Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[-JKR-]

It did okay overseas, it wasn't some huge success overseas either.

It did well.

But that shouldn't be any of our concerns, should it? We (the audience) should care about it being a good movie. And the lenghty development and rewrites didn't result in a bad movie in the case of Edge of Tomorrow.

 

[jaymes_e06]

You're all acting like a movie has never been rewritten. Doug Liman's Edge of Tomorrow actually went through numerous rewrites (and reshoots) and look how that turned out. Let's just sit back and relax, and wait for the team to be ready to go into production.

Don't dilute yourself into thinking this isn't at least a bit eyebrow raising.

 

[-JKR-]

Don't dilute yourself into thinking this isn't at least a bit eyebrow raising.

I don't think it's eyebrow raising. I'm glad they're taking their time and addressing any possible weaknesses before going into production, and that the studio is allowing them to do so.

People are mostly raising eyebrows (and hoping the delays will result in the movie not being made) because they were opposed to the project to begin with, either because they don't think Gambit deserves his own movie, or because they don't like the casting.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I don't think it's eyebrow raising. I'm glad they're taking their time and addressing any possible weaknesses before going into production, and that the studio is allowing them to do so.

People are mostly raising eyebrows (and hoping the delays will result in the movie not being made) because they were opposed to the project to begin with, either because they don't think Gambit deserves his own movie, or because they don't like the casting.

I think it is a good sign they are taking their time but it could also mean they will eventually give upon the film. It could go either way. I feel as long as what we get in the end is a good product I'll be happy but if they can't make it work let it go.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The wolverine also went through rewrites and deldeys.problem is some want this film to fail.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm sure that some want it to fail but I think accusing everyone who talks about the production problems of wanting it to fail is childish.

 

[Neno_Kos]

...which is the audience's problem, considering that it's a kick-ass movie. It did very well overseas, by the way.

It was one of best movies of the year. And it's damn shame didnt make more money and it wasnt movie fault. Remined me so much on Dreed. Fantastic movies, acting, script, directing. Only thing it lacked was proper PR marketing. And both movies did terrible job on it. And Deadpool for instance was fantastic example how PR marketing can affect movie on box office even if you made good movie.

If anything why I am optimistic for Gambit movie even with rewrites is exactly Edge of Tommorow's director Doug Liman. And when I looked in his producer and director work, I realized I liked majority of his films (Bourne Identity, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Jumper, Edge of Tommorow) .

 

[marvelrobbins]

I'm sure that some want it to fail but I think accusing everyone who talks about the production problems of wanting it to fail is childish.

X-men films have gone through change of directors and script rewrites in past.
Bellyacing over budget is pointless.i am glad fox is trying to get gambit right.

with doug liman this won't be another FF.since big part of that fiasco was incompent director.

WB could take a page from fox.trying to go into justice league like there were
no problems with BVS.or forcing reshoots for surcide squad to reportly add
more jokes or "Fun"

People need to accept Tatum Is the gambit of the X-Men cinematic universe.

 

[marvelrobbins]

It was one of best movies of the year. And it's damn shame didnt make more money and it wasnt movie fault. Remined me so much on Dreed. Fantastic movies, acting, script, directing. Only thing it lacked was proper PR marketing. And both movies did terrible job on it. And Deadpool for instance was fantastic example how PR marketing can affect movie on box office even if you made good movie.

If anything why I am optimistic for Gambit movie even with rewrites is exactly Edge of Tommorow's director Doug Liman. And when I looked in his producer and director work, I realized I liked majority of his films (Bourne Identity, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Jumper, Edge of Tommorow) .

Liman as director is great for gambit.he even has history of taking a kinberg script and making a successful film out of it-mr and mrs smith.

remember he launched jason Bourne franchise.and edge of tommorow great sci fi flick.if it had been as successful domesticly as it was overseas more would be prasing liman as director.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

X-men films have gone through change of directors and script rewrites in past.
Bellyacing over budget is pointless.i am glad fox is trying to get gambit right.

with doug liman this won't be another FF.since big part of that fiasco was incompent director.

WB could take a page from fox.trying to go into justice league like there were
no problems with BVS.or forcing reshoots for surcide squad to reportly add
more jokes or "Fun"

People need to accept Tatum Is the gambit of the X-Men cinematic universe.

You aren't hurting my fees fees by talking about WB.

Look through my recent posting history and look at my signature.

 

[marvelrobbins]

You aren't hurting my fees fees my talking about WB.

