Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It must be getting more than "touch ups" if Liman can continue signing on to different projects and putting them before Gambit.

 

[kevork89]

So it's set back again. It's better to do that then rush it.

To be honest it Fox were smart they'd test him out in a movie first. Maybe include him in Deadpool 2 or the next X-Men film. Set him up before the solo venture.

 

[micsin]

I'm worried Gambit may be dead in the water.

 

[Flint Marko]

I don't think so. It's not just an idea right now. It's getting script touch ups. There haven't been too many comic book movies announced and then scrapped. Ideas tossed around here and there but never start into anything and then scrapped. The only one I can think of is the justice league movies that started filming and the writers strike screwed that up. If it just gets canned now it won't look good over at Fox. Especially because they have a script, director and lead actor.

Like I said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong and I'll happily admit it. But I just don't think this is a priority for Fox.
Also, there's a long list of comic book movies that went through various stages of production that were ultimately scrapped. Batman Triumphant, Superman Lives, Superman: Flyby, Spider-man 4, Sinister Six, JL: Mortal, the list is quite long.

 

[kevork89]

I'm with you. I do think it can be scrapped. But I think since success of Deadpool and very middle reception to Apocalypse Fox are trying to figure out the next step. That is what I'm getting from the delays. If Fox were smart they'd just include him in the next Deadpool or hell even do Gambit and Rogue. Fly in before Marvel do Ant-Man and Wasp lol.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think both gambit and new mutants are In danger.both have directors who
arne't exactly making them top priority.

the idea of putting gambit in deadpool shows the problem with some's mentality.they want franchise to become deadpool &.it's like now screw the X-men films now

Gambit & Rogue is not going to happen for a film.only reason to do solo gambit
film is to devel into his history with thieves and assassins guilds.

To avoid flame wars I am going to stop mentioning MCU.This Is X-men section.

Whil i support idea of gambit film dealing with belladonna,and thieves & assassins guilds untill there is firm date with director who doesn't have other films lined up I question this film happening.

 

[x-er]

It'd be nice if fans had access to a universe that was plotted out and that had future movies announced. I feel the uncertainty discourages fans from keeping up with the series. The forums have been dead, and we just had a new installment a few weeks ago. It'd be nice to know where they're headed with everything.

 

[Sithborg]

You can only trust that "well planned" universe so far. I mean, it only gives fans confidence if you follow up on it. I would ask Capt Marvel, Black Panther, and Inhumans how that planned schedule worked out for them.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

People still don't understand how Marvel works, they always maintained it was fluid within parameters. Spin job at it's worst.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

You can only trust that "well planned" universe so far. I mean, it only gives fans confidence if you follow up on it. I would ask Capt Marvel, Black Panther, and Inhumans how that planned schedule worked out for them.

Things do change, but those films were all still years away and had no cast or crew attached. Gambit was still scheduled to come out this fall as recently as 6 months ago.

And now the director and lead actor are scheduling other films ahead of this one. If that doesn't set off alarms that a project that is danger of entering development hell, I don't know what does.

 

[Orba]

I think part of it could be the massive budget that was supposed to be attached to the production. After Deadpool I doubt Fox will want to spend that much when the box office expectations aren't that high. If the whole thing hasn't simply been tossed into the high grass I would think that it is being rewritten after having its budget halved.

 

[psylockolussus]

it was pretty obvious that Marvel Studios' plans were going to change, Fox and Sony changed their plans all the time. But Marvel's plans were changed because they got Spidey and Ant-Man got a sequel which are great things! They already got an actor for Black Panther and soon will cast Captain Marvel and guaranteed to appear in Infinity War. The only big question mark right now is Inhumans. Yeah Sithborg, you really gave a point when you compared this to the MCU once again.

 

[henzINNIT]

You can only trust that "well planned" universe so far. I mean, it only gives fans confidence if you follow up on it. I would ask Capt Marvel, Black Panther, and Inhumans how that planned schedule worked out for them.

Not to generalise X-Men fans too much, but I expect they would be overjoyed to experience date shifts similar to those in the MCU, where films slide a few months down an extensive list solely to make room for a few more anticipated films.

Fox have proven time and time again that they can barely see one film ahead, and whenever it seems as though they have gotten their act together, things will quickly fall apart.

Marvel have set an incredibly high standard in this regard. It's time another studio stepped up. I cannot fathom why it is so difficult for them.

 

[Smilodon]

A schedule of releases most definitely brings the hype. Imagine if Fox outlined phases out and promised to introduce a few characters. Considering the way the casting of Cable has generated hype thanks to Deadpool and how Black Panther has just blown up in the months following Civil War, I think Fox could most definitely learn a few things in terms of visibility.

Conversely however, Fox isn't just a comic book film studio so they can't just say they'll make a film when it's financially dependent on the success of another one. Especially when they've learned how pushing things without the right people in place inevitably leads to failure. Projects like The New Mutants and Gambit also more or less seemingly exist because of the people behind them and they probably don't have contingency plans in the event they bail too.

