Hey You Hulk Movie fans please don't ruin the sequel

[HoratioRome]

How so? How would you "Update it?" By reading your post I was led to believe that you know about the Hulk. The Hulks birth place was Gamma Base and the detonation of The Gamma Bomb. Everyone has a Hulk inside of them, waiting to be released. It just a matter of it being released. In Banners case it was being pelted by Gamma rays. The Hulk is a manifestation of the Gamma Bomb. The rage and the fury of the bomb is directly reflected in who The Hulk is. Just like the Gamma Bomb, The Hulk can and does destroy things but never kills. The power and force of the Gamma Bomb can not be contained or controlled. No one knows exactly how powerful the Gamma Bomb. Does that sound familiar? A Gamma Bomb with legs. That is exactly what the Hulk is. This is how Lee and Kirby described The Incredible Hulk origin. I have no problem with updating the origin as long as the characters and the substance of the inital story remain intact.

What we got was a "What if?" version ("What if...Bruce's Father Created THE HULK???").

Sava, agree that the Gamma origin would have been great to watch on the big screen, still they would have had to do something to explain why he survives, and all the stuff before with David experimenting on himself and so on.

You see, that's the mystery of The Hulk? "how did he survive the Gamma blast?" What makes him turn into The Hulk. In "The Monster's Analyst" (Hulk #227) the idea that The Hulk is subconsciously connected to Bruce's past amd that his father was somehow envolved. The mystery and drama of the Hulk was derived from the fact that Bruce really had no idea why he would become this creature. It is Bruce's "normality" which made the Hulk such a mystery ("Where does he comes from? Why did I survive? How do I get cured?"), and it is in fact the mystery which is the basis of the Hulk.

totally agree here. I was suprised to read that comment from Jeet. Glad for his response to this post though.

Naw, I think that particular origin (obviously updated in its dialogue, technology, and science) would work particularly well and is actually essential to the Hulk character.

It's like removing Uncle Ben's death from Spider-man's origin. doesn't work.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Good way to put it. "What if" the Hulk grew to 15 feet tall? "What if" the Hulk all but forgot how to talk?

The more I think about it, the more the original story might work. I was concerned that a "Gamma bomb" would put question marks over everyone's head in the audience...but a good script could explain what a Gamma bomb is in a few minutes. It wouldn't even have to make a lot of sense...just be a new kind of bomb that Bruce was working on. The one possible problem might be the "bomb" part. Would that work in today's climate? Maybe a new source of energy that would replace oil instead of a bomb?

Well it wouldn't be any worst than Jelly Fish, lizard and Star Fish DNA combined with Nanomeds and then bombarded with Gamma Rays. Why does it have to make sense? Does it make any sense that Banner, a genius, would try to block Gamma Rays with his body eventhough he had to know that they would pass right through him like water through a screen? Does it make any sense that the Gamma Shpere, in real life, does not emit gamma rays it detects them? Does it make any sense.... well you get the idea. Would it work in todays climate? Why wouldn't it? Banners working on a new type of bomb. A Gamma Bomb. One without the nuclear fallout. They don't know for sure what it will do or what effects it will have on living beings. They think that it will destroy building and such but not kill living beings. They were kind of right. There now it's explained.

 

[HoratioRome]

Well it wouldn't be any worst than Jelly Fish, lizard and Star Fish DNA combined with Nanomeds and then bombarded with Gamma Rays. Why does it have to make sense? Does it make any sense that Banner, a genius, would try to block Gamma Rays with his body eventhough he had to know that they would pass right through him like water through a screen? Does it make any sense that the Gamma Shpere, in real life, does not emit gamma rays it detects them? Does it make any sense.... well you get the idea. Would it work in todays climate? Why wouldn't it? Banners working on a new type of bomb. A Gamma Bomb. One without the nuclear fallout. They don't know for sure what it will do or what effects it will have on living beings. They think that it will destroy building and such but not kill living beings. They were kind of right. There now it's explained.

once again totally agree. there are so many example we could give but if these don't convince them than nothing will.

 

[HoratioRome]

I thought that was you. Good to hear from you as well. I thought you fell off the end of the earth. I haven't heard from you (AT HULKMOVIE.COM) since around June 20, 2003. LOL. What do you think, Re-start or sequel?

