Is it just me or is the tide of opinion turning on this movie?

Is this forum now turning into a Hater forum?. Why are we allowing posts filled with hatred that dont contribute with anything?

I think you need to follow your own advice. All you ever do is criticize anyone who is negative towards this movie. Calling someone a hater a million times isn't going to get your point across. Don't you ever get bored of repeating yourself? Everyone has an opinion. Most people on here don't like what they see. I suggest you respect that and move on.
 
I would like for JoseMP to come to my psychology class, we can study his ignorance and possibly help him
 
I think you need to follow your own advice. All you ever do is criticize anyone who is negative towards this movie. Calling someone a hater a million times isn't going to get your point across. Don't you ever get bored of repeating yourself? Everyone has an opinion. Most people on here don't like what they see. I suggest you respect that and move on.
speaking of which...what i'm about to say may be off topic and yet on topic(it's not about JoseMP but it fits in the thread) ...humm...this whole thing about ''the tide of opinion turning on this movie''-it's just an impression,cuz maybe,just maybe people who are still pessimistic about this movie got tired of repeating themselves on and on and didn't want to embarrase themselves ...
 
Yeah...the tide of opinion may be turning SLIGHTLY. That's it really. Fox needs to get their head out of their ass and promote the movie already.
 
Yeah...the tide of opinion may be turning SLIGHTLY. That's it really. Fox needs to get their head out of their ass and promote the movie already.
to fox this is not their TF,gi joe,or batman. this is a small movie for them with a big budget.

gi joe movie is IMO more for the masses then DB:E. it looks like that with gi joe they want to copy a little from the transformers.
 
Wow im very popular in this forum. Everyone mentions me :D
 
That's what happens when your... ahead of the curve... everybody thinks your crazy...

-- More improvised TDK quotes at 9
 
Who are you quoting thegameq?

Not you StylishHokie21 -- Love that screen name, it makes me giggle--or anyone in particular.

It's a bit of sarcasm aimed at the small consensus that DB:E will actually be something special. People who are optimistic about DB:E are missing the main sticking points (besides faithfullness) that got so many people in an uproar.

The film looks cheap. The film looks like another American wannabe kung fu flick with a white guy in the lead to sell more tickets. Note: it's not about the race as much as it is about the principal.

DB should be a quirky fantasy film that would attract both kids and adults--but mainly an audience that likes such films, i.e., more than likely, not everyone. If Fox wanted a property that would attact and appeal to general audiences they should have chosen a property with more mainstream appeal rather than trying to shoehorn DB into a package for mainstream audiences.

The blue print for this film was Kung Fu Hustle - all they had to do was follow that films lead.

Look no one can truely argue with someone for being optimistic, but why just accept it? Inarguably, based on what we've seen, this is a very disappointing and lackluster adaptation of DB. As has been said time and time again when it comes to trying to adapt rich fantasy based material to the big screen:

"If you're not going to do it right, don't do it at all."

The notion of trying to make a "serious" film out of DB is like trying to take a property like the Flintstones and trying to make a serious film out of it. DB is absurd and quirky, so why try to pry it into something it isn't?

Perhaps the biggest tide against this film is the same tide that causes other lackluster fantasy films to stick out like a sore thumb. The obvious, inevitable and justly comparison to the better or greater films in the genre.

Fans have seen the better fantasy films and what can truly be done with fantasy properties when the people involved truly care about their craft and product and aren't in it mostly for the money. The difference between the two is almost night and day. Pick any of the high profile fantasy film properties of this generation and compare them to what we've seen from DB. Yeah, I know, it might not seem fair considering the film isn't out yet. But come on, do you really need to see **** even though you an smell it?

Come on, honestly, tell me this film is going to be something great and special on screen...

All the fans really ever want is for the people making these films to care about the product --while they probably won't care as much as the fans--the fans just want them to care enough to put forth a great effort, rather than making their ulterior motives so blatantly obvious.
 
Thanks for the compliment. You summed up how I feel pretty much. Great post.
 
All the fans really ever want is for the people making these films to care about the product --while they probably won't care as much as the fans--the fans just want them to care enough to put forth a great effort, rather than making their ulterior motives so blatantly obvious.

yeaaah!!:grin:
 
to fox this is not their TF,gi joe,or batman. this is a small movie for them with a big budget.

gi joe movie is IMO more for the masses then DB:E. it looks like that with gi joe they want to copy a little from the transformers.

