How to Kill Wolverine

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, I got a good laugh out of that and J, more of the latter.

But this topic has degenerated into well, crap.

 

[Tropico]

Just like the scene that caused this thread to be formed. Crap begets crap.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

lol, Darth's padiwan I see.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

can someone explain the "wolvie survived a nuke thing" to me? Nitro's explosions aren't nuclear are they?? i assumed you were referring to another occasion.

also the only explanation i will accept for the last ish and the nitro explosion incident would be if it wasnt really wolverine but a robot.lol. aint gona happen.

i could, at a stretch, believe some cells survived in his skull. though not encased, the adamantium itself wasnt melted (or even frikin' scattered) so i guess its possible for things to survive within it.

i also believe that a pertition should be started (maybe such threads on many boards such as this would be enough) to make marvel explain the power upgrades to wolverine. im reading hulk 181 online atm and its hilarious to see wolvie at his beginning compared to now. damn he was like spider-man with claws -- bounces EVERYWHERE.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

I'd be more inclined to start a petition to have Ultimates on time or to know why they screwed up the 'Strange' run.

 

[Darthphere]

Just like the scene that caused this thread to be formed. Crap begets crap.

It's true my padawan.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

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[Tropico]

can someone explain the "wolvie survived a nuke thing" to me? Nitro's explosions aren't nuclear are they?? i assumed you were referring to another occasion.

also the only explanation i will accept for the last ish and the nitro explosion incident would be if it wasnt really wolverine but a robot.lol. aint gona happen.

i could, at a stretch, believe some cells survived in his skull. though not encased, the adamantium itself wasnt melted (or even frikin' scattered) so i guess its possible for things to survive within it.

i also believe that a pertition should be started (maybe such threads on many boards such as this would be enough) to make marvel explain the power upgrades to wolverine. im reading hulk 181 online atm and its hilarious to see wolvie at his beginning compared to now. damn he was like spider-man with claws -- bounces EVERYWHERE.

I haven't seen the nuke thing, but apparently that one is even more ridiculous since I've read that he came out wearing his pants.

Considering Nitro's explosion vaporized the SHIELD agents it stands to reason that the force was enough to liquify whatever organic matter he had (even surrounded by Adamantium) and the resulting heat would vaporize the rest. I see no reason for his brain to survive (nor parts of it) since there are enough cavities that lead to it and would allow the entrance of the fire/heat to destroy any gray matter in the skull cavity. From what we've seen in the comics Adamantium is a magnetic and conductive metal, so it also stands to reason that any matter adhered to the metal would be flash fried.

It doesn't look like Nitro's explosion are nuclear nor radioactive since we haven't heard anything about it in the CW comics. Rescue crews were walking aroud without containments suits at the site of the disaster along with many of the heroes.

 

[KAD]

I haven't seen the nuke thing, but apparently that one is even more ridiculous since I've read that he came out wearing his pants.

Considering Nitro's explosion vaporized the SHIELD agents it stands to reason that the force was enough to liquify whatever organic matter he had (even surrounded by Adamantium) and the resulting heat would vaporize the rest. I see no reason for his brain to survive (nor parts of it) since there are enough cavities that lead to it and would allow the entrance of the fire/heat to destroy any gray matter in the skull cavity. From what we've seen in the comics Adamantium is a magnetic and conductive metal, so it also stands to reason that any matter adhered to the metal would be flash fried.

It doesn't look like Nitro's explosion are nuclear nor radioactive since we haven't heard anything about it in the CW comics. Rescue crews were walking aroud without containments suits at the site of the disaster along with many of the heroes.

His blasts are radioactive ask Capt. Marvel

 

[MyPokerShirt]

captain marvel was killed by some toxin or other that nitro was trying to steal. it caused him cancer later in life. nothing really to do with nitro, accept that i think he's the one that (accidently) exposed cap to it. and yeah, tropico, probs not radioatve -- no hazmat suits in civil war. good point, i was thinkin that myself ... i swear

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

captain marvel was killed by some toxin or other that nitro was trying to steal. it caused him cancer later in life. nothing really to do with nitro, accept that i think he's the one that (accidently) exposed cap to it. and yeah, tropico, probs not radioatve -- no hazmat suits in civil war. good point, i was thinkin that myself ... i swear

Nerve gas that gave him the crab disease.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

crabs?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

crabs?

Cancer. It was originally named Carcinos, which is Latin for crab, because the person who discovered it thought it resembled a crab.

Hippocrates maybe?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Nitro's blasts certainly weren't nuclear or radioactive in the last Heroes for Hire series. I don't know if it's changed since then or if that was some aberration, but he was throwing explosions around pretty generously and none of the Heroes for Hire got cancer.

 

[KAD]

Nitro's blasts certainly weren't nuclear or radioactive in the last Heroes for Hire series. I don't know if it's changed since then or if that was some aberration, but he was throwing explosions around pretty generously and none of the Heroes for Hire got cancer.

I could be wrong but I could swear thats how Capt. Marvel's cancer was explained.

