Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 1

[I SEE SPIDEY]

FF has nothing to do with Gambit.

An Incomptent director-Josh Trank Isn't doing It.Rupert Wyatt left film just as what happened with Last Stand,First Class,the wolverine,and DOFP.3 out of those 4 films turned out good.

Simon Kinberg is only a producer on Gambit.That's a major plus.

Hopeful we aren't entering time where X boards turn as toxic as FF.

First off the only boards that don't have much obsessive nit picking, whining and trolling are the Marvel boards. And that's because most think that they have done a good job and they have had no flops outside of The Incredible Hulk (and no it didn't do well).

When you have that sort of record you are the leader in your field a get good fans and obnoxious fans. I don't agree that every Marvel film is good and personally I am getting sick of drama being ruined by endless quips and jokes but I recognize that I am in the minority. And even with my complaints I acknowledge that they do have a better track record than Fox and WB. I'm not going to deny reality because I'm not as in love with Marvel as most are. That would be silly.

I hate fanboy crap but Fox brought the ridicule on to FF by doing everything wrong with that film. The fanboys who went down with the FF ship should really be careful with how they evaluate the Gambit situation. Those people have a blind spot for Fox just like I have one for WB. I actually don't deny that blind spot though and I do criticize WB. It's impossible for me to be a completely blind fan.

Gambit is not yet doomed but it is having issues right now. I certainly hope Fox gets it together and tries to make a good film.

 

[TeeKay]

First off the only boards that don't have much obsessive nit picking, whining and trolling are the Marvel boards. And that's because most think that they have done a good job and they have had no flops outside of The Incredible Hulk (and no it didn't do well).

When you have that sort of record you are the leader in your field a get good fans and obnoxious fans. I don't agree that every Marvel film is good and personally I am getting sick of drama being ruined by endless quips and jokes but I recognize that I am in the minority. And even with my complaints I acknowledge that they do have a better track record than Fox and WB. I'm not going to deny reality because I'm not as in love with Marvel as most are. That would be silly.

I hate fanboy crap but Fox brought the ridicule on to FF by doing everything wrong with that film. The fanboys who went down with the FF ship should really be careful with how they evaluate the Gambit situation. Those people have a blind spot for Fox just like I have one for WB. I actually don't deny that blind spot though and I do criticize WB. It's impossible for me to be a completely blind fan.

Gambit is not yet doomed but it is having issues right now. I certainly hope Fox gets it together and tries to make a good film.

Truth be told, I have my respect for those who went down with the sinking ship. No ship should go down without her Captain and crew. Hats off.

 

[X-Maniac]

What's all this nonsense about sinking ships? I haven't seen anyone raving about the F4 being a masterpiece, so I don't think there was anyone on board. Most people went for the lifeboats at some stage.

 

[starscream22]

This is largly let's crap on Fox.When the many that i put on my ignore list from time In FF board start posting In X-Men threads when they mostly hate all X-Men films It's let's crap on X-Men now.

Directors leaving Is an X-Men tradation

X-Men the Last Stand
X-Men First Class
The Wolverine
X-Menays of Future Past

Channing Tatum was playing hardball In neogrations.

Oh really.plenty are coming and saying Gambit is doomed despite fact X-Men films have plenty of history of directors leaving including the most successful
X-Men film-Days of Future Past.

quite a few have nothing good to say about Fox and X-Men films.Just as I would never claim to have in politics anything good to say about Hilary Clinton or
Donald Trump those I put on my ignore list don't have anything good to say
about X-Men films.

I Imedetly knew when i heard news of Wyatt leaving on twitter there would be pile on Gambit.

If said people are all on your "ignore list" then why do you care?

But then he can crap on Marvel without problems.

Shhhh! You'll get put on the ignore list! To my understanding making true statements = BAD!

