Justice League Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - - - - - - - Part 17

[heatvision38]

One of my faves as well. And it's funny, I always thought he WAS a crap actor on Buffy, because he was really green on that show, but he got much better on Angel. His "Irish" accent will never not be hilarious to me, though.

Yeah, on Buffy he was essentially like Ben Stiller giving the Blue Steel look: "Oh, I am so hot, yet so tortured." But he definitely grew as an actor.

 

[Greenlite]

He should get more money but he is not in a position to act as if he is A-list star. It's not as if there are other great roles waiting for Henry once he quits Superman role, on the contrary, once you quit a big role, there's risk that you could fade into obscurity.

I remember that Brandon Routh got paid 2 mil for Superman Returns, which was a lot of money even in 2006. Now, with WB's new management under Hamada, they want DC movies with medium budgets (I think that means budget around 150 mil.), so they will not sign big paychecks, unless it is for some Hollywood star.

WB want to make DC movies with budgets under tight control, look at the actors in Shazam and WW84, no big name actors.

Best deal for both sides would be medium length contract with a heathy backend bonus based on box office receipt

 

[heatvision38]

Some of y'all are wild as hell. No clue what figures are even floating around or what Cavill's asking for, but because you're so thirsty to keep him in the role you're now trying to say he doesn't deserve what he's asking for and should stay humble. Has Henry or his camp said anywhere he wants RDJ money? Or is everyone just using that comparison to justify him not fighting for the most he feels he deserves.

I will never take career growth advice from some of you lol.

Uh, oh. You said 'thirsty.' I'm triggered.

 

[Da-Scribe]

no one is saying that henry shouldn't be asking for what he thinks he's worth. hell, after all the crap they put him through these last 6 years, I'd be doing the same thing

I'm just saying that you shouldn't be surprised if WB decides to look at other avenues

I don’t disagree with that and I won’t be shocked at all. I’m just saying people shouldn’t keep taking these little digs at him when they don’t even know any details. Let the man fight for whatever it is he wants.

 

[Micromind]

Best deal for both sides would be medium length contract with a heathy backend bonus based on box office receipt

Yeah, let's hope for the best.


#HopeAndOptimism

 

[flickchick85]

Some of y'all are wild as hell. No clue what figures are even floating around or what Cavill's asking for, but because you're so thirsty to keep him in the role you're now trying to say he doesn't deserve what he's asking for and should stay humble. Has Henry or his camp said anywhere he wants RDJ money? Or is everyone just using that comparison to justify him not fighting for the most he feels he deserves.

I will never take career growth advice from some of you lol.

Henry and his camp will never discuss how much he's getting paid. That's not kosher. We're only discussing the rumors swirling around Twitter, because that's what's there to discuss at the moment, which is where the RDJ thing is coming from. You'll notice a lot of our posts are littered with phrases like "if true," because we're merely discussing a hypothetical situation that MAY be what's happening right now.

 

[BH/HHH]

I kind of side with WB on this. Cavill is serviceable in the role, but there’s better actors that would bring more interest. A fresh start might do wonders since none of the films he was in have worked all that well. He’s definitely replaceable, and has no real leverage that holds any real weight here.

You’re totally underestimating how hard a role Superman is to cast. An actor has to pretty much believe in the ideals off the screen as much as ok it. Henry has done that and as has been said also in this thread the guys done his fair share of Superman research to truly understand the character.

Henry has been let down by the material so far (I’m not including Man of Steel in that because that was the beginnings of Superman and he played that part superbly imo). The guys done a lot as a spikes person for the role aswell that’s not to be under valued.

Also as Da Scribe said we don’t know the figures been branded about either so I think some people need to get off their high horse and stop acting like they know what he & his agent are asking for here and that it’s somehow wrong to do what he’s doing.

 

[Willi Berg]

You’re totally underestimating how hard a role Superman is to cast. An actor has to pretty much believe in the ideals off the screen as much as ok it. Henry has done that and as has been said also in this thread the guys done his fair share of Superman research to truly understand the character.

