The Dark Knight How did Joker leave the...

[Godman]

Did you watch that with freakin 1st graders????

Yea right come on dude, what morons are in that theater? It's common sense.

 

[DeaDheaD]

I understand the million ways he could've escaped, but shouldn't this have been a good 5 second clip to show lol? I mean all the people around me in the theater were confused for a good 10 minutes after this wondering where he went

Dont go to the theater with those people for Batman 3

 

[J.Howlett]

It's not a plothole one bit. It would've been nice to see the actually escape and the aftermath of what happened after Batman caught Rachel...

...but, considering how far Batman fell, the Joker would've had plenty of time to get out.

It's an unimportant aspect to the film.

What was a somewhat plothole was when the hell did Gordon decide to fake his own death and how the hell were Dent and Batman in on it...or was I reading that whole situation wrong...?

And technically, Gordon didn't really need to fake his death, per se.

 

[War Party]

It's not a plothole one bit. It would've been nice to see the actually escape and the aftermath of what happened after Batman caught Rachel...

...but, considering how far Batman fell, the Joker would've had plenty of time to get out.

It's an unimportant aspect to the film.

What was a somewhat plothole was when the hell did Gordon decide to fake his own death and how the hell were Dent and Batman in on it...or was I reading that whole situation wrong...?

And technically, Gordon didn't really need to fake his death, per se.

The reason Gordan faked his death was to protect his family. Since Loeb was killed, he felt he would be the next obvious target. So by faking his death, there was no threat against his family and obviously him.

 

[tamron]

I would've liked it better explained within the scene as well, but Joker did kind of give his logic in the interrogation scene. Remember, he says something to the effect of "For a minute there I thought you were Dent, the way you jumped after her..." If he really thought Dent was Batman at that point, he had no reason to stay.

 

[JL Unlimited]

Posted this in the other thread:

Not sure if this has been mentioned. Remember that picture from one of the virals that has Joker sitting in the back of the car with his fingers pressed against each other that wasn't in the movie. I think I know what scene that was.

I was reading through the novel and after Batman saves Rachel from the drop during Dent's fundraiser, the Joker and his henchmen make their getaway in a car before Batman comes back. In the car, the Joker is giddy and laughing and he starts to wonder if Batman saves all innocent people or maybe he just has special feelings for Rachel. In either case, he's ecstatic because he's realized that Batman IS willing to save innocent people at the risk of his own life and THAT is his weakness.

So that probably clears it up for some people that had problems with Batman leaving the people at the party with The Joker.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

wow...how in the heck is this a "plothole"
its not even a big deal...prolly took the elevator and left out the back door or somethin?

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Posted this in the other thread:

Not sure if this has been mentioned. Remember that picture from one of the virals that has Joker sitting in the back of the car with his fingers pressed against each other that wasn't in the movie. I think I know what scene that was.

I was reading through the novel and after Batman saves Rachel from the drop during Dent's fundraiser, the Joker and his henchmen make their getaway in a car before Batman comes back. In the car, the Joker is giddy and laughing and he starts to wonder if Batman saves all innocent people or maybe he just has special feelings for Rachel. In either case, he's ecstatic because he's realized that Batman IS willing to save innocent people at the risk of his own life and THAT is his weakness.

So that probably clears it up for some people that had problems with Batman leaving the people at the party with The Joker.

Hope that clears things up for people.

Question now is, did Nolan film that part, because we did get a still pic of the Joker in the back of that car and his goon behind the wheel. Or was that just a promo pic?

 

[TheBat812]

If you didn't understand he tossed Rachel out to have time to flee, than you're an idiot. It's completely unnecessary to show him leave. That moment is meant for Rachel and Batman, not the Joker.

 

[Nightmare]

He took mastah wayne's choppah

 

[The Guard]

The main plothole is that Batman never ever follows up on it. There's a madman threatening his guests...and the movie just never deals with it. That IS a plothole, whether you want to believe it or not, and a sizeable one.

 

[CleftAsunder]

The main plothole is that Batman never ever follows up on it. There's a madman threatening his guests...and the movie just never deals with it. That IS a plothole, whether you want to believe it or not, and a sizeable one.