It is interesting to see how defensive some are in light of Fox's recent missteps. Healthy skepticism of this film is warranted, although I have yet to see anyone throw in the towel on Gambit completely. We know so little about this movie, but it's worth noting that a lot of it doesn't sound good. And that's perfectly okay to point out.

Yeah, all I said was that this film wouldn't be released in 2016 and that was back when the news of this film was first released. Declaring everyone with issue haters and bragging about their ignore list won't change this film if it is crap.

We know so little about this movie, but it's worth noting that a lot of it doesn't sound good. And that's perfectly okay to point out.

Yeah an X-men character that was given the sh@ft the first time he debuted and then placed in development h3ll only to be given a release date because Lauren Cougar-Donner has a thing for Magic Mike and I simply ask, "What could possibly go wrong?"

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Just cut the budget and be rational. If Wolverine, one of the 4 or 5 most popular characters in the world makes 415 million with a smaller budget, what can Fox reasonably expect from Gambit? They don't have the brand power of Marvel.

 

[Eddie]

What's all this nonsense about sinking ships? I haven't seen anyone raving about the F4 being a masterpiece, so I don't think there was anyone on board. Most people went for the lifeboats at some stage.

It absolutely happened. There were members that raved about the greatness of Fant4stic, including one who claimed to see it four times.

 

[TeeKay]

What's all this nonsense about sinking ships? I haven't seen anyone raving about the F4 being a masterpiece, so I don't think there was anyone on board. Most people went for the lifeboats at some stage.

It totally happened. But then again you admitted not spending time in the FF forums so you couldnt possibly know if there were people who went down with the ship. I won't name them but yeah I admire them for that.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Just cut the budget and be rational. If Wolverine, one of the 4 or 5 most popular characters in the world makes 415 million with a smaller budget, what can Fox reasonably expect from Gambit? They don't have the brand power of Marvel.

Well, the quality of their brand rises and falls based on the quality of the previous films (which is true with Marvel as well, it's just that Marvel's quality has been better). The Wolverine suffered from X-Men Origins being terrible. With DOFP and, hopefully a good Apocalypse movie, I don't think Fox would be crazy for having more optimism with Gambit.

 

[Zarex]

Well, the quality of their brand rises and falls based on the quality of the previous films (which is true with Marvel as well, it's just that Marvel's quality has been better). The Wolverine suffered from X-Men Origins being terrible. With DOFP and, hopefully a good Apocalypse movie, I don't think Fox would be crazy for having more optimism with Gambit.

I'm curious to see if Fant4stic will have a negative impact on the upcoming FOX/Marvel slate. The film was branded as from The Studio that Brought You Days Of Future Past, Kinberg and company spoke of crossovers and the casts of FOX's superhero films were commingled in a widely circulated glamour photo.

Deadpool may be fine due to its limited audience, but Apocalypse may face some backlash.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I don't think there will be a backlash for Apocalypse, at least one that really matters.

If the Deadpool film is able to capture the best of what makes the character so exhilarating and beloved in the comics, then suddenly that IP could become lightning in a bottle. You can bet Fox would take advantage of their new shiny toy with an X-Force film, where he could team him up with poster boy Wolverine. Audiences would eat that up (I know I would). Suddenly an X-Force film could make the X-Men seem passé in some respects. The FF are a lost cause and possibly Gambit, but Fox has plenty of options going forward.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

With DOFP and, hopefully a good Apocalypse movie, I don't think Fox would be crazy for having more optimism with Gambit.

I don't either, but the reported budget of $150 million would be crazy. If Fox's golden boy Wolverine made 415 million, what do they expect Gambit to pull in? Cut the budget and they could make it work.

 

[MadVillainy]

Hell the, reported, production budget for The Wolverine was 120, Rogue Nation's reported budget was 150 mill

I dont get what is required of a Gambit movie that costs more than the Wolverine and as much as Rogue Nation

 

[Mr. Youtube]

The site that reported the budget FIRST, is it reliable?