There's also the basic look of Superman to consider. People think it is easy to cast the role but then in the past the role was offered to actors like Ashton Kutcher, Brendan Fraser, Jude Law...(someone say Nic Cage ) The studio was scrambling...

 

[Black Narcissus]

Lettuce be real for a moment. If ya'll ran WB, would you wait 3 years and just start fresh with a Superman with no existing baggage from other films and possible even a director who wants to start fresh, like Reeves with Batman or have another Superman sequel out in 2021? (Because there is no way we getting one in 2020, that is even with Cavill and a director on-board imo). IF that makes money do another in another 2 years with the actor possibly being in his 40s? From a Hamada stand point what makes more sense? lol

I do believe Cavill signs on for at least one more solo and with 2 appearances in other flicks tho. Eh.

 

[Willi Berg]

Ultimately, a good Superman movie is most important, above the demands of any one actor. And released sooner rather than later. But I like Henry in the role, so far I don't believe his demands are outrageous. If it does turn out his demands are unreasonable and delay the project, then yes why not recast- if they can find the right actor. But I don't think we're at that point yet, nor do I think the situation is dire. If Henry can collaborate with a great director and that's what gets the movie going, then by all means get the movie with Henry going asap.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I still feel we won't get ANY type of Superman film till about 2021/2022 tho.

So, yes, Superman SHOULD be a performance, but in my opinion, the audience and or Hollywood isn't interested in a well-rounded character that can rollercoaster through a range of emotions. Thus, Superman becomes as easy to cast as a guy who wears a mask for 2/3 of a movie.

Also, which pbu is this? lawd.

 

[Willi Berg]

I still feel we won't get ANY type of Superman film till about 2021/2022 tho.

That's ok with me. I didn't expect it so soon.

Just not something like in 5+ years in development hell with no hope in sight. That would be bad.

 

[Black Narcissus]

That's ok with me. I didn't expect it so soon.

Zod bless ya.

You Superman fans should have ''Hope'' on your forehead. Real talk. Ya'll are some of the most patient and ever hoping.

 

[Willi Berg]

Zod bless ya.

You Superman fans should have ''Hope'' on your forehead. Real talk. Ya'll are some of the most patient and ever hoping.

Just being realistic. it's a massive undertaking and I don't see, from this point, MOS2 making a 2020 date (insert small glimmer of hope here.)

After the Superman Returns stuff and then the BvS stuff, Superman fans have learned to cope.

Besides, lucky I am a WW fan too because there's that to tide me over and is moving along nicely.

 

[idiot09]

If he loses it because he demanded too much money, the blunder was his/his people's, imo.

We have zero ways of knowing this. This is complete conjecture. For all we know Henry may be demanding a reasonable contract, and WB might be being stringent.

To blame it on Henry and his guys, without knowing anything is just not right. I dont care a bit about all this money business. Like I said, not my money. He can be paid $30M or $3M, it wont make a difference to me. WB needs to have him signed up ASAP.

 

[Micromind]

I thought there was one movie still to go before WB renewed his contract ?

 

[flickchick85]

We have zero ways of knowing this. This is complete conjecture. For all we know Henry may be demanding a reasonable contract, and WB might be being stringent.

Hence the word "If." We're discussing a hypothetical situation that's come from a rumor. Nobody's "blaming" anybody because we don't know if these rumors are even legit. It's not automatically WB's blunder if it falls through, was my only point. Henry/Garcia are just as capable of botching this deal. People saying "WB are idiots if they let him go." They aren't idiots if he's gonna cost them more money than he's proven to be worth. I know we love to hate on WB for everything around here, but sometimes it's not that simple.

And yes, there definitely won't be a Superman film before 2021 at this point, considering there's still no movement or any creative team even on board yet.

 

[idiot09]

Hence the word "If." We're discussing a hypothetical situation that's come from a rumor.

Alright.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly if both Henry and Ben do part ways with Warner Bros regarding their respective roles then I would rather they just treat every film from here on as standalone movies.

What's the point of building up to another Justice League/Group film if they can't keep their actors from walking away?