Hey cracker, man long time no hear. I didn't even realize the Hulk forum continued after the movie aired. I left because some of the comments were just getting way too ridiculous for my taste.

Imagine if they'd just listened to us, if somehow our arguments affected some changes, imagine how much better the movie would have been.

the problem is that when the fans can unite (on even these very basic issues) it becomes easy for Hollywood/Quesada/Arad to do whatever they like. we giv ethem a license to do so.

 

[Cracker Jack]

sava I'm glad you're open to some of these ideas. look the fact of the matter is just as your heart skipped a beat when you heard the Hulk speak, your heart would be doing a whole dance if you saw on screne what you KNEW in your heart was true.

done well, that origin story, with the explosion, the power it reflected,selflessness of Banner in saving Rick the drama etc. would BLOW YOU AWAY. trust me on this one.

Oh for the day that they can accurately represent this on screen. Excelent post Hellpop

 

[Cracker Jack]

Hey cracker, man long time no hear. I didn't even realize the Hulk forum continued after the movie aired. I left because some of the comments were just getting way too ridiculous for my taste.

LOL so true. Yes the boards are still alive, well, there's still a pulse. The regulars stuck around. We're waiting

Imagine if they'd just listened to us, if somehow our arguments affected some changes, imagine how much better the movie would have been.

the problem is that when the fans can unite (on even these very basic issues) it becomes easy for Hollywood/Quesada/Arad to do whatever they like. we giv ethem a license to do so.

Remember, "Let's give the changes a chance" ? Yep, I was one of those saying that. Still in all, I don't hate Ang effort. The CGI was great and like you said "We are NOT here to bash the movie. we are here to praise and respect the magic, the beauty, and the success of the comics. We want to take what has worked for THIRTY years and give it a chance to be scene by this generation.
"

 

[HoratioRome]

LOL so true. Yes the boards are still alive, well, there's still a pulse. The regulars stuck around. We're waiting



Remember, "Let's give the changes a chance" ? Yep, I was one of those saying that. Still in all, I don't hate Ang effort. The CGI was great and like you said "We are NOT here to bash the movie. we are here to praise and respect the magic, the beauty, and the success of the comics. We want to take what has worked for THIRTY years and give it a chance to be scene by this generation.
"

lol, its funny that the boards are still alive even today. I wonder what people talk about. Well I guess the same thing we're talking here. what's the attitude there? are people also saying the movie was great,that the hulk WAS 15' tall in the comics, and other non sense?
it's such a shame cause if we could all unite as a single voice I think we would be heard.

I didn't remember that you were one of the folks saying "give the changes a chance". I remember arguying pretty vehemently against that. to be honest I could understand that position at that time. Many people didn't yet realize just how bad changes could screw things up. I'm glad you're on board now asking for things to go back to the basics. I wish more people were like you and could admit to being wrong.
as it is we have to hope that Hulk sequel will even happen now because of the screw ups.
here's hoping if it does they will have learned their lesson.

btw I have a great Hulk 2 script that would more than make up for the first debacle.

 

[El Payaso]

You need a "link" to know what people were saying about the Hulk movie? How long were you in the mountains anyway?

Link about what SSH Hulk fans think. Delete Ang's movie or not:

And now I see why you don't like links to support what you say.

Anyway I just show you the way you like it: what people say. If this very poll was against Lee I wouldn't mind it, but since you pay so much attention of what other people say in order to generate your own opinions, there you are.

True...a giant ape (a non-talking species) is exactly the same as a mutated human being (a talking species). (And keep in mind that we are talking about the character talking here.)

Keep in mind how stupid that would look.

You mean...no one has ever made a movie with a talking Hulk? You mean that saying a talking Hulk would look stupid onscreen is an opinion based on nothing? Interesting.

Based on facts: no artist has thought it would be a good idea.

www.youarestupid.com You really weren't around when audiences were gushing over Gollum and saying the Hulk looked fake? I don't know what to tell you, dude. Too many mountain vacations.

The real question is what the f^ck I care? Audiences have favoured sh^t like FF and tons of other crappy movies.

