The Amazing Spider-Man Jamie Foxx IS Electro

[Anno_Domini]

If Superman was anywhere near as popular as you say he is then SR's opening weekend numbers should have been on or above the level of Spider-Man 1, ie - $114m US (which it achieved while not being a sequel to a great film). But SR opened to $52m. People weren't interested in seeing a Superman movie because he isn't popular & hasn't been in a long time.

People wouldn't go see a crap film, you say? - Spidey 3's opening weekend # was $151m, and it's considered substantially worse than SR.

Most iconic/well known does not equal most popular.

Once more, people will watch a sequel from a great CBM, as I gave for example...Spider-Man 2 -> Spider-Man 3, Iron Man -> Iron Man 2.

And...yah, I'd have to say Superman Returns was worse than Spider-Man 3. At least Spider-Man 3 had potential.

Based on what? The $391m WW total of the characters last film?
If SR is as bad as you're saying then that's only going to work against MoS, as it worked against BB & XFC & TASM & TIH.

It could hit like IM did, but I think more likely MoS will have to lay the groundwork (as in be a really good film) while doing modest enough numbers (500ish) before sequels go on to making $800m+.

Lol, you're basing it on the fact that an awful Superman film didn't make that much, really? In that case, I'm surprised Batman Begins did better than Batman & Robin with your logic. And as I said, with the name of Christopher Nolan being plastered everywhere, that will only but benefit Man of Steel.

I'd agree only for the huge weak spot it has in a critical part of the machine - "Screenplay by David Goyer".

His screenplay didn't hurt Batman Begins much. Plus, if the rumor is true of Jonathan Nolan having time to work on the script as well, I don't see it being the weak spot. Just another Nolan polishing up Goyer's work.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Because it wasn't such a terrible movie as Superman Returns
Superman Returns WAS that bad. You're kidding yourself if you think it wasn't.

But not bad enough to warrant such horrible earnings compared to the budget
Even Fantastic four made comparable money to that with almost 3 times lesser budget

EDIT:Moridin makes an excellent point about opening weekends aswell

Superman Returns WAS that bad. You're kidding yourself if you think it wasn't.
Because it wasn't such a terrible movie as Superman Returns

If SR was that terrible in your opinion,then wont it affect MOS's earnings like B&R did to BB's or X3's affected First class and so on?
And the time period is also lesser

Once more, underestimating anything that isn't Spider-Man

You are overestimating it,so that cancels out

If you say so, haha.

Its not just my opinion,its a fact
Look at youtube.43Million vs 3 Million and too in 2 weeks

A C is a C. It's okay, it's not the end of the world.

I dont rate movies like that

Doesn't matter if isn't an individual Iron Man film, people will acknowledge The Avengers being the film before Iron Man 3. The Avengers is part of a series that the Iron Man films belong to, so one would put them all in the same kind of series which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Yeah I already said that Iron Man 3 has greater hype than TASM2
But that doesnt matter since TASM2 is coming out an year after IM3
MOS has to face IM3

So...Man Of Steel will at least have more than one week to stay #1?

I dont give a **** about how long it stays #1 or whatever
All I care about is how much a movie has made WW at the end of it run

No, it's not wrong, but to say I shouldn't be confident because I actually like the choice of the director and the actors....seems kinda silly to say I shouldn't be confident, haha.

You are bit too confident imo
So many fans were reluctant to predict 800M WW pre-release for TASM despite the character earning much more just a few years before

Definitely didn't seem like it when you mentioned it as you've made this argument before that it's silly for them to be pushing Nolan for Man of Steel.

Never have I ever said that it is wrong to put the Producer's name in advertisement,dont put words in my mouth

IF is the key word.

It isnt particularly hard imo
If he cant come up with any other creative option,he will make him Norman.Simple

 

[Spiderdevil]

To be fair TASM's gross is quite a big step down from the Raimi movies when you consider it has the advantage of 3D, inflation & expanded markets. People were turned off by Spidey 3 & the whole reboot factor.

Definitely but despite that and competing with 2 heavy weights it made 752m?
SR didnt even make 400M despite a much larger budget

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Lol since when did this become the "Man of Steel" thread? Don't get me wrong, I REALLY am looking forward to Zack Snyder's movie, but this is Spider-Man.

 

[Anno_Domini]

One mention of me thinking Man of Steel will be great next summer and everything goes to Hell

 

[terry78]

You can't escape the Nolan influence. It permeates every fiber.

 

[Anno_Domini]

But not bad enough to warrant such horrible earnings compared to the budget
Even Fantastic four made comparable money to that with almost 3 times lesser budget

EDIT:Moridin makes an excellent point about opening weekends aswell

Wait, wait, wait....what? Superman Returns still almost made double its budget($70 million shy), so don't make it seem like SR did THAT bad. It made over its budget at least.

