The Amazing Spider-Man Jamie Foxx IS Electro

[Anno_Domini]

No not really, it got people excited and wondering who he is, adding to that "mysterious" man in the shadows asking in that creepy/cool voice "Did you tell the boy about his Father?".

But as a post credits scene, bad move to add that in the trailer...
They could have added like Conner's pre-transformation snippet to fill that up.

Heck "wonderful things are coming" would have been awesome there, creepy too.

Not really. I think it made people more pissed off that the film ended in such a lame way. A very quick after credits scenes that didn't help with anything.

I'll tell you what would have been a better after credits scene.

Someone in a dimly lit room (so you can't see the person too clearly) is watching footage from the secret spider room as all the spiders descend on Peter. End scene.

Simple.

Or they could show the person and it's....

Mary Jane Watson!

 

[terry78]

Or Nick Fury.

 

[spider-neil]

Or Nick Fury.

Ohhh! Good One! I was thinking more;
Norman
Rafta(sp)

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'll tell you what would have been a better after credits scene.

Someone in a dimly lit room (so you can't see the person too clearly) is watching footage from the secret spider room as all the spiders descend on Peter. End scene.

Simple.

I'm not ashamed at all to admit that reading this post gave me wood. Not one bit.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Too much green and a glass jaw

I hope

Don't forget maniacal laugh and a penchant to do zany things with their moniker: Mr. E Nygma. Enigma! He's got to be the Riddler! Max Dillion charges ahead on current affairs of the underworld... and has an electrifying personality...

Jokes aside, I really hope they do a more sophisticated portrayal of his powers. Like I want him to have the ability to manipulate electricity and address some of the more scientific implications of that ability such as creating electric fields around him or generating positive and negative charges to fit his ends instead of being someone who's throwing in lightning bolts like he's a god. Less Lord Rayden and more Magneto (in terms of magnetism).

Taken with a more visual and conceptual consideration, the character itself has the potential to become a rich addition to the genre. Something they couldn't quite pull off with Lizard if you ask me.

I really think it will help if Norman is a villain alongside Electro.

Not as Goblin, but just as plain old evil Norman.

I'd love that! Though I confess if they're with the death of Gwen Stacey it's best that Gobby comes in at part 2. No need to beat around the bush. Make that shadowy figure Norman and go straight into this. Marc Webb talks about how he feels more liberated now that the "chores" of telling an origin story is settled, but he's left out so much that he really has as many "chores" storytelling wise now as he did in the first one. I understand that he doesn't necessarily have to heed them but they're still fundamentally important for these characters; get them out of the way, make part 3 really something out of the box so that everyone keeps guessing what story they'll be adapting next. The whole "what else can you do?" thing, if that makes any sense.

But I like this idea -- I love the idea that Norman as a character really has that sort of diversity that makes him as threatening off-costume as he is in-costume (or mutation). With the mask he's Joker, without it he's Lex Luthor. Say what you will but Spidey's villains and stories have always hit those marks that makes a superhero story, instead of having some parallel jumping-off point like noir or fantasy, Spidey's worked rather well as a simple superhero story in a superhero genre: he never needed a separate context. Except maybe science-fiction.

Jamie Foxx as . . . Electro . . . really?

OK OK, Jamie Foxx is a big star and it's sort of a feather in the cap to have an actor of his caliber as the villain.

But . . . why is the villain ****ing Electro? Are they that scared to death about doing a new Goblin story? That's the way it comes off to me.

I dunno, I don't have much faith in how Webb is approaching this franchise. He already made Peter Parker into a hippie beatnik and Edward Cullen-lite.

hey they learn well by part 2. I have the same concerns but lets see where this goes. I'd love to see them jumping Pete into college now instead of sticking in High School.

As for Goblin and Electro, I hope we get to see both of them. At least Norman Osborn.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I'll tell you what would have been a better after credits scene.

Someone in a dimly lit room (so you can't see the person too clearly) is watching footage from the secret spider room as all the spiders descend on Peter. End scene.

Simple.

