Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 4

[Project862006]

Anyone else really like the shot of the royal throne room destroyed and covered in snow? If that isn't foreshadowing I don't know what is. It gets me even more exited to find out where this story is going to end.

was that the iron throne she was touching and staring at?

thats what i thought it was

 

[DACrowe]

I liked the finale overall. It wasn't completely a barn of loose threads like True Blood usually does, though it wasn't full of closure (as this story never is). The stand outs, besides the Whitewakers, was Jaqen's cool change of appearance, Tyrion getting the shaft (sucks for the audience/Tyrion, but it makes so much sense in this world), Sansa enjoying her moment of "freedom" and Robb behaving like a bloody fool. I also really liked Theon's big speech and how they turned that there.

My only complaints are really to do with Dany's story. I actually like how they did HOTU on a budget for the most part. No we didn't get that clue to that major thing the fans all theorize about, but the use of Drogo and her would-be son, the throne room in winter, etc. was effective. What was not, was her escape. After so much build up (most of the season) to this bloody house, the way she escaped was way too easy and quite disappointing. I can understand if they couldn't have the dragons burn down the whole bloody house, but then the writers should have been more inventive and found some clever way for her to free herself beyond doing the obvious.

Also, I'm not one to complain about most changes from the books because I understand the changes of mediums, but tonight added one more change (up to three for the year) I really hated. It was Doreah betraying Dany and helping Xaro, followed by Dany burying her alive. Doreah was the one who helped Dany get Drogo's respect and love. In the book she died in the Red Waste and Dany stopped the march a whole day to comfort Doreah. Why keep her alive just to kill her here as a traitor? Especially with Irri gone (the other handmaiden whose still alive and well in the books), they're cutting away Dany's confidants. I'm also really surprised they killed off both Doreah and Irri given you'd think they'd put that scene from the third book in a show like this.

 

[DACrowe]

My problem with this finale is the same as my problem with last year's finale. It is incredibly underwhelming compared to the penultimate episode. Basically it was just tying up some loose ends here and there. The big grand finales were (like last year), while visually impressive were two story lines that I give no **** about because they are so disconnected from the main plot. On a good week we spend maybe ten minutes with Jon and Dany and for the most part it has either been Jon wandering around the snow aimlessly or Dany overacting with her eyebrows and ranting about being the mother of dragons. It is hard to feel connected to them or feel satisfaction over Dany's triumph or fear for the wall's pending danger.

Actually agree with you on Dany this season!

Disagree with you on Jon's story.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Honestly, I like the disconnected stories. It's like seeing an actual novel brought to life on screen. Heroes did it effectively (in season 1). Now, yes, the end of S1 tied all the stories together. But obviously this series has a longer end game in mind.

And I like that. It's different. Each individual plot line keeps moving along, and I stay interested. I really don't see what the problem is with it. It's just a different way of story telling.

 

[chaseter]

Dany is slowly building up...it's a slow burn to her eventually storming King's Landing with full grown dragons. That will be her climax as far as I can see as I haven't read the books.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Honestly, I like the disconnected stories. It's like seeing an actual novel brought to life on screen. Heroes did it effectively (in season 1). Now, yes, the end of S1 tied all the stories together. But obviously this series has a longer end game in mind.

And I like that. It's different. Each individual plot line keeps moving along, and I stay interested. I really don't see what the problem is with it. It's just a different way of story telling.

Yup. I always think of the3 first time I read Rainbow 6 by Clancy. Aside from the main plot there was another story going on, but when it did come into play it was huge.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The episode felt extremely anti-climatic after the epic last episode.

I don't know if that's a book thing, but they really should have made the events of the previous episode the cliffhanger. Maybe spread them out across two episodes. Oh well, I enjoyed it anyway.

 

[Poeman]

both seasons ended on a shrieking roar sound

 

[chaseter]

How was it anticlimactic? What did you want to see? It's how every serial tv show ever is. The climax of the season happens in the episode before the last or at the beginning of the final episode, then things breathe a bit, and then they have a cliff hanger for next season.

