It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's the Superman Costume Thread!

[Super Kal]

Why? The whole point I'm trying to make is, it's not made for how it looks in person. It's made for how it looks on screen. It may be dark in person, but it pops in photographs.

i only worry because i do not know how they mean to portray it on screen... like you said, it changes with photos, i understand that... that doesn't concern me. what does concern me, is that we still dont know what the shade the director intends for us to see...

remembering Superman Returns, the footage from the Sony footage that they released without the filter looked beautiful, but that's not what Singer wanted us to see... he turned that 'electric blue" that Mingenbach said in an interview, into a straight up green/cyan, and made the red a putrid brown, and that was the shade we were intended to see.

hopefully you can understand why im slightly concerned here...

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

From the few brief glimpses we've had of Superman footage I'd say there is nothing to worry about.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I think some of you guys just worry about nothing...if the shade of blue and red are what's going to ruin the movie for you then you have issues

 

[Super Kal]

I think some of you guys just worry about nothing...if the shade of blue and red are what's going to ruin the movie for you then you have issues

i never said the shade of red and blue ruins the movie...

but the overall visual look and color usage in the movie can definitely affect the movie-goer's experience. I think Superman Returns had a half-way decent story, and the little hiccups didn't bother me too much, but every time i see that cyan/brown suit, the fan-boy in me cringes, because cyan is not blue, and brown is not red, and Singer wanted us to believe that , in his movie, this was the same Superman that we saw from Superman The Movie and Superman II... those movies had a completely different visual style to them than what Superman Returns had. If Superman Returns had a brighter palette, it would be more believable.

I dont blindly follow a Director's vision just because he slaps a superman symbol on the top of it. I'm not that naive... i might of done that as a small child, but i dont today.

 

[CLARKY]

I think some of you guys just worry about nothing...if the shade of blue and red are what's going to ruin the movie for you then you have issues

Ah, well said, but those are just elements people complained about for Superman Returns. Why not be so stupid and close-minded about this suit too? I mean, look at that: people complaining like mad people about the f**king attachment of the cape of the SR suit!!???? Why not about this one? Oh, and where is the f**king belt? Oh and where are the trunks? Oh, and the wrists?
There seems to be a logical stupidity in the complains that I clearly do not get.
This movie is going to rock, that's for sure, like 2 + 2 make 4. It's like a circle. Hate-Love-Hate-Love. this one is going to please the haters and the next movie will suck. Einfach.

 

[dabilee01]

i never said the shade of red and blue ruins the movie...

but the overall visual look and color usage in the movie can definitely affect the movie-goer's experience. I think Superman Returns had a half-way decent story, and the little hiccups didn't bother me too much, but every time i see that cyan/brown suit, the fan-boy in me cringes, because cyan is not blue, and brown is not red, and Singer wanted us to believe that , in his movie, this was the same Superman that we saw from Superman The Movie and Superman II... those movies had a completely different visual style to them than what Superman Returns had. If Superman Returns had a brighter palette, it would be more believable.

I dont blindly follow a Director's vision just because he slaps a superman symbol on the top of it. I'm not that naive... i might of done that as a small child, but i dont today.

Super, they really need to release some more footage to either help alleviate or escalate your concerns. I feel like you've been in this continuous state of tortuous limbo ever since the first image was released. I feel for you, I really do.

 

[MOS2013]

The suit is just something I have no issue with.

It looked great in the comic-con trailer. Even in these fuzzy ape-less behind the scenes shots, it looks fantastic

when I look at these I just think 'fooking wow! As tiny and blurry as the last one is I think it looks brilliant

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Ah, well said, but those are just elements people complained about for Superman Returns. Why not be so stupid and close-minded about this suit too? I mean, look at that: people complaining like mad people about the f**king attachment of the cape of the SR suit!!???? Why not about this one? Oh, and where is the f**king belt? Oh and where are the trunks? Oh, and the wrists?
There seems to be a logical stupidity in the complains that I clearly do not get.
This movie is going to rock, that's for sure, like 2 + 2 make 4. It's like a circle. Hate-Love-Hate-Love. this one is going to please the haters and the next movie will suck. Einfach.

Honestly some people are just not happy unless they are complaining about stupid, miniscule things. I understand that some people are extremely picky and that if it's not "visually pleasing to the eye" then they aren't happy, regardless of whether the story is amazing and well thought out and not just slapped together over night. I honestly don't think the blue will be cyan and the red will not be brown. His suit is alien in origin and people need to get over it. Sure he was raised on Earth but he wears an alien suit in honor and in respect of his dead home world and his people. People need to understand that, and I think they have a hard time grasping that. I'm pretty sure on Krypton the Council of Elders didn't sit around one day and say "hey, don't you guys think it would be cool if we wore our underwear on the outside of our clothes??? I think that would be awesome!". The suit is not of this Earth...and neither is Clark

 

[Super Kal]

i never said the colors WOULD be cyan or brown in the new movie... i said that's what they did in the LAST movie, and here's to hoping they dont do that again in this one...

you really need to actually read the posts i make, Kal-El.9859...

 

[Gianakin_]

Just wanted to say that I love the suit. 'm not a hardcore Superman fan, so I don't care about the comics suit at all (read: I don't like it one bit). So the movie costume is actually amazing looking to me in colour, design and texture. Very regal, very awe-inspiring. Can't wait to see it in motion and from closer.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Ah, well said, but those are just elements people complained about for Superman Returns. Why not be so stupid and close-minded about this suit too? I mean, look at that: people complaining like mad people about the f**king attachment of the cape of the SR suit!!???? Why not about this one? Oh, and where is the f**king belt? Oh and where are the trunks? Oh, and the wrists?
There seems to be a logical stupidity in the complains that I clearly do not get.
This movie is going to rock, that's for sure, like 2 + 2 make 4. It's like a circle. Hate-Love-Hate-Love. this one is going to please the haters and the next movie will suck. Einfach.