That would've been so much better! The one we got felt cliched. It gave me the impression that while on one hand they wanted to make a very serious quality cinematic film about Spider-Man and then had to resort to gimmicry coz "y'know what? our audience is just a bunch of mindless kids who get their highs from cameos not thought-provoking cinema! Throw in a nasty speculative wonder." I just didn't like it.

This would've been so much more better -- it'd mean they were directly addressing what many would have thought a plot-hole in the film.

Not really. I think it made people more pissed off that the film ended in such a lame way. A very quick after credits scenes that didn't help with anything.

I agree, it did with me. It felt like a cheap horror-film cliff-hanger. Freddy lives on.

Or they could show the person and it's....

Mary Jane Watson!

Stalker MJ. Would've been better if it were Gwen though. She's not in love with the guy who's self-destructive, goes out of his way to ignore her from time to time, a precocious punk to her dad when she invites him over, doesn't show up at her father's funeral and continues to have a relationship with her afterwards. No, she's not in love, she's obsessed.

 

[ElectroGoblin]

What is with all the Hate for Electro?. I mean this is a villain that people have wanted to see on screen since the Rami films and all of a sudden it's a bad idea??. It seems like fans want to go right back to Venom, we all remember what our impatience got us with that charecter, when you could even bring up Brock for a few films and build up to Venom. Electro to me, would be awesome, because Spider-Man can't just battle it out with him, he's gotta use his wits this time and if it is indeed Ultimate Electro, then it will further complicate things. Also, reading complaints about the whole race deal, I mean so what??, are fans gonna complain that he's not Bisexual next?. I think it's awesome were getting a variety of villains. Although I know I'll never see Hobbie in film .

 

[webhead9707]

I think Infamous is a good basis for what Electro should be able to do, more or less.

 

[VenomSpawn]

I think Infamous is a good basis for what Electro should be able to do, more or less.

Yes.
Very yes.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I've ALWAYS thought they should use Colse from Infamous look, heck I even did a fan-fiction on Electro a while back basing his look on Cole.

And yes, that "Spider-Room" footage as a credit scene instead of "His Father" brillaint.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Spider-Man 3 and Iron Man 2 are sequels to enormous CBMs and were going to be seen whatsoever, but I don't understand how a pathetic movie as S-M 3 made THAT much. Also...comparing S-M 3 and IM 2? Really? Iron Man 2 may not have been great, but it's not THAT bad.

Okay thats a good point
But should SR earn as much given the extremely high popularity of the character you mention?

And what film are you talking about that was better received than TAS-M? If you're referring to Superman Returns, the top critics score is less.

Doenst matter,the ratings are all comparable overall and you can look at the difference in earnings
So much for popularity

So if movies can do this, I guess we'll see what happens next summer then, correct?

It can definitely win fans like BB and IM1 does but untill it does that,we cant say superman is actually popular overseas

I think it's clear that MOS already has a huge fanbase as it is.

How is it clear?
Because 50 guys voted for it on SHH?
Just to give you an idea,MOS teaser trailer has 3 million views on youtube in 3 months,IM3's has 43 million in 2 weeks
There's the difference in hype

And just because a reboot wasn't well received or made the most money out of the big CBMs this year doesn't mean MOS won't be a juggernaut next year.

73% is actually well received
MOS will be extremely lucky if it makes 752M+,irrespective of reception

And what? Comparing the hype to IM 3 to TAS-M 2? You just said the success to Avengers will help IM 3....what success did TAS-M make to help its sequel?

750M+ baby-Thats defiinitely a success and an indicator on how people turned up to watch it
TASM is a better success than IM2 was
Though I agree Webb and co have to work really hard but its clear that if the sequel is better than TASM,it will earn even more,especially with Batman out of the way and TA2 scheduled in 2015
It will easily be the big boy of the superhero bunch for 2014 unlike TASM who ranked on 3rd this year in terms of hype

We shall see.

You are putting too much confidence in Snyder
None of his movie have recieved over 75% and none of them has earned good money except 300
Aint a fan of Cavill either
TBH I see nothing bright for MOS at present except that Nolan is directing it
Needless to say SR looked to have more potential in 2006

And nothing wrong with that since he's the godfather of Man of Steel. It's like plastering J.J. Abrams' name all over the promotion for Revolution when Eric Kripke is the one who created it. Nothing wrong with that, but of course you'll mention this as something so terrible.