If SR was that terrible in your opinion,then wont it affect MOS's earnings like B&R did to BB's or X3's affected First class and so on?
And the time period is also lesser

I have no clue what went wrong with First Class, but reboots have become far more popular and it showed with TAS-M as well with Casino Royale and Star Trek. SR being terrible won't do anything to mess up Man of Steel as fans of Superman have been longing for a great Supes film since Superman II.

You are overestimating it,so that cancels out

I'm not overestimating anything, nor being overconfident. Just being confident over another CBM and not being biased just because it's not my favorite superhero as you usually are when it's not Spider-Man.

Its not just my opinion,its a fact
Look at youtube.43Million vs 3 Million and too in 2 weeks

At least I said Man of Steel most likely has a huge fanbase considering its got the Hype more excited than any other CBM next year...but you're saying it's FACT that Iron Man 3 is already the most anticipated film because YouTube has more views on one trailer than the other? Hah.

I dont rate movies like that

Well, I do when they feel like a C-rated CBM.

Yeah I already said that Iron Man 3 has greater hype than TASM2
But that doesnt matter since TASM2 is coming out an year after IM3
MOS has to face IM3

This has nothing to do with you thinking Iron Man 3 isn't anticipated after The Avengers. Come to a stall on some point so you try to switch things up?

I dont give a **** about how long it stays #1 or whatever
All I care about is how much a movie has made WW at the end of it run

Kinda sucks when you have nothing else to say to be "cool", huh?

You are bit too confident imo
So many fans were reluctant to predict 800M WW pre-release for TASM despite the character earning much more just a few years before

1.) Those fans did not care about seeing an origin being done since we've seen an origin of Spidey ten years prior.

2.) Those fans were still right since TAS-M didn't make $800 million WW.

Never have I ever said that it is wrong to put the Producer's name in advertisement,dont put words in my mouth

Not putting any words in your mouth as you HAVE said it's awful that Nolan's name is plastered everywhere since Snyder's name alone wouldn't be able to attract fans.

It isnt particularly hard imo
If he cant come up with any other creative option,he will make him Norman.Simple

Although kinda hilarious because it'll feel like Webb did run out of options rather than trolling fanboys from the beginning.

Definitely but despite that and competing with 2 heavy weights it made 752m?
SR didnt even make 400M despite a much larger budget

Only $9 million off and not that big of a deal.

 

[zeptron]

I've often come across people saying there should be another villain because Electro is too minor and not smart enough to carry his own movie. While I think another villain would be interesting, those claims aren't valid. Electro isn't really minor. If anyone is part of the original Sinister Six, that means they're big time. At best he's B-list.


And if anyone has played Spider-man 2 for the PS1, they'll see that Electro can be portrayed better as just being a "dumb thug." He was the main villain and the last boss in that game. He was the mastermind in getting the villains together to steal a device that made him more powerful.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I've often come across people saying there should be another villain because Electro is too minor and not smart enough to carry his own movie. While I think another villain would be interesting, those claims aren't valid. Electro isn't really minor. If anyone is part of the original Sinister Six, that means they're big time. At best he's B-list.


And if anyone has played Spider-man 2 for the PS1, they'll see that Electro can be portrayed better as just being a "dumb thug." He was the main villain and the last boss in that game. He was the mastermind in getting the villains together to steal a device that made him more powerful.

I agree. I think he can carry a film.

But in terms of this series, Norman Osborn needs to have a big presence.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Lol since when did this become the "Man of Steel" thread? Don't get me wrong, I REALLY am looking forward to Zack Snyder's movie, but this is Spider-Man.

At least Superman is awesome
Unlike the other thing some remember watching the Amazing Spider-Man film

 

[AF3619]

At least Superman is awesome
Unlike the other thing some remember watching the Amazing Spider-Man film

i thought you liked TASM...or is it sarcasm?

 

[Nathan]

So, anyone else hoping that they make Electro a complete and utter powerful badass? In terms of raw power, I think Electro should be the toughest opponent that Spider-Man ever had or ever will face. Doesn't mean that other characters like Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Venom, etc, should come across as push overs later on. But Electro is a kind of foe who could probably become a city wide menace in seconds if he cuts loose.

 

[AF3619]

what if Electro harms Spiderman really bad....and then....Crane dad saves him....bring crane dad back

 

[Valkyrje]

Electro's power should hit TAS level. TSSM Electro was s**t IMO, the worst adaptation in TSSM... too weak both mentally and phisically. Electro, if done right, can be an incredible threat to Spidey and the entire city.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

At least Superman is awesome
Unlike the other thing some remember watching the Amazing Spider-Man film

TASM had its flaws (the lack of characterization for Doc Connors and Dr. Ratha that was left on the cutting room floor) but it's still a very good adaptation of Spider-Man. Yeah, people can gripe all they want that Marc Webb edged around the "With great power comes great responsibility" line and how Uncle Ben dies, but it's still the same story. Webb remained faithful to the character and who he was, and why should we settle on the same all the time? We fans know the origin story by heart, and I'm ok with what Marc did.