 

[DACrowe]

Both seasons do this. They hit their biggest punch in episode 9 (Jaime captured and Joffrey executing Ned Stark/The Battle of Blackwater Bay) and then spend episode 10 giving mini-closure to the many plot threads and gearing viewers up for a new slate next season with a few twists to keep it memorable (Tyrion is made hand, Arya goes into hiding as a boy, Jon goes beyond the Wall and Dany's dragons are born/Tyrion loses his handship, Robb breaks his oath and marries for love, Dany kills all her enemies in Qarth, and Jon Snow becomes a wildling as Whitewalkers descend on his brothers).

I actually think it works for this particular series because both episode 9s end so abruptly that it would leave people furious to wait a year before there is any follow-up on what comes next. There needs to be a bit of a decompression like a good novel. A denouement. That's what episode 10 is for in this series.

And trust me when I say that if episode 9 ends where all the readers are pretty sure it will next year, you will be screaming for a follow-up episode as opposed to waiting a year.

 

[hobo123]

So what was with Bran's dreams?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think my favorite bit was Ygritte basically trying to anger Jon into saving himself. She so clearly likes him.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So what was with Bran's dreams?

Those look like dreams to you?

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

So Houses of Undying was simply too ambitious for the show to adapt, oh well.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So Houses of Undying was simply too ambitious for the show to adapt, oh well.

I really liked what they did. Drogo broke my heart.

I also like how they showed that Winter is indeed coming and that Dany didn't touch the throne. It isn't her's imo.

 

[hobo123]

Those look like dreams to you?

More like visions I guess but still, I was surprised they didn't show anything about them in the finale.

 

[rayc1971]

I really liked what they did. Drogo broke my heart.

I also like how they showed that Winter is indeed coming and that Dany didn't touch the throne. It isn't her's imo.

i wondered why dany didnt touch the throne its all she talks about.what do you guys think about theon was that reek/ramsay all along?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

More like visions I guess but still, I was surprised they didn't show anything about them in the finale.

It is a more ongoing thing that effects Stark children.

i wondered why dany didnt touch the throne its all she talks about.what do you guys think about theon was that reek/ramsay all along?

Reek possibly. Ramsay no way.

 

[Clu]

she could have touched it. but the one thing on her mind was her dragons, thats all she wanted. so when she heard the cries she ran to them. thats why she didnt stick around in one location long, she only wanted her babies

 

[Spidey-Bat]

My only complaints are really to do with Dany's story. I actually like how they did HOTU on a budget for the most part. No we didn't get that clue to that major thing the fans all theorize about, but the use of Drogo and her would-be son, the throne room in winter, etc. was effective.

Yes, we did. There was snow on the Iron Throne

 

[Roose Bolton]

It was dissapointing not seeing the Targaryen's but seeing Drogo and Rhaego was a great substitute. Dany in that more vulnerable state was a great change from the self entitled figure she's become this season.

 

[DawnWarrior]

So far, the main story has been all the pieces of the War of Five Kings, with two main side stories in Daenarys and in Jon at the wall, which (I assume) will be more prominent down the road. The first season ended with a striking image from one of those side stories (Dany with the dragons) and this season ended with a striking image from the other (the White Walker army).

 

[Primal Slayer]

It was good and I enjoyed it but they needed to spend more time on Danys storyline and house of the undying. She seems to have been short changed this season in terms of story. I wanted more of her in the HoUndying and seeing some of things that I read up on, on wiki. It was to rushed. Everything else though flowed fine for me.

Also, I'm not one to complain about most changes from the books because I understand the changes of mediums, but tonight added one more change (up to three for the year) I really hated. It was Doreah betraying Dany and helping Xaro, followed by Dany burying her alive. Doreah was the one who helped Dany get Drogo's respect and love. In the book she died in the Red Waste and Dany stopped the march a whole day to comfort Doreah. Why keep her alive just to kill her here as a traitor? Especially with Irri gone (the other handmaiden whose still alive and well in the books), they're cutting away Dany's confidants. I'm also really surprised they killed off both Doreah and Irri given you'd think they'd put that scene from the third book in a show like this.

Ya I thought the same, I was for sure thinking that Doreah would be around much longer since they kept her alive and thought it was kind of useless to have her betray Dany and have her seal her away thus lessoning her cast even more.

 

[rayc1971]

its funny how both seasons ended with a shreek last yr with the dragons this yr the whitewalkers

 

[Primal Slayer]

I really hope they adapt some of the undying scenes next season. Give Dany some dream prophecies.