When did I say it was wrong?

 

[Spiderdevil]

The 'man in the shadows' is definitely not electro
I am pretty sure Webb just threw him in there to ignite curiosity,he probably never decided who he was supposed to be

 

[Nathan]

Norman Osborn

 

[Anno_Domini]

Okay thats a good point
But should SR earn as much given the extremely high popularity of the character you mention?

Superman Returns wasn't a sequel to some great film. Even if mentioned as a "direct sequel" to Superman II, no one is going to jump over hoops to see SR when it was crap. The first wave of people would have noticed this at first glance. Heck, even I left the viewing midways and I didn't even do that with S-M 3(although I did fall asleep while watching it).

But to say people will watch it just because of the superhero is kinda a ridiculous point. People like The Hulk, but people weren't going to keep watching Lee's Hulk.

Doenst matter,the ratings are all comparable overall and you can look at the difference in earnings
So much for popularity

So much for popularity when it comes to bad movies? Lol, another ridiculous point, bravo

It can definitely win fans like BB and IM1 does but untill it does that,we cant say superman is actually popular overseas

And it will definitely win fans. Man of Steel will most likely be Warner Brothers' next big thing after Harry Potter is finished and after The Dark Knight Trilogy is finished.

How is it clear?
Because 50 guys voted for it on SHH?
Just to give you an idea,MOS teaser trailer has 3 million views on youtube in 3 months,IM3's has 43 million in 2 weeks
There's the difference in hype

Lol, kinda funny with comparing nonsense facts when comparing only two different websites, but you'll just have to see how MOS does next year.

73% is actually well received
MOS will be extremely lucky if it makes 752M+,irrespective of reception

A 70s something is like a C....so a C is well received. Really?

Imo, MOS will reach $800 million WW. Just wait

750M+ baby-Thats defiinitely a success and an indicator on how people turned up to watch it
TASM is a better success than IM2 was
Though I agree Webb and co have to work really hard but its clear that if the sequel is better than TASM,it will earn even more,especially with Batman out of the way and TA2 scheduled in 2015
It will easily be the big boy of the superhero bunch for 2014 unlike TASM who ranked on 3rd this year in terms of hype

You're not really making a point by saying TAS-M is a better success than Iron Man 2

But forget about Batman, let's hope another Ice Age film doesn't come out around the same time as TAS-M 2, haha.

You are putting too much confidence in Snyder
None of his movie have recieved over 75% and none of them has earned good money except 300
Aint a fan of Cavill either
TBH I see nothing bright for MOS at present except that Nolan is directing it
Needless to say SR looked to have more potential in 2006

Wait, wait....you don't seem to be giving any confidence just because you don't seem to like the director or the guy even playing Superman, lol.

The project as a whole from Christopher Nolan all the way down to Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent makes it seem like Man of Steel will be a brilliant movie. Once more, we shall see next summer.

When did I say it was wrong?

Making some point such as they'll plaster Nolan's name is a given you think something's wrong with that, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned something that everyone already knows.

 

[Anno_Domini]

The 'man in the shadows' is definitely not electro
I am pretty sure Webb just threw him in there to ignite curiosity,he probably never decided who he was supposed to be

Once again, am I the only one that thinks this may be a terrible idea if Webb doesn't even have a clue on who the Man in the Shadows is?

Norman Osborn

Off topic, but I assume you saw the RWBY trailer? What did you think of it?

 

[Nathan]

Off topic, but I assume you saw the RWBY trailer? What did you think of it?

Love it. Monty needs to get in touch with a game Dev and make a game out of it. Heck, maybe he should do it himself. Would be a new challenge for him. But then he wouldn't have anything resembling a life anymore.

 

[Rogue Kira]

Academy Award winner for best Actor Jamie Foxx to play electro Very Interesting

 

[Lord]

Once again, am I the only one that thinks this may be a terrible idea if Webb doesn't even have a clue on who the Man in the Shadows is?

Yeah, when the creative minds have no idea where to go next it's allways a bad sign

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

The 'man in the shadows' is definitely not electro
I am pretty sure Webb just threw him in there to ignite curiosity,he probably never decided who he was supposed to be

It's JFK. What'd you think REALLY happened to him?

