Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 4

[ChickenScratch]

Thanks for your description Darth Skywalker, but the below one made me remember him.
Yes this makes me remember him now, shame we never got to see him in action, does he come into the story again at all?

Spoiler

He joins up with Dany.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Spoiler

He joins up with Dany.

Why would you write that? Seriously? Come on. All you had to say was he reappears. That is it.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I'd imagine that's why he wrapped spoiler tags around it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And when the person looks to see if he returns, everything will be spoiled.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Could it be, can it be....we are actually going to get a GOT war scene ON screen??

Can't wait!

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

There are a billion characters. Not everyone is going to remember the names of each one, from season to season...especially if they don't appear for long stretches.

I feel that way reading the books as well, there are so many references to a million characters that seldom see time in the books it's ridiculous.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05/23/game-of-thrones-season-2-soundtrack-details/

Season ending cliffhanger confirmed, can't wait.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

That's gonna be ****ing amazing. So glad they're putting that at the end of this season instead of the beginning of season 3 like it was in the book. Considering ASOS had an epilogue, I think GRRM would probably make the prologue of ASOS the epilogue of ACOK if he wrote it today.

 

[DACrowe]

The more I think about it, the more I don't think one hour will be enough to cover everything they're leaving for episode 10:

Spoiler

-The burning of Winterfell.
-Robb marrying Talisa and breaking it to his mother.
-Some follow-up on Jaime and Brienne.
-Fall-out in King's Landing.
-Ser Dontos is likely going to appear to Sansa.
-Jon is going to have to fight Quorin to the death and convince the Lord of Bones to take him to Mance Rayder.
-Jaqen meeting up with Arya and giving that storyline closure.
-Three blasts and the Battle for the Fist of the First Men.
-And oh yeah, freaking House of the Undying as well as Dany's escape.

I hope they're allowed to make it a 90 minute episode or something to do all those plot threads justice for the finale.

 

[Roose Bolton]

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05/23/game-of-thrones-season-2-soundtrack-details/

Season ending cliffhanger confirmed, can't wait.

"Valar Morguhlis" is Jaqen's theme I assume, which was fairly good.
"Warrior of Light" was creepy as all hell.
From what we've heard I think the Greyjoy theme heard during Balon's speech and briefly again when Asha (Yara) tries to convince Theon to come home is probably my personal favorite...I'm guessing that's "What is dead may never die" ?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The more I think about it, the more I don't think one hour will be enough to cover everything they're leaving for episode 10:

Spoiler

-The burning of Winterfell.
-Robb marrying Talisa and breaking it to his mother.
-Some follow-up on Jaime and Brienne.
-Fall-out in King's Landing.
-Ser Dontos is likely going to appear to Sansa.
-Jon is going to have to fight Quorin to the death and convince the Lord of Bones to take him to Mance Rayder.
-Jaqen meeting up with Arya and giving that storyline closure.
-Three blasts and the Battle for the Fist of the First Men.
-And oh yeah, freaking House of the Undying as well as Dany's escape.

I hope they're allowed to make it a 90 minute episode or something to do all those plot threads justice for the finale.

I don't know

Spoiler

The two things that will take up the most time are the House of the Undying (which may be a really abridged version) and the sack of Winterfell which could still be next season. Jon has to fight Qhorin, too. The others can be really quick. Couple mins on Jaime and Brienne, Jaqen with Arya, Robb's wedding could just be some small, secret thing and we see it but Robb not mention it to Cat or his men until next season. Next week may include some wrap-up of King's Landing since the whole episode is devoted to it. Ser Dontos doesn't have to appear since they have all next season to introduce him again. I think they can fit it all in.

 

[rayc1971]

The more I think about it, the more I don't think one hour will be enough to cover everything they're leaving for episode 10:

Spoiler

-The burning of Winterfell.
-Robb marrying Talisa and breaking it to his mother.
-Some follow-up on Jaime and Brienne.
-Fall-out in King's Landing.
-Ser Dontos is likely going to appear to Sansa.
-Jon is going to have to fight Quorin to the death and convince the Lord of Bones to take him to Mance Rayder.
-Jaqen meeting up with Arya and giving that storyline closure.
-Three blasts and the Battle for the Fist of the First Men.
-And oh yeah, freaking House of the Undying as well as Dany's escape.

I hope they're allowed to make it a 90 minute episode or something to do all those plot threads justice for the finale.

we already know its a hour episode they already shot it i thought they should have did 90 minutes for the first episode

 

[Matt]

The more I think about it, the more I don't think one hour will be enough to cover everything they're leaving for episode 10:

Spoiler

-The burning of Winterfell.
-Robb marrying Talisa and breaking it to his mother.
-Some follow-up on Jaime and Brienne.
-Fall-out in King's Landing.
-Ser Dontos is likely going to appear to Sansa.
-Jon is going to have to fight Quorin to the death and convince the Lord of Bones to take him to Mance Rayder.
-Jaqen meeting up with Arya and giving that storyline closure.
-Three blasts and the Battle for the Fist of the First Men.
-And oh yeah, freaking House of the Undying as well as Dany's escape.