It's a shame this thread was re-opened.

 

[Super Kal]

it's not a shame this thread was re-opened... people still have their likes and dislikes about the suit, and instead of being temporarily banned for going off-topic in another thread, this gives people the freedom to express their their like or dislike for the suit.

there's no shame in that.

 

[DorkyFresh]

The real shame is that there are more people complaining about those who aren't 100% happy with the suit than there are people who can accept that not everyone is entirely satisfied. This thread can be descent if you actualy want to have a civilized discussion. Some if you need to chill and realize that not everyone is going to be totally happy with the suit.

 

[StarvingArtist]

it's not a shame this thread was re-opened... people still have their likes and dislikes about the suit, and instead of being temporarily banned for going off-topic in another thread, this gives people the freedom to express their their like or dislike for the suit.

there's no shame in that.

See Dorky's post above.

 

[Super Kal]

You've missed the point. See Dorky's post above.

well, in all honesty, their attitude is not my fault. if they want to make a big deal that other people have differing opinions, and dont like the suit, then that's their problem. the only one who can change that is either themselves or a moderator...

and i completely got the point... the problem is that there are posters on here who think their opinion on the suit is 100% absolute truth over anyone else, and whenever those who dont like the suit post in response to them on other threads, people get cranky and angry, and their comic book world falls apart because someone doesn't like their opinion... and then the mods step in and warn with temporary bans if they dont keep with the topic... i know the point very well, StarvingArtist. You've known me long enough to know that I've been here long enough to know how things role on the Superman SHH boards

i got no problem with those who like or even love the new suit... they can post pictures of it in here as much as they want, and show their support if they wish to... all I ask from those who like/love the suit is to be respectful in knowing that their opinion on the suit is simply that- an opinion- and to know that not all here are going to agree with their opinion, and to respect those who have a differing opinion

 

[DorkyFresh]

See Dorky's post above.

Actually, my post contradicts your previous post. You think it's a shame that this thread was reopened, but I think the shame is that there are so many people complaining about those who express that they aren't fully happy with the suit. I don't express my dislikes about the suit (which are few) as much as SuperKal, but I'm more than happy that this thread was reopened....so I don't have to express my dislikes in other threads, which have contributed to derailing and off topic discussions.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Actually, my post contradicts your previous post. You think it's a shame that this thread was reopened, but I think the shame is that there are so many people complaining about those who express that they aren't fully happy with the suit. I don't express my dislikes about the suit (which are few) as much as SuperKal, but I'm more than happy that this thread was reopened....so I don't have to express my dislikes in other threads, which have contributed to derailing and off topic discussions.

Actually your post validates it. This thread has always been a lightning rod for rudness. Personally I think it's incredibly sad that people can't even have a civil discussion over something as innocuous and harmless as a Superman costume. Props to you for not minding it as much as I do.

 

[Young Superman]

This would be my ideal / perfect Superman Sui. This was made by Bunk2 on deviantART.

 

[StarvingArtist]

This would be my ideal / perfect Superman Sui. This was made by Bunk2 on deviantART.

Ah, Bunk's design. Nice.

Personally, and I keep saying this, I'd be curious to see something completely new.

 

[Super Kal]

Personally, and I keep saying this, I'd be curious to see something completely new.

what is "completely new" in the mind of StarvingArtist?

 

[DorkyFresh]

Something like this?

Spoiler

hehe

 

[Super Kal]

well, that's... definitely different.

that would be awesome if on an alternate universe, a lot of Kryptonians survived and headed to Earth, but some disease followed with them, causing those to die off quickly, but before the entire race died, Jor-El and Lara give their child to Martha and Jonathan, and their bodies disintegrate, and then Kal-El would be the last son of Krypton/the Kryptonians... just throwing that out there :P

 

[StarvingArtist]

what is "completely new" in the mind of StarvingArtist?

The origin of the suit has either been something completely alien or something Ma Kent made. Just maybe someone has an even better idea? An example of the kind of logic-based origin for the suit I'm thinking of is what they did in Batman Begins.

For example, Batman doesn't just show up in a costume. He acquires the suit gradually piece by piece until his Batman identity is completely realized. I'm not sure, I didn't read it, but I think New52 tried to do something similar.

Maybe there's a way to give the suit a more real-world origin and function. I know I'm likely in the minority about this... but I loved what was done in the movie Unbreakable. I remember being amazed at how the filmmakers were able to make a simple long rain poncho look heroic. There are scenes in that movie where from certain angles it looks as if he's wearing a cape. That movie, though not perfect, was the most gritty, real-world toned super hero movie I've ever seen. Got me thinking about what if they applied a similar formula to Superman. What if he started out wearing something as simple as a crimson rain poncho with a yellow Smallville PD badge emblem on the back. The origin being that Jonathan Kent is retired Smallville PD turned farmer. In other words, the design challenge is to come up with real world analogues to the key elements of the Superman suit. Not easy, but it's fun to think about.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Something like this?

Spoiler

hehe

Good god... Super full body condom

 

[Super Kal]

personally, i would absolutely LOVE to see a professional and faithful adaptation to the Golden Age Superman suit... been reading the DC Archives Editions Superman vol 1-7 over the past week, and that timeless feel screams out at me every time i read those comics...

i would actually pay to see a time period piece of Superman in the Flesicher suit go up against Hitler and the Third Reich in an alternate universe where Hitler had access to machinery suits and whatnot, and have superman fight Hitler powered by a mecha suit or something that's sponsored by an unknown millionaire...