worse, Ghost Rider, who doesn't even work on a TV budget.

Now, chances are, Iron Fist (with Misty Knight!) and Jessica Jones will join Luke Cage towards the tail end of his series after he establishes 'Heroes for Hire,' but it would be unwise to cut his story short.

 

[DrCosmic]

Is it live action?

Y'know, they didn't say, but I highly, highly doubt they just order 60 episodes of cartoons.

 

[Dark Raven]

'Heroes for Hire' is a horrible team name for a group of "self sacrificing heroes" and "Marvel Knights" is just a bad team name narratively. Can you imagine Luke Cage saying "We're the Marvel Knights?" or even "We're the Knights?" EWWWWW!!! I'm literally cringing over here.

The classic Defenders team not only is not possible, but fulfills the same role as Avengers already does in the MCU. Like you said, a big screen Defenders would be an extra team, which, unless Marvel screws up big time, will never be needed, so there's no reason to strive for it in this context. Much better to go the Ultimate route or the modern Defenders route and mix up the team to create something that is wholly distinct in scope and mission from the Avengers.

There are still classic members of the Defenders like Nighthawk, Valkyrie and Hellcat who are far more associated with the team than DD, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and especially Jessica Jones. If those three were there for the small screen Defenders, then even if they don't have the likes of Hulk, Dr Strange, Namor or Silver Surfer, then it would still seem more like the comic book Defenders. And having DD and Luke Cage there would be more like those issues where those two did appear.

As for an extra team, well are you saying that if Marvel had the rights to the Fantastic Four, that they also wouldn't be needed because they already have the Avengers? Or maybe they'll just end up as Avengers themselves and not a separate family of four because everything has to fall under this Avengers umbrella?

 

[marvelrobbins]

Dr Strange Is very much Intial of the Defenders and last we heard they were planning film of him.

Hopefully Daredevil will turn out better than agents of Shield

 

[def28]

It will be interesting if these characters ever feature in film at some point.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I'm pretty excited for this, I wonder what kind of talent they'll recruit.

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

Man, I don't even care if the Defenders mini-series has nothing to do with the comics - the fact that we're going to get Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage & Iron Fist makes me so freaking excited! Props to Marvel, really hope these series turn out awesome.

Now it's time to start banging out story ideas...

 

[Dark Raven]

Dr Strange Is very much Intial of the Defenders and last we heard they were planning film of him.

Hopefully Daredevil will turn out better than agents of Shield

Only if they cast it very strongly. As I've said before, the lead needs to be someone who can easily make the jump to the big screen if necessary. Maybe they even need to hire a movie actor who is willing to do TV rather than just an inexperienced TV actor. We definitely don't want another Agent Ward type.

And hopefully it won't be written by the likes of Joss Whedon. We don't need more Whedonesque characters on this show like FitzSimmons and Skye, or that kind of Scooby Gang humour.

I hope DD is as good as any crime series out there.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Netflix is a good place to place these shows for these reasons:

1. Ratings don't matter- It's not on Network TV, so ratings don't really matter.
2. The content- The content will probably be a bit darker in nature because of Netflix. Hemlock Grove, Orange is the New Black and House of Cards have a lot of cursing, some nudity and some violence.
3. Binge Watching- Can watch the entire season in one day.

 

[Dark Raven]

I asked this in another thread, but people here might know better. What other TV shows have aired solely on Netflix before?