Trusting on audiences opinion is as pointless as a green monster talking in the third person about what he's doing (which in a movie is more than obvious).

A talking Hulk would be a real character in the movie...which would automatically give him more dignity than Ang Lee's walking special effect.

A non talking Hulk WAS a real character in the movie...

And what's with the special effects? Do you think a talking Hulk would automatically mean a better special effects?

Totally different subjects.

I don't think it would bother me if he talked in third person any more than Gollum's or Yoda's way of speaking bothered me. "Good it will be!" "It's the precious!"

Now if it spills over into Jar-Jar territory, then we have a problem.

But that's your own statement. Characters that talk have immediate personality.

Not that your statement was too brilliant.

What we got was a "What if?" version ("What if...Bruce's Father Created THE HULK???").

The whole Hulk concept is a big what if.

What was wrong with the FF movie? I thought it was awesome. Audiences loved it. The sequel is on the fast track because people want to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a 3rd one.

DD and Punisher were ok too. I wouldn't mind a sequel to either one. I own DD.

Mistery solved.

You love crap. You want Hulk to be a crap you can love.

And you love to follow what audiences say. That's for you the last and golden word.

Yeah, fantastic masterpieces, FF, DD, Punisher. The only way you know Catwoman was crap is because audiences said so.

The exact words the Hulk uses isn't vital....just that he is allowed to communicate and be a real character in the movie.

Dear god, only way for a character to communicate: talking.

Your ignorance on the matter is only overwhelmed by that part of you which allows you to show us so openly your ignorance on the matter.

The more I think about it, the more the original story might work. I was concerned that a "Gamma bomb" would put question marks over everyone's head in the audience...but a good script could explain what a Gamma bomb is in a few minutes. It wouldn't even have to make a lot of sense...just be a new kind of bomb that Bruce was working on. The one possible problem might be the "bomb" part. Would that work in today's climate? Maybe a new source of energy that would replace oil instead of a bomb?

You love the origin, now you wanna change it for... a bomb that replace oil??? With such great ideas why to complain about changing the origin?

well in a way it kinda does because it means you're not THAT happy with the character as he IS. IOW, you may like the Hulk, but you don't like him THAT much because you have some major problems with him. His origin, his speech, and so on and so on. These issues, like it or not, distance your connection with the character.

So what?

Frankenstein is itself a great great idea. Even so, the book is not that good, that's why - as the Hulk - every incarnation have big changes and are not 100% faithful (not even Branagh's "so faithful" adaptation). The concept is better than the original source.

Being a fan doesn't mean to blindly follow every single detail (even the wrong ones). That's more of a geek.

Others who DON"t have those issues, who actually LOVE the origin, love the way he speaks, and love the character completely are a little closer and are therefore MORE of a fan than you are. get it?

Totally not.

The fact you eat and swallow those details in no way proves that they're good. It just proves that you can eat and swallow anything.

Done well, the Hulk speaking, even in the third person, would have added so much more depth to the character that you would have had a heart attack.

How so?

We are NOT here to bash the movie.

I always thank a good laugh.

We want to take what has worked for THIRTY years and give it a chance to be scene by this generation.

When you say 'we' you mean 'I', right?

New generations will always have comic books to read.

Spider-man has done it with his movies, we just want the same for the Hulk. Stick to what has worked.

Only good thing Spiderman movie did was making money.

 

[Cracker Jack]

lol, its funny that the boards are still alive even today. I wonder what people talk about. Well I guess the same thing we're talking here. what's the attitude there? are people also saying the movie was great,that the hulk WAS 15' tall in the comics, and other non sense?
it's such a shame cause if we could all unite as a single voice I think we would be heard.

We hardly talk about the movie anymore. Once in awhile a thread will start but it soon dies because we've been over it over and over and over. We're about 50 50 at HM.com. We talk about 24, FF, Batman Begins and other comice and even non-comic movies. It's a great place. Nuff said.

I didn't remember that you were one of the folks saying "give the changes a chance". I remember arguying pretty vehemently against that. to be honest I could understand that position at that time. Many people didn't yet realize just how bad changes could screw things up. I'm glad you're on board now asking for things to go back to the basics. I wish more people were like you and could admit to being wrong.
as it is we have to hope that Hulk sequel will even happen now because of the screw ups.
here's hoping if it does they will have learned their lesson.