If Nitro had exposed cap wouldn't he have cancer too.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

it was definitely the nerve gas. and damnit, i wish cap marvel had crabs. would make me feel better *scratches*

 

[kainedamo]

For how long exactly was Wolverine capable of healing from a single cell??

As far as I know he has NEVER been capable of that. Except for maybe the nuke issue and the recent issue.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

apparently it was a claremont issue so way back. someone posted the page somewhere. was it on this board? who knows.

 

[Tropico]

captain marvel was killed by some toxin or other that nitro was trying to steal. it caused him cancer later in life. nothing really to do with nitro, accept that i think he's the one that (accidently) exposed cap to it. and yeah, tropico, probs not radioatve -- no hazmat suits in civil war. good point, i was thinkin that myself ... i swear

LOL, 'sokay, Poker. I could be wrong since I don't know all that much about the character and someone else could have come in and told me that he IS radioactive and proved me wrong. It would have been a Marvel boo-boo, though; considering we haven't seen evidence to that. Not in CW nor in Wolverine. Of course, Marvel has been playing it a lil' loose these days so we (in we, I include Marvel) could be wrong.

 

[KAD]

it was definitely the nerve gas. and damnit, i wish cap marvel had crabs. would make me feel better *scratches*

after researching the issue, you are correct

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

it was definitely the nerve gas. and damnit, i wish cap marvel had crabs. would make me feel better *scratches*

How would that make you feel better?

Would you feel that you could relate to him better?

 

[Tropico]

Uh, yeah, didn't you notice the "*scratches*" it means he's got crabs too.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

*Scoots away from Poker. Far away.*

 

[Fading]

1) I suggest you read Hulk:Future Imperfect. In the future the Hulk conquers the world and the only way they beat him was sending him back to the exact moment the hulk was created at ground zero...he was vaporized.
2)The various threads about Spider-man were merged into one single thread...do a poll and see howmany people love the spider stingers.
3)So everything that happens to one character has to happen to Wolverine???? Northstar came out of the closet I guess that means Wolverine is next right????

1. Far as I remember, didn't a nuke create Maestro, by evolving the hulk, the same nuke that killed everyone else, also apparently Abomination and She-hulk evolved in it too making She-Hulk Shulkie. Also what "Killed" Maestro was a gamma bomb wasn't it? Not a nuke. Second pretty sure Maestro's still alive since he was seen fighting Capt. Marvel and Spiderman later on after his 'death'. I am not totally ignorant lol. Also if I remember right Wolverine wasn't hit with a flat out nuke, just a big bomb. It may have mushroom clouded, but don't think it was radioactive, that bomb was contained in a forest if I'm right, a nuke is far larger of an impact. It's like comparing a gun with a rocket launcher IMO.

2. Maybe so, but after this post someone else made a suspension of disbelief post purely on Wolverine in a world of mutant machines from space using cosmic powers lol.

3. There's a difference from Marvel beefing up all characters, and one character going gay. If character A gets more powerful and used to brawl with character B, then Character B gets more powerful and Character C who fought with both stays stagnent, then those stories can't happen. Hulk continually upgrades, Spiderman went under two upgrades himself, with Civil war coming up and characters like Thor coming back, if Wolverine doesn't have something upped then he can't be more than a cheerleader in the story since he probably couldn't keep up with the constant upgrades others have had.

Wolverine's their most popular, or second most popular character and they want him as a big player finally. They made a mistake in the way they wrote it and probably took his sudden upgrade to disgusting heights, but in Marvel's eyes this must be what they want. They write the comics, and while I prefer a more human Wolverine it's not like he's bench pressing planets. This was pretty out there, but is it really more out there than characters ripping portals thru space and time with pure strength, or Spiderman growing back eyes and evolving twice, and growing stingers...last time I checked Spiderman can't grow eyeballs, and can't regen body parts. Unless I missed some 'explanation' as to why he did it.

BTW I know your tired of hearing it but Wolverine will die when Marvel is ready for it. He may be 'unkillable' in your eyes, but a future writer will snuff him out when the time comes. I like a Wolverine in peril, but he's heading the way all Marvel comics main characters have already started heading, I think it's a bad move, but he's not the only one. His powers just happen to deal with regeneration, if he was superstrengthed he probably would have been seen lifting something it'd take the hulk to do in that panel.

 

[Nathan]

3. There's a difference from Marvel beefing up all characters, and one character going gay.

And there's also a difference between giving a character an upgrade and making him flat out immortal.

Hulk continually upgrades, Spiderman went under two upgrades himself, with Civil war coming up and characters like Thor coming back, if Wolverine doesn't have something upped then he can't be more than a cheerleader in the story since he probably couldn't keep up with the constant upgrades others have had.

Captain America didn't get any upgrades and he doesn't have handy healing powers that let him recover from fatal injuries. All he has are his shield and skills and he is still keeping up.

So if someone with like 100 years of experience, extensive martial arts training, an indestructible adamantium skeleton and a healing factor that lets him survive the most fatal of injuries, does require a upgrade so he's able to "keep up", then he must have sucked as a character in general.