Smart thinking, Fox. :whatever:
 
like someone already said this was tushed because of the strike. lets not forget tha tthis movie was pushed back. it was first meant to be realesed in 2008.
 
All the fans really ever want is for the people making these films to care about the product --while they probably won't care as much as the fans--the fans just want them to care enough to put forth a great effort, rather than making their ulterior motives so blatantly obvious.

The creators should consider the fans, but not completely. Fans are TOO HARD to please. Fans want flying nimbus, talking animals, etc etc. Im a fan myself but I know there are changes that are necessary for this movie to look good in live action. Some things in the anime, that looked good there, would look BAD in live action.

Do you really think talking animals would look good?, most people would laugh at that and think this movie is stupid. Please dont bring Chronicles of Narnia, because that movie is for 5 year old kids. I know some adults liked it, but I wouldnt want DB to be done that way. I like the "serious" approach they are taking for this movie.

When I found out this movie was being made, I was scared and was opposed to it. I said: "leave Dragonball as an anime, it wont work in live action", but then I read about the changes and I started liking the changes. After all, they are going to tell the SAME GREAT EPIC story we love in a different way, a serious interesting way, not in a kiddie-dumb way (Like Narnia, I apologize to those who liked it). This is the only way (or at least one of the few ways) that a DB movie can look good in live action. Some ridiculous stuff (that look good in anime) would look stupid in live action.

So what about highschool?, they need to introduce Goku to the non-fans, if you had read the script you would realize the highschool scenes are not that long and are not that bad, they are actually interesting, they are a way to make the non fans know what Goku is. Actually im starting to like the highschool aspect of the movie. Goku is not a nerdy idiot, he knows he can beat the bullies with 1 hit, but he needs to control himself. He knows hes not a normal human, he is "something else", "something strong" that will be revealed later on in the movie. See? for us fans, that might be stupid because we know hes not human, hes an alien from another planet, he belongs to a strong alien race of warriors. But non fans dont know this, the regular movie goers, they will be wondering what Goku is, why is he that strong? why is he diffrent? etc. The mysterious aspect is there. Thats a good element for a movie.

This movie will be good. Fans... part of them are whiners and cry babies. Take for example Xmen3 and Spiderman3. I enjoyed both movies, most people I know who go to the movies to be entertained and have a good time, enjoyed those movies. See? People go to the movies to enjoy a movie, not to critize if the color of X character is Brown and not Blue, or if the arms of X character isnt that buffed, etc etc. See my point? Some fans are annoying. Most are hard to please. Why care about them?.
 
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The creators should consider the fans, but not completely. Fans are TOO HARD to please. Fans want flying nimbus, talking animals, etc etc. Im a fan myself but I know there are changes that are necessary for this movie to look good in live action. Some things in the anime, that looked good there, would look BAD in live action.

How do you know? It's been done countless times in other movies, so what's the big deal? This is a fantasy film after all.
Do you really think talking animals would look good?, most people would laugh at that and think this movie is stupid. Please dont bring Chronicles of Narnia, because that movie is for 5 year old kids. I know some adults liked it, but I wouldnt want DB to be done that way. I like the "serious" approach they are taking for this movie.

I think it would if it was treated with respect. Why do you like this "serious" approach? If they were actually taking this seriously, they wouldn't have all these ridiculous changes. Take a look at Watchmen. That's how you adapt something that stays true to the source material.
When I found out this movie was being made, I was scared and was opposed to it. I said: "leave Dragonball as an anime, it wont work in live action", but then I read about the changes and I started liking the changes. After all, they are going to tell the SAME GREAT EPIC story we love in a different way, a serious interesting way, not in a kiddie-dumb way (Like Narnia, I apologize to those who liked it). This is the only way (or at least one of the few ways) that a DB movie can look good in live action. Some ridiculous stuff (that look good in anime) would look stupid in live action.