Oh yes. As much as I couldn't understand why they thought it necessary to make the changes, for the sake of putting out the flames, I was in a wait and see mode. We did argue vehemently over jellyfish, Starfish and how stupid we thought he looked at 15 feet, but in the end, it was something we had to give it a chance.

What I don't understand now is why people can't understand or get by the fact that the movie we got, for all intent and purposes, basiclly killed the franchise. That is what pisses me off more then anything. And they come back and say, " I don't care if they never make another Hulk movie, I love the one we got." I understand that they love the movie but wouldn't they like to see more Hulk movies? And others say they'd like Ang Lee back!!!! Sheesh!!! Why? To put the final nail in the coffin.

Im not really here now. I drop in from time to time to talk with Sava *Hi sava" He like the movie alot but has an open mind and realizes that old time fans like me have a point. I live at HM.com

btw I have a great Hulk 2 script that would more than make up for the first debacle.

Post it over at HM.com I'll see ya there

 

[HoratioRome]

We hardly talk about the movie anymore. Once in awhile a thread will start but it soon dies because we've been over it over and over and over. We're about 50 50 at HM.com. We talk about 24, FF, Batman Begins and other comice and even non-comic movies. It's a great place. Nuff said.

I'll have to stop by one of these days. Oh boy I hardly have enough time in the day as it is with all the forums I visit. But it sounds like a cool place.

Oh yes. As much as I couldn't understand why they thought it necessary to make the changes, for the sake of putting out the flames, I was in a wait and see mode. We did argue vehemently over jellyfish, Starfish and how stupid we thought he looked at 15 feet, but in the end, it was something we had to give it a chance.

What I don't understand now is why people can't understand or get by the fact that the movie we got, for all intent and purposes, basiclly killed the franchise. That is what pisses me off more then anything. And they come back and say, " I don't care if they never make another Hulk movie, I love the one we got." I understand that they love the movie but wouldn't they like to see more Hulk movies? And others say they'd like Ang Lee back!!!! Sheesh!!! Why? To put the final nail in the coffin.

that is precisely, 100% right. I don't understand it. really I don't understand it. it's like these people are fighting for the destruction of the character, in the NAME OF THE CHARACTER.
It's one thing to love something, it's another thing alltogether to shut your eyes to the truth of it.

oh and btw, to answer your earlier question of re-start or sequel, my opinion is that either would be ok with me. BUT, the sequel would have to begin with an explanation (like the first start wars had with the "a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away") that would explain that THIS movie, though a continuation, has somethings that are different from the first Hulk Movie. such as Hulk's size, Rick Jones, Gamma Bomb (maybe even have that scene in a flash back sequence in the movie), another General ross, talbot is NOT a scientist, Betty is Not a scientist, Hulk gets stronger not Bigger when he gets angry and so on and so on.
If that happpened then a sequel would be just fine with me.

Post it over at HM.com I'll see ya there

I've got the plot but haven't written the script yet.

 

[Cracker Jack]

The whole Hulk concept is a big what if.

Really? How so? Isn't issue #1 the origin of the Hulk and all the issues that follow his story? Arn't the "What if" issues just that, What if? Sheesh

 

[Sava]

and the question would be why not? just because YOU don't like third person speech, that doens't make it bad. I would agree with you that it would have to be handled carefully (because it can easily sound silly) but if done well there would be no problem with it at all.

the thing is, we all know they wont, there is more of a chance of them handling the third person thing the wrong way than the right way. Why take a big risk which would make everything look bad, when you can have him talk in a normal way, even if it is in a childish way.

here I would have to ask, how did you become a Hulk fan if you thought the origin was "crazy and Unbelievable"? BTW this "crazy" origin has lasted over 30 years. It happens to work for some specific reasons (most of which were stated earlier byt cracker Jack). and it is no less believable than the crap in Ang's Hulk.