 

[X-Maniac]

Hell the, reported, production budget for The Wolverine was 120, Rogue Nation's reported budget was 150 mill

I dont get what is required of a Gambit movie that costs more than the Wolverine and as much as Rogue Nation

Must be plans for lots of location filming and complex action sequences, like Rogue Nation. If the budget is accurate.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

While I think Fox could end up regretting a large budget, I'd much rather have that than see them slash the budget just prior to the start of filming like they have done in the past to disastrous results. If they have written a movie that requires said budget, then just go for it at this point.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

While I think Fox could end up regretting a large budget, I'd much rather have that than see them slash the budget just prior to the start of filming like they have done in the past to disastrous results. If they have written a movie that requires said budget, then just go for it at this point.

It looks like the opposite might be what's causing all the problems:

One source told The Hollywood Reporter that a changing script caused the film's budget to be larger than expected, extending the shoot, and prompting the push. Another source said that the shooting schedule around Mardi Gras caused the reshuffling. Either way, it became a conflict for Wyatt, who had to exit.

A changing script caused the film’s budget to balloon, extending the shoot. Production was set to start in November, but has now been delayed to early 2016, prompting Wyatt’s departure, sources tell Variety.

At least they didn't pull a TASM2.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, my initial fear was they pulled a FF and cut the budget. But it appears to be a genuine schedule conflict due to the increased budget. The timing is bad, but I wouldn't be alarmed just yet.

 

[Knight_SV]

Fox mistake is they don't introduce gambit back in the first X-Men movie when he was at the height of his popularity at the time

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Fox mistake is they don't introduce gambit back in the first X-Men movie when he was at the height of his popularity at the time

I thought that was mistake as well, always did. They definitely could have introduced him in the sequel as well.

 

[TeeKay]

Making the Gambit film almost seems like an impulsive move IMO. I don't think they thought things out carefully.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Here's the deal, Gambit's popularity is tied to being apart of the X-Men. He's not a solo character so of course people are going to be a little leery about him getting a solo film.

 

[TeeKay]

Exactly. Like other have stated, put him in an X men film before giving him his own spin off. What they're doing now is rather risky considering how the character was received in his last on screen appearance.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Here's the deal, Gambit's popularity is tied to being apart of the X-Men. He's not a solo character so of course people are going to be a little leery about him getting a solo film.

This is a big problem that Fox has with the X-Men universe as opposed Marvel or DC. With the Avengers or Justice League, the characters are basically solo characters that have come together in a team. All but the most minor ones have their own backstories, supporting cast, villains, and niche in the group. The individual X-Men all basically share from the same pool.

Wolverine is developed enough to handle a solo film franchise, as is Deadpool. Cable probably can too. After that, things get iffy.

I actually think Gambit is probably one of the easier ones, as he tends to have a looser attachment to the main group than someone like Iceman or Cyclops.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Making the Gambit film almost seems like an impulsive move IMO. I don't think they thought things out carefully.

See as a DC fan I've been trained from their frustrating inaction to like impulsive moves. But I agree with you, I don't think it would be a bad idea to put this film off and just introduce the character in an X-Men film first. If that means losing Tatum then so be it.

This is a big problem that Fox has with the X-Men universe as opposed Marvel or DC. With the Avengers or Justice League, the characters are basically solo characters that have come together in a team. All but the most minor ones have their own backstories, supporting cast, villains, and niche in the group. The individual X-Men all basically share from the same pool.

Wolverine is developed enough to handle a solo film franchise, as is Deadpool. Cable probably can too. After that, things get iffy.

I actually think Gambit is probably one of the easier ones, as he tends to have a looser attachment to the main group than someone like Iceman or Cyclops.

Yeah it's harder to expand when your characters aren't solo characters.

 

[Majik1387]

Antman, who's better known for being one of the original and team starting Avengers, did just fine in a solo outing prior to a team movie. There's no reason Gambit can't have the same success.