So while I think they don't need to outline their plans as detailed Marvel, they should reasonably talk about their projects and give more concrete things details out and try to generate hype/reassure fans by saying, "We'll introduce -insert team-" or "We plan to do -insert crossover-"

 

[Flint Marko]

If we've learned anything in the past few years, it's that Marvel operates very differently than other studios and every attempt to emulate that success has not ended well. Fox can't lay out a giant slate and they know it, so their best bet is to figure out what they want to do in the short-term and actually stick to it.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Your using conjecture. FOX clearly are just ignorant not incompetent. I think they could make slates out for multiple pictures but they just have yet to do so... maybe if New Mutants are successful they would feel confident enough to do so.

I think they have previously wanted to do something more world building but rights deals kind of prevented it with the FF/X-X-MEN crossover.

 

[Flint Marko]

They could lay out a slate for a few movies, but not one comparable to Marvel. Their "world-building" from here on out will consist of ancillary X-men properties. And if they were to do so, the odds that all of those movies would actually see the light of day aren't very high.

 

[x-er]

A schedule of releases most definitely brings the hype. Imagine if Fox outlined phases out and promised to introduce a few characters. Considering the way the casting of Cable has generated hype thanks to Deadpool and how Black Panther has just blown up in the months following Civil War, I think Fox could most definitely learn a few things in terms of visibility.

Conversely however, Fox isn't just a comic book film studio so they can't just say they'll make a film when it's financially dependent on the success of another one. Especially when they've learned how pushing things without the right people in place inevitably leads to failure. Projects like The New Mutants and Gambit also more or less seemingly exist because of the people behind them and they probably don't have contingency plans in the event they bail too.

So while I think they don't need to outline their plans as detailed Marvel, they should reasonably talk about their projects and give more concrete things details out and try to generate hype/reassure fans by saying, "We'll introduce -insert team-" or "We plan to do -insert crossover-"

Cable film! I'm already hyped!

I think they most definitely have a a franchise just as expansive as Marvel's Avengers. And what I feel they need right now a common thread, meaning, the films should all feel like they belong in the same universe. For that, they need someone putting everything together behind the scenes. You don't get that idea yet from watching the original films, First class, the Wolverine, Deadpool, Apocalypse, but I think they could still make something good of it.

 

[Frankeh]

The problem with the shared universe thing is that it's pointless when the mainline X-Men movies are in the past while stuff like Deadpool is in the present.

Frankly I don't know what I would do, what I do know is that I like the young X-Men too much to let them go, especially when they managed to be the best part of that weak movie. Everyone deserved better.

 

[x-er]

I'm with you. I do think it can be scrapped. But I think since success of Deadpool and very middle reception to Apocalypse Fox are trying to figure out the next step. That is what I'm getting from the delays. If Fox were smart they'd just include him in the next Deadpool or hell even do Gambit and Rogue. Fly in before Marvel do Ant-Man and Wasp lol.

Le sigh. So many missed opportunities. I mean, I find it so cool that Southern gals could have their superheroine. Southerners are somewhat stigmatized in the US and it would be pretty badass of Fox to start spreading that X-message to counteract that.

Nowadays, you have a lot of violence and discrimination against other minorities. Take the recent shootings at the Orlando gay bar. Where's Northstar Fox??? Believe it or not, your work impacts people's lives. Representing people positively on the big screen can really change viewpoints and boost minority respect and self-esteem.

 

[Matt.S99]

For a film series directed by an openly gay man, the lack of LGBT characters in a film series like X-Men is quite baffling.
I'm ready to see myself represented.

 

[x-er]

I believe he'x actually bi. as is paquin. and then page turned out to be gay, and McKellen is gay too (btw, can't wait to see him play alongside Hermione in Beauty and the Beast!!!).

So it seems he was looking out for LGBT actors. I'd say the content has more to do with the higher ups though.

 

[chamber-music]

Considering how much of a central character Mystique is in the X-Men films it is surprising they have not touched on her being bisexual.

 

[psylockolussus]

The problem with the shared universe thing is that it's pointless when the mainline X-Men movies are in the past while stuff like Deadpool is in the present.

Frankly I don't know what I would do, what I do know is that I like the young X-Men too much to let them go, especially when they managed to be the best part of that weak movie. Everyone deserved better.

Just tell the X-Men's stories in the present. And it doesn't matter if the cast is likable.... Apocalypse suffered from that because they wanted it to be final part of FC's trilogy and we just got more Magneto/Mystique stuff once again. They can't continue setting the X-Men films in the past just because they and the fans "like" the younger cast... when at the box-office, the numbers don't show up. And setting is important and it opens a bigger possibility for a Deadpool/X-Force cross-over without resorting to time-travel.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Apocalypse suffered from that because they wanted it to be final part of FC's trilogy and we just got more Magneto/Mystique stuff once again.

That is not why it suffered at all