I find that hard to believe. Why do you like these changes so much? I don't recall you ever mentioning why you accepted these changes since you're such a big fan. We don't what will happen since we haven't seen the movie yet, but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. Please don't put the word "epic" and DB in the same sentence. You know this isn't going to happen with a half assed 90 minute movie.
So what about highschool?, they need to introduce Goku to the non-fans, if you had read the script you would realize the highschool scenes are not that long and are not that bad, they are actually interesting, they are a way to make the non fans know what Goku is. Actually im starting to like the highschool aspect of the movie. Goku is not a nerdy idiot, he knows he can beat the bullies with 1 hit, but he needs to control himself. He knows hes not a normal human, he is "something else", "something strong" that will be revealed later on in the movie. See? for us fans, that might be stupid because we know hes not human, hes an alien from another planet, he belongs to a strong alien race of warriors. But non fans dont know this, the regular movie goers, they will be wondering what Goku is, why is he that strong? why is he diffrent? etc. The mysterious aspect is there. Thats a good element for a movie.

Why is high school necessary? To introduce Goku to non-fans? That's complete ********. I read the script and the scenes were terrible. There was nothing slightly interesting about them. Ben Ramsey is a terrible writer for one. Non fans will be watching the high school stuff and think of Spider-Man.
This movie will be good. Fans... part of them are whiners and cry babies. Take for example Xmen3 and Spiderman3. I enjoyed both movies, most people I know who go to the movies to be entertained and have a good time, enjoyed those movies. See? People go to the movies to enjoy a movie, not to critize if the color of X character is Brown and not Blue, or if the arms of X character isnt that buffed, etc etc. See my point? Some fans are annoying. Most are hard to please. Why care about them?.
You always say the movie will be good, which is fine, but you never explain why.It always comes back to the fans and "haters." X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3 were loathed so much because they were half assed. That's not really hard to understand if you were on here back in 2006 and 2007. You do have a point though. People go to movies to be entertained, but it's not always like that. Wouldn't you rather go see a faithful adaptation and be entertained?
 
Unfortunately, doing a very faithful Dragonball would require a very very good scriptwriter and director, and most likely a trilogy just for Dragonball. Maybe I could make them in the future, hm? :)
For now, I am able to enjoy this movie for what it is. An adaption.
 
Fans want flying nimbus, talking animals, etc etc. Im a fan myself but I know there are changes that are necessary for this movie to look good in live action. Some things in the anime, that looked good there, would look BAD in live action.

Do you really think talking animals would look good?, most people would laugh at that and think this movie is stupid.

no,they don't.and..no,they wouldn't....nimbus would be ok-that is if they'd actually try,but talking animals-well..i have to agree with you on this one-they'd just distract people's attention from noticing the essence of the movie...u can't have a perfect piccolo and those ''characters'' in the same movie...
 
I wish I could send a recording of Bale's outburst on the Terminator set in July to James Wong labeled... "Batman hates your movie"

Just Bale screaming into his ears would put some sense into him...
 
I think after seeing the Japan TV Spot alot of people are going to give this movie the chance it deserves.
 
i see you keep insisting on using 'hater'...just know that you're being extremely rude and obnoxious and narrow minded every time you do.

Are you thirsty Dorky...are you thirsty? Do you need something to quench that thirst.... well holla at me, because I got that piff... 3 flavas, 3 gallons of fresh...cool...
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I think there is a small amount of upswing in the opinion polls for this movie.
I've shared the trailers with would-be "haters", and find them coming away more and more impressed.
Now. that's a small number of people, a handful really. but if it might serve as a control for surveying the rest of the population...
yeh, there's a small change of opinion for this movie.

There's a small glimmer of hope building. I think FOX needs to get off their arses and get the promo for this rolling and build on the slight improvement in general opinion...



mmmm... haterade... i like mine in grape!!!
 
Are you thirsty Dorky...are you thirsty? Do you need something to quench that thirst.... well holla at me, because I got that piff... 3 flavas, 3 gallons of fresh...cool...
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There's that word again. It's embedded in your vocabulary apparently.
 
dude it was a joke, more like a parody of JoseMP's philosophy ...chillax

I've never called a single person in here a hater,
 
I wish I could send a recording of Bale's outburst on the Terminator set in July to James Wong labeled... "Batman hates your movie"

Just Bale screaming into his ears would put some sense into him...

I could see that happening. That rant remix was hilarious. :hehe:
 

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