 

[Spiderdevil]

Superman Returns wasn't a sequel to some great film. Even if mentioned as a "direct sequel" to Superman II, no one is going to jump over hoops to see SR when it was crap. The first wave of people would have noticed this at first glance. Heck, even I left the viewing midways and I didn't even do that with S-M 3(although I did fall asleep while watching it).

Then why did people watch TASM?
It wasnt totally out of the world or anything

So much for popularity when it comes to bad movies? Lol, another ridiculous point, bravo

It wasnt that bad,stop making it seem like that

And it will definitely win fans. Man of Steel will most likely be Warner Brothers' next big thing after Harry Potter is finished and after The Dark Knight Trilogy is finished.

You are letting your anticipation for the movie get ahead of you
It can well turn out to be another Green Lantern

Lol, kinda funny with comparing nonsense facts when comparing only two different websites, but you'll just have to see how MOS does next year.

I am talking about hype and youtube views are a clear indication of the difference in hype between MOS and IM3
In no way is MOS the most anticipated CBM of 2013

A 70s something is like a C....so a C is well received. Really?

It's called 'Generally well recieved'
Below 65% is 'Mixed to positive'

You're not really making a point by saying TAS-M is a better success than Iron Man 2

Made better money with comparable reception
So TASM2 has a better movie behind it than IM3 if we dont count the Avengers(Since it isnt an individual Iron Man movie)

But forget about Batman, let's hope another Ice Age film doesn't come out around the same time as TAS-M 2, haha.

Or another Madagascar film near MOS like it happened with BB
Or CBM like Elektra or Fantastic 4

Wait, wait....you don't seem to be giving any confidence just because you don't seem to like the director or the guy even playing Superman, lol.

I am not confident because I dont like the Lead Actor and Director,Is that wrong?
I wasnt too confident about TASM either around this time before the release because I wasnt a fan of Webb(even though I loved Garfield's talent)

The project as a whole from Christopher Nolan all the way down to Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent makes it seem like Man of Steel will be a brilliant movie. Once more, we shall see next summer.

The lead actor and the director matter more

Making some point such as they'll plaster Nolan's name is a given you think something's wrong with that, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned something that everyone already knows.

I only agreed to your point about Nolan being linked with it will help the movie
That and its also a given that the advertisement will be better than SR

 

[Spiderdevil]

Once again, am I the only one that thinks this may be a terrible idea if Webb doesn't even have a clue on who the Man in the Shadows is?

If he can tie it up well in the sequel,it wont be a bad idea

 

[shauner111]

It's Norman Osbourne obviously.

Don't rush the Goblin into this series please. And use Harry as a small factor. I didn't like how they used Harry so much in the Raimi movies.

Building on Norman & MJ while using Electro as the next villain..is an AWESOME idea. He is such a different villain compared to Lizard and it's a fresh & inspired choice. With Jamie Foxx playing him, it's even more fresh.

3rd movie have Norman Osbourne as the Green Goblin and kill off Gwen (unless they're planning on killing her off at the end of this one). Expand MJ's role, use Harry once again as a small factor in the story. Introduce the idea of Daily Bugle. Of course i would like to see J.J sooner, and with J.K Simmons reprising his role since he's the greatest...but i can wait.

End of Webb's trilogy. Does Garfield stay on? Who knows.

 

[Thwip!]

Academy Award winner for best Actor Jamie Foxx to play electro Very Interesting

why aren't more people concentrating on this?

 

[Anno_Domini]

Love it. Monty needs to get in touch with a game Dev and make a game out of it. Heck, maybe he should do it himself. Would be a new challenge for him. But then he wouldn't have anything resembling a life anymore.

Yah, it looks pretty fantastic. Hopefully the episodes start to show up before Red vs Blue season 11 so I can have something to watch.

And...I think RWBY stands for Red, White, Black and Yellow. Maybe like four assassins or something.

Oh, and if you saw the season finale of RvB...what did you think about the credits at the end? It seemed kinda random since no other season had credits after the last episode of each season.