I'm excited about where he is going to lead the franchise. With the easter eggs and Norman as a power-player luring in the shadows, he has this set up for future sequels than say Raimi where each film brought one character into the fold after another and felt like one separate movie. What he's doing is developing a big, expansive universe. Anything can happen and anyone can show up.

All these *****y complaints, all the revulsion some of you have for this movie, is not only laughable to me, but puerile and maybe even schizophrenic. I mean Webb answered everyone's main concern that we needed a Spider-Man who quips and wisecracks.

*POOF* Wish granted!

We need Gwen Stacy to be Pete's first love interest.

*POOF* Wish fulfilled!

I could go on and on and on.

My only complaint with the movie was I wasn't a big fan of the gloves and shoes, but when I watched the film closer it made sense: If WE, the audience, designed the suit it probably would look like that. I mean look at "KICK ASS", his suit was made out of a scuba suit.

So, if you didn't like the movie then fine. More power to you. But I do find it funny that someone would waste their time in a Spider-Man thread bemoaning over what they hated about the movie instead of spending time in other threads talking about other heroes.

 

[ElectroGoblin]

TASM2 needs better marketing than TASM, that was the the one thing TASM lacked compaired to movies this year and the Rami series. Electro is able to carry his own movie, especially if he breaks from Osborn's control and goes on his own agenda.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

i thought you liked TASM...or is it sarcasm?

I was talking about people incorporating [blackout]TWI-FAFEFUUUUUU-LIIIIIIGHT[/blackout]
Thinking Superman is better than that thing

 

[nbanflguy]

I think Superman is pretty stupid, but the first trailer was pretty cool

 

[ElectroGoblin]

So...Should Electro be human form through out the film or have a pure energetic mode during the final fight?.

 

[Anno_Domini]

what if Electro harms Spiderman really bad....and then....Crane dad saves him....bring crane dad back

Screw that, Crane dad needs his own spin-off.

The Spectacular Crane Dad t:

I think Superman is pretty stupid, but the first trailer was pretty cool

I'll bite.

Why do you think Superman is pretty stupid?

 

[Victarion]

So...Should Electro be human form through out the film or have a pure energetic mode during the final fight?.

It needs to be really fluid. Plasma like. When I read about Sandman becoming a giant in SM3, I thought he'd be like a huge, sapient tornado. Wrongo.

 

[spider-neil]

The concept of Superman is stupid because he is an utterly unrelatable character and can you weave suspense and drama with an indestructible character who can bench press planets? Don't get me wrong, I've read and watched some great drama with Superman over the years (the first two Superman movies, Superman Elite, the JL cartoon and the grant Morrison run) but by and large the character is over powered and tedious.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Wow, all that Superman talk
My view of Superman is him being overpowered should generally state "you don't need to resort to violence to solve problems", that's what makes him special

 

[nbanflguy]

Screw that, Crane dad needs his own spin-off.

The Spectacular Crane Dad t:



I'll bite.

Why do you think Superman is pretty stupid?

1. He is too powerful and has like every super power known to man,
2. If he comes in contact with kryptonite, a 5 year old girl could kick his ass.
3. His secret identity is also dumb. He puts on glasses and combs his hair and no one recognizes him.
4. He is a super powered alien, but his main enemy is a normal, bald business man
5. Maybe this is just me, but it also seems that he gets hypnotized, mind controlled, or turned evil like every other day

 

[Juicy J]

Its not just my opinion,its a fact
Look at youtube.43Million vs 3 Million and too in 2 weeks

At least I said Man of Steel most likely has a huge fanbase considering its got the Hype more excited than any other CBM next year...but you're saying it's FACT that Iron Man 3 is already the most anticipated film because YouTube has more views on one trailer than the other? Hah.

Wait let me get this straight. You're saying that Iron man 3 isn't the most anticipated comic book film coming out next year? And that Superman is?
Where are you even getting that from, other than your own baseless conjecture?
43 million views vs 3 million views.... Hmmmm, that's a real tough one to figure out.
And you can't honestly use the hype as an example. This place is full of superhero diehards who are in no way an example of the GA, who is generally waaay more apathetic to this stuff than us.
As I said, numbers don't lie: 43 million to 3 million. And the former just came out only like two, three weeks ago.
I'd love to see someone try to make an argument that Iron man 3 isn't the most hotly anticipated, so by all means, someone please do.