Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

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I'm not sure how I feel about all of these comments comparing my situation to a soap opera or a TV show. I'm assuming these are positive comments? Or are you all saying my life reads like Maury Povich or Jerry Springer? :csad:

I assure you, it's a compliment. I haven't been this hooked onto something since I saw season 1 of Dexter on DVD. :oldrazz:
 
They're all complements LS, trust me. You're keeping us all entertained...in a good way.

arya, we're def on the same page bro.
 
Where have you said ''Yo, ***** that ain't my baby!" or ''I'm sleeping with my cousin." in here. :confused:

Well, I deleted some comments that I had made that the vast majority of you never saw. It was kinda...drama-ish, and I guess I had that in the back of my mind.
 
For example: This was my original posted reply to Zink on like...page 9 or 10 or whatever but I eventually changed my mind about going out with Jason so I deleted it. However the feelings I have below still exist in the back of my mind:

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Zink said:
I have a question. Based on what I read from your past, you seem hesitant on getting in another relationship. Do you see yourself in any kind of relationship with this guy, or just having some fun?

Thanks for this post. It actually epitomizes one of the reasons I postponed our dinner thing until Friday so I can think some things out. There is a list of reasons why I'm holding back. I've sorted them out and narrowed them down...you guys are encouraging me to give this guy a chance but I haven't told you all the story yet.

1.) The Past: I am having a hard time letting go of 11 years of my life with my last relationship. Contrary to whatever you peeps may believe--and my flirting notwithstanding--off line I am really not a player. I don't believe in leading people on that I am not at least genuinely interested in. I am determined not to use Jason as a "rebound" off David, or going back even further--my ex-wife (who I will always have deep respect and love for). I can't allow my hatred of loneliness to lock me into any relationship that I'm not ready for.

2.) Timing: I am terrified by the fact that this relationship has literally come out of nowhere. I've known who Jason was for years and we've always been cool, but always from a distance. I may have spotted him once or twice in the gym but aside from that it was always "hi and bye".

This thing with Jason feels almost kinda rushed...almost as bad as the Storm/Black Panther wedding a couple of years ago.

I'm not into microwaved, easy-bake oven relationships. And even though Jason and I have been acquaintences for a long time, this feels like I'm somehow retconning the past. Does that even make sense?????

3.) Skurred: Although he doesn't know (because I've been keeping him in the dark) I am totally feeling Jason. He is good for me...and our personalities are in sync like you wouldn't believe. He really gets me, and he's another Chris Keller so that fits my perception of the world too. However, I feel like I am cheating on David for having feelings for Jason--and having them so quickly at that. What's wrong with me?

4.) They (Might Possibly) Know Eachother: This is probably one of the biggest issues I have with bringing Jason in my life. At least right now. As some of you know David is an attorney. And if my memory serves, he briefly cross-examined Jason as a witness a couple of years ago. Jason had to give up the ghost on a pretty nasty/violent crime. He was not David's witness as David was prosecuting (I think he was prosecuting). However, David did question him to bring out more facts. The whole convo may have lasted about 3 minutes and I don't believe the talked to eachother before or after the judge dismissed Jason from the stand. But still...

See, the thing is, sometimes the circles of law enforcement, firefighting, and the courts merge--even if it's temporarily. I seriously doubt that David remembers Jason or that Jason remembers David--by name. It was like in 2006 or 2007. But if I get involved with Jason at some point he's gonna wanna know about my past and who I've been involved with for the last decade. He may see pics of David and me (I haven't taken anything down just yet) and he may remember that David had him on the witness stand.

Now, that in itself is not a problem except that it would officially "out" David to Jason and vice versa. I can't speak for Jason, but I KNOW that David would not be pleased with the idea of someone outside of the two of us being made aware of his DL/bisexuality. He has always felt that something like that getting out in the legal circles would destroy him. David is all about his professional self-image and he struggles with that (and I understand that--look at how Tiger Wood's undercover mess is screwing up his endorsements now). Since I was his first M2M relationship--and considering how badly it ended, bringing Jason in would just add to the tension and nastiness between us right now. David works closely with the cops and precincts. It's his job.