Yeah, when the creative minds have no idea where to go next it's allways a bad sign

Agreed.

Then why did people watch TASM?
It wasnt totally out of the world or anything

Because it wasn't such a terrible movie as Superman Returns

It wasnt that bad,stop making it seem like that

Superman Returns WAS that bad. You're kidding yourself if you think it wasn't.

You are letting your anticipation for the movie get ahead of you
It can well turn out to be another Green Lantern

Once more, underestimating anything that isn't Spider-Man

I am talking about hype and youtube views are a clear indication of the difference in hype between MOS and IM3
In no way is MOS the most anticipated CBM of 2013

If you say so, haha.

It's called 'Generally well recieved'
Below 65% is 'Mixed to positive'

A C is a C. It's okay, it's not the end of the world.

Made better money with comparable reception
So TASM2 has a better movie behind it than IM3 if we dont count the Avengers(Since it isnt an individual Iron Man movie)

Doesn't matter if isn't an individual Iron Man film, people will acknowledge The Avengers being the film before Iron Man 3. The Avengers is part of a series that the Iron Man films belong to, so one would put them all in the same kind of series which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Plus...comparable reception? TAS-M had a much better reception with the top critics.

Or another Madagascar film near MOS like it happened with BB
Or CBM like Elektra or Fantastic 4

So...Man Of Steel will at least have more than one week to stay #1?

Plus, Elektra was released in January of that year, so...good job trying to make another ridiculous point

I am not confident because I dont like the Lead Actor and Director,Is that wrong?
I wasnt too confident about TASM either around this time before the release because I wasnt a fan of Webb(even though I loved Garfield's talent)

No, it's not wrong, but to say I shouldn't be confident because I actually like the choice of the director and the actors....seems kinda silly to say I shouldn't be confident, haha.

The lead actor and the director matter more

Which are both fantastic.

I only agreed to your point about Nolan being linked with it will help the movie
That and its also a given that the advertisement will be better than SR

Definitely didn't seem like it when you mentioned it as you've made this argument before that it's silly for them to be pushing Nolan for Man of Steel.

If he can tie it up well in the sequel,it wont be a bad idea

IF is the key word.

 

[Moridin]

I definitely think the Man in the Shadows is Osborn, or will end up being Osborn if, as some are saying, Webb just randomly threw him in.

Superman Returns wasn't a sequel to some great film. Even if mentioned as a "direct sequel" to Superman II, no one is going to jump over hoops to see SR when it was crap. The first wave of people would have noticed this at first glance. Heck, even I left the viewing midways and I didn't even do that with S-M 3(although I did fall asleep while watching it).

If Superman was anywhere near as popular as you say he is then SR's opening weekend numbers should have been on or above the level of Spider-Man 1, ie - $114m US (which it achieved while not being a sequel to a great film). But SR opened to $52m. People weren't interested in seeing a Superman movie because he isn't popular & hasn't been in a long time.

People wouldn't go see a crap film, you say? - Spidey 3's opening weekend # was $151m, and it's considered substantially worse than SR.

Most iconic/well known does not equal most popular.

Imo, MOS will reach $800 million WW. Just wait

Based on what? The $391m WW total of the characters last film?
If SR is as bad as you're saying then that's only going to work against MoS, as it worked against BB & XFC & TASM & TIH.

It could hit like IM did, but I think more likely MoS will have to lay the groundwork (as in be a really good film) while doing modest enough numbers (500ish) before sequels go on to making $800m+.

The project as a whole from Christopher Nolan all the way down to Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent makes it seem like Man of Steel will be a brilliant movie.

I'd agree only for the huge weak spot it has in a critical part of the machine - "Screenplay by David Goyer".

Then why did people watch TASM?
It wasnt totally out of the world or anything

To be fair TASM's gross is quite a big step down from the Raimi movies when you consider it has the advantage of 3D, inflation & expanded markets. People were turned off by Spidey 3 & the whole reboot factor.

So TASM2 has a better movie behind it than IM3 if we dont count the Avengers(Since it isnt an individual Iron Man movie)

Why wouldn't TA count in Iron Man's favour?


Maybe we should continue this in another thread? We're fairly far off topic..