Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 4

[chaseter]

There is big talk that everyone who isn't involved with Blackwater is going to be absent next week. So the HotU probably isn't happening until the finale.

They aren't going to show a 50 minute battle. I would guess the first half of the ep is King's Landing preparing for battle and Stannis arriving. They will probably show Arya's current whereabouts, Jaimie Lannister's current whereabouts, John Snow's current whereabouts, and/or Rob's men taking back Winterfell (some or all of those will also be in the final ep). I would guess they end the ep with Dany entering the HotU.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They aren't going to show a 50 minute battle. I would guess the first half of the ep is King's Landing preparing for battle and Stannis arriving. They will probably show Arya's current whereabouts, Jaimie Lannister's current whereabouts, John Snow's current whereabouts, and/or Rob's men taking back Winterfell (some or all of those will also be in the final ep). I would guess they end the ep with Dany entering the HotU.

Who is John Snow? t:

What has been hinted at by the D&D and even GRRM who wrote the episode, is that Blackwater is indeed all about Blackwater. It isn't simply a battle. There is the pre-battle, the battle, all the stuff going on around King's Landing during the battle (Sansa) and the coda.

We are going to be following Tyrion, Sansa, the Hound, Joffery, Cersei, Davos, Stannis, Varys, and Bronn.

And it makes sense when you read the synopsis for the final two episodes of the season and what the actors have been saying about how the season ends for them.

Most of everyone's arc is done or even has passed up their book equivalent. Only Dany, Theon and Jon have somethings to do and that is all mentioned in the final episode's synopsis. Most of the other things that would occur seems quite difficult considering the holding off of casting those parts until next season.

It is possible, but at this point I think it is unlikely we will see anything outside of King's Landing.

He is the episode's "Previously On".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YieTh_wwIcE&feature=plcp

It screams only Blackwater.

 

[DACrowe]

Can we get a golf clap going for Robb? The Young Wolf just made it with the finest backside it Westeros and that is saying something.

Good for Robb. But politically, he is behaving stupidly, in my opinion. I guess he really is Ned and Catelyn's son.

 

[DACrowe]

They aren't going to show a 50 minute battle. I would guess the first half of the ep is King's Landing preparing for battle and Stannis arriving. They will probably show Arya's current whereabouts, Jaimie Lannister's current whereabouts, John Snow's current whereabouts, and/or Rob's men taking back Winterfell (some or all of those will also be in the final ep). I would guess they end the ep with Dany entering the HotU.

I highly doubt we're going to see Jaime/Brienne, Jon Snow or anything at Winterfell next week. I expect maybe a teaser of Arya on the run at the beginning of the episode and Dany entering the House of the Undying at the end. The rest of the episode will be KL. i do agree that it won't begin with the battle. But I suspect, given how much needs to happen during it, it will probably start by the 15-minute mark of the episode.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Considering how Blackwater ends, I don't see why it isn't how the episode itself will end.

Good for Robb. But politically, he is behaving stupidly, in my opinion. I guess he really is Ned and Catelyn's son.

Forget politics. The doc is far too fine to even consider politics in this situation.

 

[rashad]

Game Of Thrones Season 2: Episode 19 - Battle Tease
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[Asteroid-Man]

Game Of Thrones Season 2: Episode 19 - Battle Tease
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[Havok83]

To think that the actor portraying Joffrey is actually 20.

really? Wow and I thought he was like 14/15

 

[Bruce Malone]

I know the season is not over yet but anyone else get the feeling that the 1st season was the better out of the two?

I still enjoy the show but i had high hopes for season 2 and thought it would really improve over season 1 as most shows do in their second season. I remember some very epic episodes by this point last year. This whole season seems to be mostly just setting things up, which is actually what i thought the 1st season was for.

 

[Nevincer]

Am I the only one that felt what Catelyn did was really stupid?

 

[mr. peasant]

I know the season is not over yet but anyone else get the feeling that the 1st season was the better out of the two?

I still enjoy the show but i had high hopes for season 2 and thought it would really improve over season 1 as most shows do in their second season. I remember some very epic episodes by this point last year. This whole season seems to be mostly just setting things up, which is actually what i thought the 1st season was for.

This is likely because Season 1's simpler story/plot allowed for better pacing. One event flowed organically to the next and the various subplots (barring the Dothraki and White Walker storylines) came together towards the final third of the season. As such, it was convergent storytelling rather than divergent; allowing us to appreciate why certain events took place in the story

This isn't the case for Season 2 where supposed main characters are becoming increasingly scattered and become absent for long stretches of a time. All this contributes to a feeling of less build-up and tension - i.e. we don't feel that Robb is winning or that Stannis' fleet is getting near, etc.