The level of incompetence that Warner Bros has shown knows no limits. They constantly make new and bigger mistakes with every avenue that they face. Frankly, if they can't keep their current versions of Superman and Batman, let alone maintain any level of consistency between everyone else's films then there's no point to continue on with this shared universe concept.

Warner Bros really has the worst timing as well. To constantly have bad news pop up before their bug comic con panel. DC is a complete joke right now. Their films are a mess and their tv universe are dominated by SJW.

 

[Greenlite]

Henry turned 35 two months ago, so if we get the ball moving this year and pump the film out in 2021, he'd be 37/38, if he ends up with another 2 sequels with 3 years in between, he'd be around 44 y/o by the time he retires from the role, 15 years as Superman, and if WB bothers making great Sup movies with him, he could end up as the Hugh Jackman of this DC incarnation - average reception to earlier films but a good second half run to turn things around.

It'd be a good opportunity for them to do some senior/older Superman role/films after his next sequel (if it happens), I'm sure there are some interesting ones to adapt, maybe even as a dad.

 

[Greenlite]

TV showing MOS now, the synopsis says young boy finds himself with extraordinary powers and as a young man he needs to stand up to be the hero to save the world.

Starring Amy Adams. PG13.

LOL

Maybe Amy should ask for a hefty pay rise, she's done her 3 right?

Btw the film deserves a fresh tomato with that prologue, man Michael Shannon's acting, subtle p*ssed off facial twitches and regretful eyes, and his brawl with Russel Crowe, freaking Russel Crowe! Such a shame they have ideas for a bunch of spin offs but nothing for a 55M Krypton movie with Crowe, Zurer and Shannon, even Crowe was up for it

edit: ahhhh the dog just ran out and didn't bother help dad. and he let dad die but STILL used his powers later!! how the hell did Nolan approve the script!! should have him use the power but FAILED instead

 

[harlequinade]

At this rate, we're looking at a Justice League reboot in 5 years starring Gal Gadot, maybe Jason Momoa, and bunch of new faces, lol.

Unless Jason gets drunk and takes a literal piss on stage on Comic Con or tries being funny again and something horrible comes out of his mouth, he is coming back. He has nothing outside of this - and in spite of my prayers and sending him well wishes it doesn't seem like he is getting anything valuable outside of this - and he is gonna be happy whatever they pay him

LOL

Maybe Amy should ask for a hefty pay rise, she's done her 3 right?

considering Amy is probably winning both Oscar and an Emmy next year and there are fewer opportunities to screw over women financially these days these are the negotiations WB should worry about

 

[Micromind]

Amy should be one of the Producers for Superman movie. That gives me an idea for the title of next Superman movie, name it as Lois and Superman : New Adventures of Clark Kent.

 

[BH/HHH]

Lettuce be real for a moment. If ya'll ran WB, would you wait 3 years and just start fresh with a Superman with no existing baggage from other films and possible even a director who wants to start fresh, like Reeves with Batman or have another Superman sequel out in 2021? (Because there is no way we getting one in 2020, that is even with Cavill and a director on-board imo). IF that makes money do another in another 2 years with the actor possibly being in his 40s? From a Hamada stand point what makes more sense? lol

I do believe Cavill signs on for at least one more solo and with 2 appearances in other flicks tho. Eh.

In all honestly I probably wouldn’t IF it wasn’t for the shared universe. I think if DC were to reboot ten you reboot everything but no way will they reboot Wonder Woman and Aquaman may end up being a huge hit too. I think another thing to consider is that a lot of people don’t see Henry as the problem and a lot of people see him as the face of Superman.

I think 2021 is more likely but I also think people forget that Man of Steel was in the can a full year before it was released though. I don’t think the length of time it takes is as long as people suggest.

There's also the basic look of Superman to consider. People think it is easy to cast the role but then in the past the role was offered to actors like Ashton Kutcher, Brendan Fraser, Jude Law...(someone say Nic Cage ) The studio was scrambling...

Exactly

 

[Micromind]

Making a Green Lantern movie successful is a LOT bigger challenge than making the next successful Superman movie, WB need to realize this.