Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 3

[chaseter]

Jamie pokes his sister...he is not the hero of the show.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Hey, that sort of arrangement is not exactly out of the question for royalty. More importantly, they are twins (twincest anyone).

It's good people don't like him. It'll make the realization that he is one of THE great heroes of the story. Wait till the epic quest begins.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Tell that to SW fans in reference Darth Vader.

To be fair, he killed his mentor in a fair duel. He didn't behead him rather crappily. Though I never bought Darth Vader's so-called redemption.

 

[Stringer]

Could it possibly be a line the same character uses often in the book?

You like hearing "Hulk Smash" on screen after reading it in text for years?

Well I don't know, which is why I was asking. The condescending tone isn't necessary.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Well I don't know, which is why I was asking. The condescending tone isn't necessary.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way man. But the logical assumption
since quite a few of us were geeking out on it was that it was something we were waiting for. just like Hodor.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

As I understood it, the ranger didn't deserted but fled from the WW and maybe warn the people.
Anyway, it wasn't a straight comparison of the two characters just my point of view on the "killings".

He was a deserter, he even says "I know I'm a deserter. I know I broke my oath."

Hey, that sort of arrangement is not exactly out of the question for royalty. More importantly, they are twins (twincest anyone).

The Lannisters aren't royalty and twincest just makes it worse. I don't hate Jaime, but I don't give him a pass for the twincest.

 

[Dangerman]

Did they say who is playing Ramsay yet?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Actually, only really the Pharaohs married siblings. Romans married their nieces. During Medieval Times everyone was into their cousin.

 

[Stringer]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way man. But the logical assumption
since quite a few of us were geeking out on it was that it was something we were waiting for. just like Hodor.

It's good. I actually did assume that, but I figured there may have been more to it than that with the reverence people had for the line.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

It wouldn't hurt for them to remind us that there is a threat beyond the Wall by showing one.

We've seen them twice already.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Did they say who is playing Ramsay yet?

There was mention of it like a week ago. Personally I'm excited to see them both even if by the time they introduce them

Spoiler

the real Reek might be gone.

 

[OsGom]

I liked the awkward Tyrion and Cersei scene. Touching yet uncomfortable.

Although I half expect Tyrion to say at some point."Hey Sis, how about throwing some of that sisterly love my way?!"

Cersei isn't doing much to conceal her dark little secret anymore. I was under the impression if Tywin were to find out about Cersei and Jamie there would be hell to pay.

Daenerys remains one of my favorite characters. She is just a child trying to deal with this impossible destiny that has been set before her. It is requiring her to do a lot of growing up in a very short time.

The look on her face when she realized she was being used as a pawn in Xaro Xhoan Daxos' scheme was priceless.

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Looking foward to Drogon burning down the den of the Warlocks and the introduction of Strong Belwas and Arstan Whitebeard.
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Next season will be insane!

 

[Thundercrack85]

I assume this season will end with Stannis launching a full-scale invasion on King's Landing.

 

[ChickenScratch]

My money is on The Battle Of King's Landing itself.

 

[Thundercrack85]

If they only have two episodes left, they better hurry.

 

[Poeman]

Anyone know the music used in the end credits of the last episode?

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

I assume this season will end with Stannis launching a full-scale invasion on King's Landing.

It'll happen in episode 9 titled "Blackwater"

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

I was under the impression if Tywin were to find out about Cersei and Jamie there would be hell to pay.

I'm not so sure about that. Tywin is clearly smart as hell, and if everyone in the Council knew that Joffrey was a product of twincest based purely on looks alone, then Tywin likely knows it as well. I mean, the books don't have him comment on it or anything, but I would be disappointed if they reveal he actually didn't know.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

The whole Night's Watch thing is pretty silly. Just sitting there, waiting for something to happen. But, I assume once the bogeymen beyond the wall finally do make their move (probably circa season 11 at this rate), they'll finally get to do something.

It wouldn't hurt for them to remind us that there is a threat beyond the Wall by showing one.

There will be action with the Wights and WW in season 3, you will only have to wait another year for it

 

[rashad]

Will we see Dany go into the House of the Undying?! I've read that some very interesting stuff happens there!

 

[DACrowe]

Not to be rude but I disagree with Game of Thrones being an 'original show' in any sense of the phrase. It's a TV adaptation (moreover, it's one that sticks close to the source material) and thus by its very definition, a copy. Moreover, the show is often described as The Sopranos set in Middle Earth. Yes, it's a novel combination but not an original concept. It simply borrows from multiple sources.

You're arguing semantics. Is there any show like Game of Thrones on television now or before? No. The only series I can think of that comes close to its narrative structure is The Wire. But that was about the social decay of American urbanism and not a fantasy series that explores entirely different themes. GOT is unlike anything on television, so for TV programming, it is original.

Back to your question about why adapt and deviate. The benefit of this is that you gain the world-building, politics and history of the setting; plus the characters as how they first started out. Reinterpreting and deviating from the source provide people with something fresh and new, unpredictable twists, while still remaining familiar.

It is worth mentioning that every successful TV adaptation to date has taken this approach of deviating from the original source material. Sticking to the source material presents logistical issues, make it less enticing for higher caliber writers (who'd rather tell their own stories than someone else's) and makes one's twists and reveals fall flat since anyone who wants to find out what happens next can easily do so online. All this on top of the aforementioned scripting issues. Meanwhile, I can't think of any upsides of restricting oneself in this way. In other words, from a developmental standpoint, there's no benefit to sticking closely to the source material instead of picking and choosing what you want to use.

Except that's what they're doing. I don't see your point. They're changing and adapting the story as needs-be for the limitations of television. They're still staying true to the overarching plot, because the intricate plot is what makes GOT unique. They'll adapt it to their sensibilities, pay-cable's, and the logistics and budgeting of TV, but they're not going to ditch the story all-together because then it just becomes a pointless endeavour to start.

 

[rashad]

If they only have two episodes left, they better hurry.

There's 3 more episodes not 2.

 

[DACrowe]

Jamie pokes his sister...he is not the hero of the show.

I am saying right now that you won't be able to say that with a straight face by the end of Season 4. Especially by the fifth or sixth season as well.

 

[Thundercrack85]

What's he do? Kill Joffrey?

 

[flickchick85]

Jaime definitely takes a turn. He's one of my favorite characters of the whole damn series, and yes, I do consider him heroic.