Ghost Rider 2 In The Works - Part 1

[Bubonic]

So this isn't going to be another kids movie?

 

[BigThor]

That first one didn't seem all that kiddy to me, but yeah, this one is gonna be alot more "grim dark".

I'm sure the fan boys will love it, seeing as how they love everything to be "grim dark" nowadays (plus a GR movie should have a grim dark tone).

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

That first one didn't seem all that kiddy to me, but yeah, this one is gonna be alot more "grim dark".

I'm sure the fan boys will love it, seeing as how they love everything to be "grim dark" nowadays (plus a GR movie should have a grim dark tone).

The fight scenes in Ghost Rider were god awful. It is like they wanted them to be non violent as possible. That is one improvement that I am hoping/expecting to see with the sequel is some fights and action sequences with some balls.

 

[Bubonic]

That first one didn't seem all that kiddy to me, but yeah, this one is gonna be alot more "grim dark".

I'm sure the fan boys will love it, seeing as how they love everything to be "grim dark" nowadays (plus a GR movie should have a grim dark tone).

Oh boy you're pulling the grim dark and fanboy cards on me are you?

This is another reason that movie was a mess, because it didn't have a focused identity, one second you have Nick Cage spouting off lame one-liners and popping jelly beans, the next you got emo boy touching people and they die. That imagery was definitely not meant for kids, looks good and creepy, but as a whole I'd say that of all the major marvel features Ghost Rider was the most childish next to the FF.

Don't go labelling me because I want a consistent, quality movie that resonates with the character. I'm not asking for hyper realism and grittiness like Nolan's Batman, but I'm hoping for a director with enough confidence to take what he is doing seriously and not playing it off as one expensive joke.

 

[CelticPredator]

I want Ghost Rider to rip someone's spine out, rip someone elses intestines out, tie the intestine to the skull, and use it as a mace.

Yes.

 

[Bubonic]

Now that's grimdark!

 

[CelticPredator]

I'm going to do that in a movie, if they dont.

 

[Bubonic]

You'll have to, maybe get the writers of SAW involved, push it too the limits man!

 

[CelticPredator]

Nah...they fail at writing...

 

[Bubonic]

I thought we were going for violence here!
There is an intricate hellraiser type chain torture scene in there somewhere.
The penance stare now melts faces.
Ghost Rider will now routinely roll over children's heads Toxic Avenger style.
And we'll need tree rape scenes like in Evil Dead.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah but...Saw's violence is neither cool, nor entertaining. It's just torture porn.

 

[protocida]

Don't expect an R-rated movie.

 

[Bubonic]

Yeah but...Saw's violence is neither cool, nor entertaining. It's just torture porn.

Torture porn is more overused as a term than grimdark.
If you want actual cinematic torture porn try to sit through the Japanese movie Grotesque or A Serbian Film, both make the SAW franchise look like a Disney feature.

Don't expect an R-rated movie.

We were just joking, I'm more concerned with the tone than having gratuitous violence.

 

[S. Grundy]

Torture porn is the dumbest phrase ever coined for films. It's BS, and I'm not even a fan of the Saw films.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I liked the action in the Goyer script. He splits a truck by his fiery hands as a cauterizing blade, he burns his victims to a crisp, his bike goes from zero to 60 in a second to catch a guy when he's about to unload his gun. None of this is out of GR's limits. Vengeance toasted a bunch of baddies when Badilino lost control.

Spoiler

 

[CelticPredator]

Torture porn is the dumbest phrase ever coined for films. It's BS, and I'm not even a fan of the Saw films.

If you saw how these fans go nuts over watching people suffer, you'd understand why that word exists...

 

[Darkness Falls]

are we getting anything at comic con ?

 

[S. Grundy]

If you saw how these fans go nuts over watching people suffer, you'd understand why that word exists...

I have, and fan reactions are really no different than any other horror film.

are we getting anything at comic con ?

Yes, probably a teaser trailer, or at the very least they are unveiling the new Ghost Rider look.

 

[BigThor]

Oh boy you're pulling the grim dark and fanboy cards on me are you?

This is another reason that movie was a mess, because it didn't have a focused identity, one second you have Nick Cage spouting off lame one-liners and popping jelly beans, the next you got emo boy touching people and they die. That imagery was definitely not meant for kids, looks good and creepy, but as a whole I'd say that of all the major marvel features Ghost Rider was the most childish next to the FF.

Don't go labelling me because I want a consistent, quality movie that resonates with the character. I'm not asking for hyper realism and grittiness like Nolan's Batman, but I'm hoping for a director with enough confidence to take what he is doing seriously and not playing it off as one expensive joke.

If I was referring to you I would've said "fanboys like you will love it because it's grim dark", I was talking about fanboys as a whole.

Chill dude, no need to take things personal when they're clearly not meant to be.

 

[BigThor]

I liked the action in the Goyer script. He splits a truck by his fiery hands as a cauterizing blade, he burns his victims to a crisp, his bike goes from zero to 60 in a second to catch a guy when he's about to unload his gun. None of this is out of GR's limits. Vengeance toasted a bunch of baddies when Badilino lost control

Oh sh** that sounds amazing, is this in one of the early scripts for the first GR or the new GR film?

I really like the part about GR splitting a truck apart with his hands, how does he use them as blades?

 

[Bubonic]

Let us share a cyber hug ObeseOdinson and cast our differences aside for a greater tomorrow.

 

[CelticPredator]

I have, and fan reactions are really no different than any other horror film.


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They are.

Friday flicks are always shown in a fun, goofy way. They never take themselves serious, or try to make the deaths anything but fun.

Saw is nasty, humorless, ********. The absolute worst kind of horror, for a horror series.

It's not even fun....it's just gross...nasty crap.

 

[Bubonic]

^^
That is a matter of opinion., not fact.

The first Saw was amazing(also opinion, mine). Horror as we knew it at that point had gotten pretty stale, predictable, downright formulaic and this came along and actually surprised me and a lot of others.

It is no worse than the movie Seven really, it has its own twisted sense of morality and for a while maintained enough of an interesting storyline to keep people coming back.

I felt it was far less gratuitous than movies like Hostel, or the much more extreme foreign horrors.

 

[S. Grundy]

The Saw movies are pretty humorless yeah, but when a person is killed, people give basically the same 'holy ****!' reaction to it, they aren't jacking it to the scenes or anything like that. That's why torture porn is just stupid BS term, the violence uncomfortable and not sexualized or shot to be glorified. The Saw movies are pretty much just modern exploitation films, with more money and better technology thrown at them. Would you label The Passion of the Christ as torture porn? That's 2 1/2 hours of a man being beaten to death, with lingering slow motion shots of the blood soaked violence.

And again I'm not a fan of these movies myself, though I admire the level thought that seems to go into the stories to connect everything. I don't think there is one horror movie franchise or even just general film series that has the same level on detail/continuity that the Saw films have set up.

 

[BigThor]

Let us share a cyber hug ObeseOdinson and cast our differences aside for a greater tomorrow.

Hahahaha "Obese Odinson", that's hilarious !!!