I hope they're allowed to make it a 90 minute episode or something to do all those plot threads justice for the finale.

Wait, you mean that they have too much to cover and not enough time to do it in? If only they wasted less time giving the audience unnecessary/previously known information in the earlier episodes and showing Joffrey torturing hookers. But no one could've seen the repetitive and slow pacing becoming a problem could they?

Anyway....I like the Onion Knight, I think that he is currently my favorite character, sans Tyrion. He is one of the few likable ones left on the show.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Most of it was necessary. Most of what DACrowe mentioned wouldn't even take that long anyway.

 

[Matt]

Only if you're using the book as a reference point. My contention is (and always has been) that they need to cut some of the less necessary "necessary," plots and characters to make the narrative tighter.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Which they have done. If you've read the book, not only would you see that but you'd also know what is necessary and what isn't. No sense in arguing this with you since you're stubborn as a mule about it.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Why would you write that? Seriously? Come on. All you had to say was he reappears. That is it.

Why would you open the spoiler if you didnt want the answer. Don't ask, wait and see, or read the books.

 

[Matt]

Which they have done. If you've read the book, not only would you see that but you'd also know what is necessary and what isn't. No sense in arguing this with you since you're stubborn as a mule about it.

Not really, I'm just not obsessively snobbish about the source material. I'd rather see a well crafted, well paced story, with likable characters that fits the medium than one that goes 8 weeks with nothing happening aside from unlikable old men sitting in rooms talking that stays "loyal," to the source.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

It's better than The Walking Dead

 

[Infinity9999x]

Not really, I'm just not obsessively snobbish about the source material. I'd rather see a well crafted, well paced story, with likable characters that fits the medium than one that goes 8 weeks with nothing happening aside from unlikable old men sitting in rooms talking that stays "loyal," to the source.

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is with the pacing. I'm left eager to know what happens after each episode. It's easily one of the best shows on TV right now. And you would really want to cut the scene where Joffrey is torturing the girls? That was a great scene, it really showed his creepiness and how screwed up this kid is. More so then anything else he had done.

I keep seeing people on here complaining about the pacing of GOT or Walking Dead, and while I will conceade that both can be a bit slow (TWD was definitely very slow for the first half of season 2) I would still take slower paced shows with great character development over a show that moves at a fast pace and ends up destroying any semblance of character development for shock value (like what happend to Heroes.)

 

[Matt]

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is with the pacing. I'm left eager to know what happens after each episode. It's easily one of the best shows on TV right now. And you would really want to cut the scene where Joffrey is torturing the girls? That was a great scene, it really showed his creepiness and how screwed up this kid is. More so then anything else he had done.

I keep seeing people on here complaining about the pacing of GOT or Walking Dead, and while I will conceade that both can be a bit slow (TWD was definitely very slow for the first half of season 2) I would still take slower paced shows with great character development over a show that moves at a fast pace and ends up destroying any semblance of character development for shock value (like what happend to Heroes.)

But shows like Boardwalk Empire, Castle and White Collar show that a happy medium is possible.

 

[DACrowe]

Wait, you mean that they have too much to cover and not enough time to do it in? If only they wasted less time giving the audience unnecessary/previously known information in the earlier episodes and showing Joffrey torturing hookers. But no one could've seen the repetitive and slow pacing becoming a problem could they?

Anyway....I like the Onion Knight, I think that he is currently my favorite character, sans Tyrion. He is one of the few likable ones left on the show.

You'll like to hear that I'd agree with your criticism for episode 8. I thought it was very weak and should have moved the story along further.

 

[ChickenScratch]

But shows like Boardwalk Empire, Castle and White Collar show that a happy medium is possible.

Same rules don't apply universally. They can't adapt everything by the same rules to satiate one fanboy with a dislike for detail. The story takes as long as it takes, it's not like those other shows you mentioned are books or people go in knowing the material beforehand.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

 

[Infinity9999x]

But shows like Boardwalk Empire, Castle and White Collar show that a happy medium is possible.

I haven't seen Boardwalk Empire (but I want to, I've heard it's good.) I do really enjoy Castle and White Collar though. I'm about half a season behind on both and plan to catch up now that the summer's started. However, I think the main difference is that WC and Castle are both fomulaic shows. They're based on a formula that they repeat each week, and each episode has small advancements to a main over-arching plot. These shows have "endgame" plots. There is no endgame in a show like TWD. TWD and GOT focus much more of their time on character development. Heck, in TWD's case, its focus is solely on character development. Castle and White Collar do a great job of mixing in character development with their daily "con of the week" or "mystery of the week" but they have that formula to fall back on.

And don't get me wrong, I love me some good formula shows. (I was an avid House watcher for most of it's run). But TWD and GOT are very different kinds of shows. I don't expect that kind of pace with either of the shows because they aren't the same kind of show.

But I give you props for your tase in television. Caste and White Collar are two of my favorites.