It wasnt Unbelieveable when i was 8 or 9, it is now, i liked the fact that Marvel added more to it with Hulk Grey and saying that David might have been affected by radiation or something like that (cant remember the whole thing). The thing with David paasing something down to Bruce wasnt made up for the movie, it was already in the comics, that made sense to me.

well in a way it kinda does because it means you're not THAT happy with the character as he IS. IOW, you may like the Hulk, but you don't like him THAT much because you have some major problems with him. His origin, his speech, and so on and so on. These issues, like it or not, distance your connection with the character.

Others who DON"t have those issues, who actually LOVE the origin, love the way he speaks, and love the character completely are a little closer and are therefore MORE of a fan than you are. get it?

No one is anymore or less of a fan from anyone else, just because i dont go "oh my god, i love Hulk, i love everything about Hulk.. oh my gawd he could fart on Superman and kill him!!" and s**t like that doesnt make me any less of a fan than you.

 

[Cracker Jack]

It wasnt Unbelieveable when i was 8 or 9, it is now, i liked the fact that Marvel added more to it with Hulk Grey and saying that David might have been affected by radiation or something like that (cant remember the whole thing). The thing with David paasing something down to Bruce wasnt made up for the movie, it was already in the comics, that made sense to me.

Sava, I'm not trying to put you down but nope, it was made up in the movie. In the "The Monster's Analyst" (Hulk #227) it was introduced that The Hulk is subconsciously connected to Bruce's past, but nowhere here did writer Roger Stern even remotely suggest that Brian Banner "created" the Hulk. Furthermore, Stern's story suggested that whatever connection Bruce's Hulk persona had to his family's past existed purely within his subconcious and NOT his physical makeup. This added to Lee and Kirby's idea without destroying it, because it suggested a slight connection without spelling it out for readers. Contrast this with the movie, in which young Bruce is shown turning green twice before David (!) ever picks up a knife and Houston, we have a problem--F'up #4. Kirby's depiction of Banner's accident is one of the most memorable scenes in comic history. By the time Ang actually gets to the accident, it feels like a complete afterthought. I find the gamma accident scene one of the most boring moments in the film, and that's just wrong.

Thats again to Scandy for his insight

And why did they feel the need to change his name to David? It's Brian.

 

[Sava]

Sava, I'm not trying to put you down but nope, it was made up in the movie. In the "The Monster's Analyst" (Hulk #227) it was introduced that The Hulk is subconsciously connected to Bruce's past, but nowhere here did writer Roger Stern even remotely suggest that Brian Banner "created" the Hulk. Furthermore, Stern's story suggested that whatever connection Bruce's Hulk persona had to his family's past existed purely within his subconcious and NOT his physical makeup. This added to Lee and Kirby's idea without destroying it, because it suggested a slight connection without spelling it out for readers. Contrast this with the movie, in which young Bruce is shown turning green twice before David (!) ever picks up a knife and Houston, we have a problem--F'up #4. Kirby's depiction of Banner's accident is one of the most memorable scenes in comic history. By the time Ang actually gets to the accident, it feels like a complete afterthought. I find the gamma accident scene one of the most boring moments in the film, and that's just wrong.

Thats again to Scandy for his insight

And why did they feel the need to change his name to David? It's Brian.

I didnt say that it says he was infected, just that he might have been, Wikipedia says that same thing, Brian was sure that something had happened to him, which for me was enough to show that Bruce isnt normal, there might have been somthing in him to help him live. Your right, they could just say that they dont know the effects of a Gamma Bomb on a human and that when the accident happens its a good enough reason to say that. Its just that with this in there too, it makes him special, there is something different in him that makes him different than anyone else, that effected what happend to him when he got hit by the Gamma Rays, thats all. If not then there would be no Abomination or the Leader and so on, there must be something different in each of these guys that make them who they are.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Well it wouldn't be any worst than Jelly Fish, lizard and Star Fish DNA combined with Nanomeds and then bombarded with Gamma Rays. Why does it have to make sense? Does it make any sense that Banner, a genius, would try to block Gamma Rays with his body eventhough he had to know that they would pass right through him like water through a screen? Does it make any sense that the Gamma Shpere, in real life, does not emit gamma rays it detects them? Does it make any sense.... well you get the idea. Would it work in todays climate? Why wouldn't it? Banners working on a new type of bomb. A Gamma Bomb. One without the nuclear fallout. They don't know for sure what it will do or what effects it will have on living beings. They think that it will destroy building and such but not kill living beings. They were kind of right. There now it's explained.