Granted, I could be obsessing over nothing at all. It's extremely possible that I have mistaken Jason for someone else and he wasn't on that stand a few years ago. But how many hot dirty blonde cops could there be? LOL

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If this IS a TV show, I guess the above is a "Deleted Scene" from the series that 99% of ya'll probably did not see, save Mistress Gluon, ATP and a couple of others.

#4 is still very much a valid concern of mine. I might try and see if I can get Jason to reveal if he knows David while we're out tonight.
 
IMO, Number 4 is probably your most over thought worry of them all. Considering Jason is in the same spot as David, who if he does remember/know, he's not likely to blab about David's sexuality or go to David about it. And even if they did run into one another on the job again, it's not like they are gonna blab about their current personal lives, so that David would react with a ''YEAHBUWHAT?" that Jason is/could be with you now. So the worries of reboundyness are just your brain in overdrive as well.
 
IMO, Number 4 is probably your most over thought worry of them all. Considering Jason is in the same spot as David, who if he does remember/know, he's not likely to blab about David's sexuality or go to David about it. And even if they did run into one another on the job again, it's not like they are gonna blab about their current personal lives, so that David would react with a ''YEAHBUWHAT?" that Jason is/could be with you now. So the worries of reboundyness are just your brain in overdrive as well.

Well, we'll see. I hope you're right. David is not in a good place right now emotionally and even though he all but threw my ass away, I know he wouldn't take kindly to me being with someone else (even though it's been several months). I know my (ex) man...Italians have terrible tempers. It's just drama I do not need in my life. My goal is to keep the two men as separate as possible. I guess I should take down all of the photos I have in my house of me and David and store them away somewhere huh?

At any rate, Jason text messaged me a little while ago stating that after the movies he wants me to come back to his place again tonight to "hang out." I hope we'll get to finally :wall: tonight and release the tension already!

Cuz I can't take the pressure anymore. :csad:
 
Well, we'll see. I hope you're right. David is not in a good place right now emotionally and even though he all but threw my ass away, I know he wouldn't take kindly to me being with someone else (even though it's been several months). I know my (ex) man...Italians have terrible tempers. It's just drama I do not need in my life. My goal is to keep the two men as separate as possible. I guess I should take down all of the photos I have in my house of me and David and store them away somewhere huh?

At any rate, Jason text messaged me a little while ago stating that after the movies he wants me to come back to his place again tonight to "hang out." I hope we'll get to finally :wall: tonight and release the tension already!

Cuz I can't take the pressure anymore. :csad:

****. :oldrazz:
 

"****" is such a cold, dirty coarse word. I prefer more sophisticated terminology...like "****e". :hehe:

But yes...if I have my way tonight...we're gonna be :wall: until the other cops coming knocking!

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^ And since he's a cop, we're gonna have that song playing in the background.

Yeah.
 
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What would rock, is if you guys head back to the theatre someday, make out, and those dudes from before catch you, and you can thank them. =)

And you're a dirty boy. :o

Let's not go into denial here.
 
What would rock, is if you guys head back to the theatre someday, make out, and those dudes from before catch you, and you can thank them. =)

Well, we are going to same theatre tonight so...ya never know.

I am sure that that "Daddy" and his friend have been arraigned and released by now.



And you're a dirty boy. :o

Let's not go into denial here.

Who? Mwha??? :oldrazz:
 
Well, we are going to same theatre tonight so...ya never know.

I am sure that that "Daddy" and his friend have been arraigned and released by now.





Who? Mwha??? :oldrazz:


Actually, a movie sounds good. I just hate having to be the one to ask for it. >.<
 
Ooo la la, LS! Hope the night goes well.

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Wow. You brought in the 1993 New Jack Swing!

"Knocking the boots means two boots coming together making tasteful lust."

As I was watching the video you posted I was totally bobbing my head like, "Aw yeah".
 
So...this experience actually took place a few weeks ago, but I'm posting about it now because a recent development has grown out of it--and it's actually positive. The details are a bit longwinded so bear with me...