Look through my recent posting history and look at my signature.

well while we have disagreements i wouldn't put you in just hating gambit all over nothing.and with WB we basicly agree.they are making huge mistake
just continuing like everything is great.BVS to be blunt is WB's last stand.and
Snyder is their ratner.and problem is they aren't smart enough to realize
the problem.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

well while we have disagreements i wouldn't put you in just hating gambit all over nothing.and with WB we basicly agree.they are making huge mistake
just continuing like everything is great.BVS to be blunt is WB's last stand.and
Snyder is their ratner.and problem is they aren't smart enough to realize
the problem.

I couldn't agree more. Fox were smart enough to not keep Ratner on despite his film making money.

Gambit I believe will happen in the future and as I've said, it's better to take time to get it right than to rush and get it wrong like Last Stand and Fantastic Four. Deadpool was a good film that as far as I know was respectful to the most popular version of the source material. Fox should do that with Gambit and make a good film of course.

 

[-JKR-]

I'm sure that some want it to fail but I think accusing everyone who talks about the production problems of wanting it to fail is childish.

That's not what I was hinting at.

But there's been huge negativity around this project when it was announced on message boards and comments sections, and many people (not everyone who talks about production problems) who are giddy with excitement whenever there's a report of it being pushed back.

And Doug Liman is known for being a tinkerer, with his projects in constant flux until he's happy with the results. So this doesn't strike me as any worse than other cases where movies were being rewritten until the crew was ready to go.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Should Gambit become an X-Man before his solo film?

 

[Mike Murdock]

I know there are reasons to do it that way. My preference is no because I'd be far more interested in a Gambit movie back when he was part of the Thieves Guild (and I'd prefer it not to be a prequel).

 

[Neptune]

I definitely want to see Gambit in an X-men film before he gets his own one. His interactions with Storm, Deadpool, Rogue, Charles, Wolverine etc. are great ways to show different sides of his character. Showing his thievesguild origin is awesome, but it will be even more so once he's actually established as an full fledged X-man.

Now i don't have a problem Fox making a Gambit solo movie, i just have a problem with Channing Tatum. I don't care how much he likes the character, i don't care how nice he is in real life, HE'S NOT RIGHT FOR THE ROLE!

 

[kevork89]

Ummmm how exactly is he not right for the role? How can you judge when you haven't seen his interpretation of the character. Like hello we've seen this kind of attitude towards actors in these roles before. Heath Ledger as Joker, Christian Bale and Ben Affleck both as Batman, Chris Evans as Cap, RDJ as Iron Man, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. People had all said they're not right for the role.

 

[Neptune]

I've seen him in different movies and never was impressed with his performance. Those actors you mentioned nailed at least one role prior to them being cast as a superhero/villain. Also, Tatum doesn't look anything like Gambit, not to me at least.

Sure, it's all subjective but i really doubt he'll be able to pull it off. Gambit is a paradoxical character, charismatic yet a loner, charming yet ruthless, arrogant yet self loathing, a scoundrel yet a gentleman etc. Do you really believe in your heart of hearts Channing tatum is the man for this job?

And to be honost, Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne was meh.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Tatum's Cajun accent in Hateful Eight convinced me he can do it

 

[kevork89]

I've seen him in different movies and never was impressed with his performance. Those actors you mentioned nailed at least one role prior to them being cast as a superhero/villain. Also, Tatum doesn't look anything like Gambit, not to me at least.

Sure, it's all subjective but i really doubt he'll be able to pull it off. Gambit is a paradoxical character, charismatic yet a loner, charming yet ruthless, arrogant yet self loathing, a scoundrel yet a gentleman etc. Do you really believe in your heart of hearts Channing tatum is the man for this job?

And to be honost, Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne was meh.

Yes I do believe Channing is right for the role. My presumption is movies you've seen him in have been more like G.I Joe, 21/22 Jump Street, Jupiter Ascending etc but have you seen him in The Son of No One, Foxcatcher, Stop-Loss, Battle in Seattle etc where he takes on more serious roles. He's a very good actor. And the other more comedic/action movies have propelled him to stardom. I mean the Cohen brothers just used him in one of their movies and Tarantino too. He's definitely got the talent and all of those things you listed well I don't even know if the writers are gonna make Gambit all of those things. He's been working on his Gambit character for a few years now and he has even more time to perfect it.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Tatum's Cajun accent in Hateful Eight convinced me he can do it

I was just going with the one from the Cajun Night Before Christmas, but, yeah, it sold me completely.

 

[Smilodon]

http://heroichollywood.com/gambit-delayed-script-get-films-tone-production-start-end-year/

Some good news regarding Gambit. Trying to Deadpool the thing in terms of being faithful.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Eh...

 

[JP]

Looking forward to that disposable plot!

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Just make Gambit a double agent for Sinister who infiltrates the X-Men. But ends up joining the team and finds a home