I think you missed this part of my post:

I was concerned that a "Gamma bomb" would put question marks over everyone's head in the audience...but a good script could explain what a Gamma bomb is in a few minutes. It wouldn't even have to make a lot of sense...just be a new kind of bomb that Bruce was working on.

I agree. No reason to bend over backward to make it all "make sense". It is just a movie after all.

I'm just wondering if anyone in Hollywood would base the origin on a "bomb" in the current political climate. I'm not saying it isn't stupid (I detest politics), but that could be an issue for them.

Just changing it to a different form might accomplish the same thing without killing the feel of the original origin. Kinda like how I had no problem with Spidey have organic web shooters.

As a matter of fact...I like the web thing better...why shouldn't Peter get that power from a spider? He got all the other stuff and didn't get that one? Convincing an audience that a high school guy becomes the "world's foremost expert on webbing" so he can build web shooters seems like a tough one. And frankly, the "Peter's web shooters run out of fluid or malfunction" became way overdone in the comic.

(As you can see...I'm not purist. My opinions on the movie Hulk just stem from a desire to see him done well. Which, by most accounts, was not the case.)

 

[Sava]

in the movie they took the idea of "something may have happened to Brain" and changed it to "Brain did experiment on himself"

 

[Sava]

just to be clear, i would love to see the GBomb experiment, and the accident and Bruce saving Rick's life, just the stuff after that i want sorted out, you know, as to why or how he survives. I guess i'm one of those people who needs things to be explained in a realistic way even if it is a movie about a Giant green man

 

[JeetKuneDo]

And now I see why you don't like links to support what you say.

Anyway I just show you the way you like it: what people say. If this very poll was against Lee I wouldn't mind it, but since you pay so much attention of what other people say in order to generate your own opinions, there you are.

That was a poll about Ang Lee? I hated Hulk and would vote to not restart. I want a Hulk 2...not a repeat of the origin. I mean...I would like to see it done right...but come on....that would be a huge waste to redo it.

And what's with the special effects? Do you think a talking Hulk would automatically mean a better special effects?

Yes. Half the battle with special effects is the environment they exist in. A CGI character with no personality will look more fake than a CGI character with a personality every time.

Mistery solved.

You love crap. You want Hulk to be a crap you can love.

Though you know I admire your impressive detective skills, I think you've not yet solved the "mistery". I submit that I do not desire the next Hulk movie to be crap...as the first one was regarded.

Yeah, fantastic masterpieces, FF, DD, Punisher. The only way you know Catwoman was crap is because audiences said so.

I dunno...the fact that Catwoman was crap had something to do with it.

Dear god, only way for a character to communicate: talking.

Not the only way. But no reason to make a talking character mute just because it's possible to communicate without talking. It's possible to walk from New York to LA, but I wouldn't recommend it. Flying seems more efficient.

You love the origin, now you wanna change it for... a bomb that replace oil??? With such great ideas why to complain about changing the origin?

I believe you've misquoted me.

Maybe a new source of energy that would replace oil instead of a bomb?

Being a fan doesn't mean to blindly follow every single detail (even the wrong ones). That's more of a geek.

...Like a Hulk movie geek might? (Jeet braces for the storm of otherworldly retorts that will come his way in response to this insult.)

I'll just get into the mood of your posts by summing up all the brilliant insults into one big ball of brilliance and responding in kind with:

"You big dumb ole stupid head!" "Spaghetti face!" "Smelly sock guy fellow!" (A new super hero idea?)

There...that should fit right in with the theme of your posts.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I think you missed this part of my post:
I agree. No reason to bend over backward to make it all "make sense". It is just a movie after all.

I'm just wondering if anyone in Hollywood would base the origin on a "bomb" in the current political climate. I'm not saying it isn't stupid (I detest politics), but that could be an issue for them.