Background: As many of you are aware, I am now officially a "single" bachelor again, so lately, I've been doing a lot of partying, traveling (both domestically and internationally), and social networking. Don't get me wrong: I am determined not to 'rebound' so I haven't been doing all of this in search of a new love interest. Rather, because I am such an extroverted person I draw power from being around people. You could say that loneliness is my personal Kryptonite. So here's what happened, and I'm editing some of it for content.

I had gone out to see a movie with some friends. All of us work out at the same gym on the regular. Inside the theater's lobby they have these self-serve stations where you can get condiments, butter your popcorn, dress hot dogs with toppings, etc. etc. My friends and I were getting our stuff and these two guys came by to put some extra butter on their popcorn. Both of these dudes were cut and obviously worked out at the gym. However, my gaydar was set off instantly when I saw them. They had the whole "Leather" look going on and in terms of gay class identification, they would fall under the "Bear" and "Daddy" category. One was younger, about 20-something, bald, with a lot of tats and piercings. The other one was probably somewhere in his late 50's with a goatee and glasses. Both were white.

The older "Daddy" was across the counter from me and he was staring at the dog tags I had around my neck (the top five or six buttons of my shirt were unbuttoned). He asked if I had served. I told him "No" and that they were a gift to me from the family of a dear friend of mine that died in the Gulf war years ago. He said they looked "hot" on me and I thanked him for the comps. He was clearly flirting but I thought it was harmless. So we went into the theater to watch the movie. The guy and his friend followed us into the same screening. :dry:

After the movie was over with we all came out to reconvene in the lobby (one of the guys in my group went to see a different movie all by himself). While we were waiting for him, I decided to go and use the restroom. The two guys that were eyeing me earlier decided to come into the restroom as well. The original "Daddy" guy that spoke to me at the condiment station was staring at me the whole time and I started to get a creepy feeling.

Unlike some men, I have a habit of always washing my hands even before taking a piss (because theaters are nasty and an obvious haven for germs and H1N1, etc.,). So while I was washing my hands at the sink, the guy came up to me again and started washing his hands too. Since we were both in front of the mirrors I couldn't help but look at him and vise versa now. His friend went into one of the stalls. Older Dude was definitely casing me because he licked his lips and complimented me again by saying that I had pretty skin. Then he asked if I was dating any of the guys that were with me. Creepy as f***. I ignored him and I simply said "Thanks" and to have a nice day. As I reached for the paper towel dispenser, he said, "Oh...you're one of those stuck-up pretty boy b***ches huh? I turned to him and said "Excuse me? F*** off dude."

So as Wonder Woman would say, here's where "the wisdom of Athena"--AKA my street smarts--left me. :down I went to the urinal to pee with my back to this guy. A stupid move. His friend came up next to me as if he was going to take a leak in the urinal next to mine. But instead, he looked over down at my penis and said to his friend that it was "as big as my attitude problem." Now keep in mind, I am mid-piss. Before I could even turn around, the daddy guy came up behind me and bashed my face into the tile wall in front of me. Obviously blood went gushing from my nose and my lip which got split from the impact. [blackout]And to think I always believed my nose was wide before this happened. :o[/blackout]

One of my friends came into the restroom at that moment (to do whatever) and his entrance blocked the exit of the two cats that tag-teamed me. His name is Jason. As soon as he saw my face, and the older guy's bloodied fist" he instantly knew what was going on and got in the mix. Jason is a cop, and even though he wasn't on duty, the boy has serrrious moves. He subdued the older gentlemen, while I tried to beat the crap out of the younger one. I was a bit delirious (sp?) so I seemed to ignore Jason's shouting to "stop". But truth is, my head was pounding and I couldn't hear him.

By then other guys had come into the restroom and there was a lot of commotion. A young teenage kid (probably 13 or 14) was obviously full of glee to see grown-ass men fist-fighting so he was screaming "fight! fight!" which caused a bit of a stampede. Two of the mall security guys came rushing in and they in term radioed in for official city cops. The whole time, Jason kept the guys subdued because he told them he was a cop. And my other friends had also come into the restroom and they were helping me hold it down. Once the cops came, Jason was able to fill them in on what happened. Jason wasn't in their precinct, but thankfully for me they knew him from being on the beat. It was all good. He worked it out to where I didn't get arrested (even though technically I should've been for retaliating).