He didn't care about the guests. He was only interested in getting to Harvey Dent. The Joker doesn't go around killing people at random. If you haven't figured that out by now then you need to go watch it again.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He just left. What else was he going to do? He couldn't find Dent. He left.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The main plothole is that Batman never ever follows up on it. There's a madman threatening his guests...and the movie just never deals with it. That IS a plothole, whether you want to believe it or not, and a sizeable one.

Why? He isn't there for the guest. He wants them to tell him where Dent is. If Batman is Dent (Like he said he did assume) there is nothing the guest can give him.

 

[bgates87]

Ok so let me get this straight; The Joker robs a bank in the middle of the day and drives off in a school bus full of the mob's money. He walks into a meeting of Gotham's most dangerous mob bosses, kills a guy, and walks out while basically insulting them the entire time. He escapes from jail despite being surrounded by police officers with their guns drawn. He does all of this, and you are complaining because you didn't get to see how he escapes from a room full of unarmed, terrified citizens? Give me a break.

You guys know this is The Joker we're talking about, right? He obviously has a knack for escaping sticky situations, do we really need to see it every time?

 

[StorminNorman]

Yes it is. Many of his thugs were incapacitated, he was surrounded by plenty of abled-bodied men, not to mention Batman was just fine hanging out on the ground with Rachel 10 seconds after the fall. Batman didnt bother to grapple back up or inquire about Joker any longer? The fall for Batman took approx. 10 seconds, and Joker was stuck on the top floor of a skyscraper. No way he had time to take the elevator down and walk on out.

*Edit: Im not just nitpicking about things, I know in my heart it was a masterpiece, but at the same time, even as a filmmaker, the cuts left more plotholes than any film I've ever seen in my life.

Please.

No one in that party was going to mess with the Joker - it was a bunch of rich stuff shirt guys that have spent their entire lives in fear of (or in bed with) evil.

Not a plot hole here.

 

[The Guard]

It's all well and good for The Joker to just leave...but no one finds it odd that after a man and his armed henchman take over a party of Gotham's wealthiest citizens that no one follows up on it? Batman doesn't go make sure everyone's ok, no cops arrive...

It's not a huge plot hole, but come on...

 

[TheDarkJoker]

What if he got away when the Bat leaves him hanging?
We never see GPD picking him up.

 

[CleftAsunder]

It's all well and good for The Joker to just leave...but no one finds it odd that after a man and his armed henchman take over a party of Gotham's wealthiest citizens that no one follows up on it? Batman doesn't go make sure everyone's ok, no cops arrive...

It's not a huge plot hole, but come on...

Read JL Unlimited's post above.

 

[BatoutofHell]

What if he got away when the Bat leaves him hanging?
We never see GPD picking him up.

I've seen it twice and I'm fairly certain a SWAT team comes up on him laughing his ass off.

 

[Ashkong]

He didn't care about the guests. He was only interested in getting to Harvey Dent. The Joker doesn't go around killing people at random. If you haven't figured that out by now then you need to go watch it again.

isn't Batman supposed to care about the citizens of Gotham? (hmm?) ::joker voice::

 

[Hole Shot]

Penthouse? How did he get away? Batman landed with Rachel and then what, walked away? Wasnt Joker still up their with the guests?

He fired a balloon out of his pants and a C130 caught him.

 

[Forever is over]

It's all well and good for The Joker to just leave...but no one finds it odd that after a man and his armed henchman take over a party of Gotham's wealthiest citizens that no one follows up on it? Batman doesn't go make sure everyone's ok, no cops arrive...

It's not a huge plot hole, but come on...

It is not a plot hole at all. I am sure the guests were looked after and the police arrived it is simply not worth spending screen time showing it. Most people should be capable of deductive reasoning and realize that the Joker created an escape by tossing Rachel out a window. No need at all to see it.

 

[tw9876z]

dude, you seriously cant expect them to show everything in this movie. why show something when we know what happens.

and then the worries about his thugs. its pretty obvious he doesnt care about them after he kills them and leaves them to be captured alot of times. so why would he worry about the ones knocked out on the floor.

 

[TheDarkJoker]

I'll check it tomorrow again.