No, I know what you were saying. I was just being a smartass. sorry

I have no probmel with updating it, if necessary. That's the opertive word here, necessary. I hate politics and political correctness. EGADS!! In my opinion there was no real need to update it to "FIT IN." I mean I've heard make Rick an animal activists or a protester. That sounds like a good idea. Unless you're like me and think, "do I really care if an animal activists or a protester get blown up?" LOL A stupid kid on a dare you can kinda feel sorry for. J/k

(As you can see...I'm not purist. My opinions on the movie Hulk just stem from a desire to see him done well. Which, by most accounts, was not the case.)

I guess I'm Old school. Mostely because I've been called that. Oh well. I like my Hulk the way the Hulk is...un...er....was. No growth hormones, jelly fish DNA and able to express himself with a hardy "Hulk Smash Punny Humans"

 

[Cracker Jack]

Its just that with this in there too, it makes him special, there is something different in him that makes him different than anyone else, that effected what happend to him when he got hit by the Gamma Rays, thats all. If not then there would be no Abomination or the Leader and so on, there must be something different in each of these guys that make them who they are.

There already is something different in everyone. Banners dad thought because he worked around radiation that it got into he blood and effected Bruce. He was also nutts and a boozer. I understand what you're saying Sava. Again, I'm just being a smartass.

Sam Sterns was working as a laborer hauling a load of waste material when a gamma ray cylinder exploded and the Leader was born. We all know the story of Abomi

 

[Sava]

There already is something different in everyone. Banners dad thought because he worked around radiation that it got into he blood and effected Bruce. He was also nutts and a boozer. I understand what you're saying Sava. Again, I'm just being a smartass.

Sam Sterns was working as a laborer hauling a load of waste material when a gamma ray cylinder exploded and the Leader was born. We all know the story of Abomi

thats why i really want a damn sequel, Abomi's Comic book origin is so perfect and made for the big screen.

 

[Cracker Jack]

thats why i really want a damn sequel, Abomi's Comic book origin is so perfect and made for the big screen.

Sava, The Abomination was originally a spy who stumbled across Bruce's Gamma Ray Machine and he purposely exposed himself to gamma radiation, turning himself into the Abomination. How is that perfect?

 

[Sava]

Sava, The Abomination was originally a spy who stumbled across Bruce's Gamma Ray Machine and he purposely exposed himself to gamma radiation, turning himself into the Abomination. How is that perfect?

some of it would have to be changed, like him being a spy for Russia, that would have to change for him working for Atheon. Because Atheon wants to know everything, they could have him experiment on himself. Mean while Bruce could be in Brazil or some where but finds it hard to cope with Hulk and feels that he's loseing control of his life and that there is no cure, he comes back, tries to kill himself, sets everything up. Emil finds out that he's here, follows him. When everything is set up and ready to go, guards bust in and Bruce and the guards get into a fight and accidentally set off the timer, they take him away and Emil is left in the room all alone and gets hit by radiation. its that simple

 

[JeetKuneDo]

No, I know what you were saying. I was just being a smartass. sorry

My smartass radar didn't even go off!

I have no probmel with updating it, if necessary. That's the opertive word here, necessary. I hate politics and political correctness. EGADS!! In my opinion there was no real need to update it to "FIT IN." I mean I've heard make Rick an animal activists or a protester. That sounds like a good idea. Unless you're like me and think, "do I really care if an animal activists or a protester get blown up?" LOL A stupid kid on a dare you can kinda feel sorry for. J/k


I guess I'm Old school. Mostely because I've been called that. Oh well. I like my Hulk the way the Hulk is...un...er....was. No growth hormones, jelly fish DNA and able to express himself with a hardy "Hulk Smash Punny Humans"

Yeah...(sigh) ...I hate how politics has to effect "our" movies. Politics is silly enough without spilling over into the world of entertainment.

Hey...the more I read you, the more you seem to be a kindred spirit. A gifted filmmaker can make "Hulk smash!" come off perfectly...just like it reads in the comic...and make sense. A lousy filmmaker will screw up the most "intelligent" dialog too.

Whoever was in charge of this stuff in the Hulk movie, be it Lee or someone else, they did not appear to understand the Hulk.

 

[Sava]

they didnt get anyone from the comic book world involved or any Hulk fans involved in the script stage