The whole wrap-up took a long while to get statements, et al from all involved. The cops ended up taking the two jokers in.

Now, of all the guys that were in my group that night, I'd say that Jason was the one I knew least well. I have actually known who he was for a long time being that he was a cop and I was a firefighter. We often crossed paths in our professions. But aside from that and seeing him at the gym we weren't really all that close. But due to this situation, something very interesting has happened. This post is too long so I will post the follow-up shortly on what happened this past weekend.
Lightning, we already discussed this. It's not assault if you want it.
 
You mean you "don't" put much stock into it? If so, why not?

I understand that some believe that if a man sleeps with another man he is automatically gay and in the purest term that's true: after all you are playing with another man's penis. No one does that unless they are gay.

However, I believe that true bisexuality is possible too. I'm a perfect specimen of that: I am just as easily aroused by a scantily-clad woman as I am by a guy. And I can certainly pleasure a woman just as thoroughly. So to me, it's not an "either/or" situation, nor is it as simple as turning on only a cold or hot faucet switch. For me, both the cold AND hot switches are turned at the same time.

Psychologists recently did a study on this and the report concluded that ALL men have a degree of bisexuality active in their genes to greater or lesser extents. Many may never choose to act on it. But according to this study it's there, buried down deep. For example, the study showed that during a baseball ball game, the polled women's eyes focused physically on the players' face, broadness of shoulders and butt. But men? The studies showed that the men in the stands (and watching on television) were focusing primarily on the players' crotch areas. Hence the term, "Penis Envy." To a small degree, interest in the sexual properties of the same sex qualifies as bisexuality, or as some put it, bi-curious.

However, it's not until a man actually ACTS on that curiosity that he becomes gay. Interesting.

You're right, I meant "don't", my bad :p

I guess I've just met too many people who use the whole "gay" / "bi" thing as a gimmick, for attention. And I'm not saying you're doing this for attention, cuz I don't think you're that kind of person, but I guess what it comes down to is that I buy into the whole "God created Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve" theory, just without all the intolerant hatred spewed behind it.

Basically, I believe that homosexuality is a personal choice, and it's not a "gay" / "bi" thing, but rather a "who I wanna f---" thing.
 
Lightning, we already discussed this. It's not assault if you want it.

I will give you a chance to explain yourself...or even update your post with an emoticon that you hopefully forgot to include.

Otherwise, I am going to bring trouble to your door.
 
You're right, I meant "don't", my bad :p

I guess I've just met too many people who use the whole "gay" / "bi" thing as a gimmick, for attention. And I'm not saying you're doing this for attention, cuz I don't think you're that kind of person, but I guess what it comes down to is that I buy into the whole "God created Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve" theory, just without all the intolerant hatred spewed behind it.

Basically, I believe that homosexuality is a personal choice, and it's not a "gay" / "bi" thing, but rather a "who I wanna f---" thing.

Whaa?

I didn't "choose" this. And I was never molested as a child or witnessed homosexual activity. So where did I "learn" this behavior from? I didn't. In fact, why on earth would anyone choose this kind of confusion in their life?
 
Whaa?

I didn't "choose" this. And I was never molested as a child or witnessed homosexual activity. So where did I "learn" this behavior from? I didn't. In fact, why on earth would anyone choose this kind of confusion in their life?

I don't mean it in a bad way.

It's a really horrible analogy, but it's really the only thing that I can think of to compare it to. It's like, I didn't wake up one day and say "Hey, I'm gonna listen to rap music", there was something about it that just appealed to me, and that's the music I prefer, and the music I listen to.

I see it the same way - you don't just wake up as say "Hey, I'm GAY!", but it just kind of appeals to you and you gravitate towards that. Why would you "choose" that? I don't know. The human mind is a really complicated thing.

And I've had it explained to me exactly that way before too. I had a teacher who was gay, and that's exactly how he stated he came about it, is that he just realized that other guys appealed to him.

Trust me, when I say all of this, it's not in any kind of negative way. Whether it is natural, or whether it is a choice, I really don't care either way. While I am of the mindset that it is a choice, I'm not of the mindset that it's bad or negative.
 
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