In short, you're right - Season 1 was a much more polished story.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah but what can they do about it? If they rewrite it, it could be inferior, and book fans will complain. If they don't, well, the show suffers.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Am I the only one that felt what Catelyn did was really stupid?

I'm not even sure I understand her plan. Is she trying to trade him? If so, seems like a lot to trust Brienne with (takes a lot of competency). Because simply sending him to King's Landing, or to Tywin is an even dumber idea.

 

[Marvolo]

In the book, Catelyn makes an agreement that Brienne will escort Jaime to Kings Landing where upon his honor he is bound to trade himself for Sansa and Arya. Stupid, you say? Why, yes it is.

 

[mr. peasant]

Yeah but what can they do about it? If they rewrite it, it could be inferior, and book fans will complain. If they don't, well, the show suffers.

Hence my belief that the creators never should have remained faithful to the books - especially once past the first season (which primarily served as setup for the show's central conflict over the Iron Throne and which still had a straightforward enough plotline and character distribution to be amenable as a faithful adaptation) - and back themselves into a corner like that.

Yeah but what can they do about it? If they rewrite it, it could be inferior, and book fans will complain. If they don't, well, the show suffers.

It was a decision borne of desperation; which while arguably suitable for the book version of the character due to the time spent explaining the decision and insight to the character's mind, it is less so for the TV version of Catelyn who comes across with a steelier resolve.

 

[Thundercrack85]

In the book, Catelyn makes an agreement that Brienne will escort Jaime to Kings Landing where upon his honor he is bound to trade himself for Sansa and Arya. Stupid, you say? Why, yes it is.

Didn't she just go on a rant about how he has no honor in that very episode. And aren't these the same people who went back on their word, and cut her husband's head off?

Safe to say this will end well.

 

[FVD]

Who is John Snow? t:

What has been hinted at by the D&D and even GRRM who wrote the episode, is that Blackwater is indeed all about Blackwater. It isn't simply a battle. There is the pre-battle, the battle, all the stuff going on around King's Landing during the battle (Sansa) and the coda.

We are going to be following Tyrion, Sansa, the Hound, Joffery, Cersei, Davos, Stannis, Varys, and Bronn.

And it makes sense when you read the synopsis for the final two episodes of the season and what the actors have been saying about how the season ends for them.

Most of everyone's arc is done or even has passed up their book equivalent. Only Dany, Theon and Jon have somethings to do and that is all mentioned in the final episode's synopsis. Most of the other things that would occur seems quite difficult considering the holding off of casting those parts until next season.

It is possible, but at this point I think it is unlikely we will see anything outside of King's Landing.

He is the episode's "Previously On".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YieTh_wwIcE&feature=plcp

It screams only Blackwater.

I for one does hope that the Season Finale would at least show [blackout]Bran and Rickon being alive and with Maester Luwin being relieved before he dies.[/blackout]

 

[Roose Bolton]

Didn't she just go on a rant about how he has no honor in that very episode. And aren't these the same people who went back on their word, and cut her husband's head off?

Safe to say this will end well.

Well it's more Tyrion she's putting her faith in, remember he did send her back Ned's bones.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I for one does hope that the Season Finale would at least show [blackout]Bran and Rickon being alive and with Maester Luwin being relieved before he dies.[/blackout]

Spoiler

This happened in the latest episode did it not?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Despite being slow I enjoyed this episode, we at least got to spend some time with Robb and Jon, who are the characters I find the most interesting. Tyrrion is always gold as well.

 

[FVD]

Spoiler

This happened in the latest episode did it not?

I haven't watched it yet lol!!

 

[Pink Ranger]

Not having read the books, who are the three men in the known kingdoms that Jamie speculated could actually best him in combat? Is it just a throwaway line or is it covered in the books?

 

[Crockett]

Not having read the books, who are the three men in the known kingdoms that Jamie speculated could actually best him in combat? Is it just a throwaway line or is it covered in the books?

I don't recall that in the books but Barristan Selmy is definitely one (excellent knight during his prime and considered one of the greatest, not to mention Jaime respects the man), maybe Gregor since he's huge (well not in the TV show he's not ) and the last one, I'm not sure but I'd say Oberyn Martell also known as the Red Viper (he held himself up pretty well against someone in ASOS).

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I know two are Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) and Sandor Clegane (The Hound), he mentions both are stronger than him. The third is likely Barristan Selmy who is the greatest living knight in Westeros and the last true knight.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Something I don't understand from the previous episode : Theon knew the Stark boys right ? So how does he not realize that he killed the wrong children or he just faked their death to look "badass" ?