Jared Leto IS The Joker - - - - - - - - Part 17

[BH/HHH]

I don't care what anyone says I loved Jared's Joker and I can't wait to see more

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I'm with others when they say they wouldn't miss Leto's Joker should he never pop up again.

I found every Joker scene lacking and cringe-inducing. I was backing Leto all the way, but he just didn't pull it off.

Agreed. If they change everything about him then maybe he do better but current version just bad. Jared leto just need better material and look.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

In Azarello's Joker novel he's far more of a mob boss than straight up anarchist, & Batman '89 shows him in a very similar light, especially his pre-Joker days. Leto's version, IIRC, took a lot of inspiration from the aforementioned novel, so those choices make sense in that regard.

Thank you for that, I remember in 89 he was more in a gangsta fashion but not entirely like this. I admit I prefer just the crazed domestic terrorist nihilist person with no back story and even the other villains fear him. But I am open to Leto's version and any attempt to show different versions of a decades old character.
I know many people didn't embrace his only purpose in the movie being to chase after Harley.

Do you guys think Leto's Joker needs the deformed mouth and long smile?

 

[BH/HHH]

There's nothing wrong with his look IMO, he looks like the Joker, he looks different from previous versions, same as those All looked like the Joker yet still looked different from one another.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I liked Jokers grill and tattoos, but I wasn't loving the scenes of him coming off as a cheesy night club owner dressing like a pimp. I honestly didnt get that; is there a history of Joker being an insane mob boss like Falcone?

That's the one thing that I honestly really disliked.
The club owner thing.

That was too much.

 

[JKKS085]

As much as I admire Leto's work and like him as an actor I was extremely disappointed by his Joker (even though I kept my expectations in check after the reviews it was still a lot worse than I thought it would be). I don't know exactly who's to blame for this trainwreck but I guess since most of his performance ended up on the cutting room floor it didn't really help making it feel more cohesive. Overall I think it ended up being tonally incoherent diminishing the impact the character should've had. And the look, tatoos and wardrobe with a weird emphasis on the character's mannerisms didn't help either, making it look and feel more like a caricature of the Joker, or someone impersonating him, than the Joker himself.
I still hope that the character can somehow be fixed in the future, with a better direction and better writing because I really like that casting and do think that Leto has a lot of potential.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

It felt like almost all moments of actual character substance got cut out in favor of just showing the parts where he does weird mannerisms and s***, like if Silence of the Lambs had cut out half of Hopkins performance and just left in the parts where he makes creepy sounds and mannerisms and talks about eating people. I could be wrong, but I'd be very curious to see the cut Joker footage to see just how much more there was to the performance.

 

[Marvolo]

Ayer really should have released an extended cut on blu-ray. It's pretty clear WB was uncomfortable with the twisted relationship between Harley and Joker that Ayer wanted to show so they had him cut all that out leaving Joker a barely functioning cameo. Stupid *******s.

 

[Wildcard]

As I sit here watching B'89 I keep thinking about everyone who complained about Leto's Joker chasing after Harley and wonder if they've completely forgotten about Nicholson's Joker chasing after Vicki Vale for most of the movie (even if it was in a far more creepy/stalker-ish context) because he was so intrigued by her.

 

[hellblazer103]

As I sit here watching B'89 I keep thinking about everyone who complained about Leto's Joker chasing after Harley and wonder if they've completely forgotten about Nicholson's Joker chasing after Vicki Vale for most of the movie (even if it was in a far more creepy/stalker-ish context) because he was so intrigued by her.

That sortas helps it out. In Leto's context, he's literally like some cringey emo boyfriend .

 

[Forever Evil]

That's the one thing that I honestly really disliked.
The club owner thing.

That was too much.

Yeah, it was the only scene in the film I didn't care for.

Seemed pointless and Joker came across as an idiot.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I don't want a recast, but will Leto want to come back after this reception?

I think with better writing and directing he can be a great Joker

 

[Rorschach2012]

Ryan Gosling turned it down. No surprise. He picks good movies. He would've been amazing

I think Jake Gyllenhaal should be Joker if Leto is out

 

[Greens]

Yeah, it was the only scene in the film I didn't care for.

Seemed pointless and Joker came across as an idiot.

Hunka hunka!

 

[Astro13Zombie]

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[morningmimosa]

Man, I gotta say, as someone who really appreciates the direction they went with his look (except for the damaged tattoo but that ain't no dealbreaker for me) ... all the tattoos were so pointless because they were never adressed - or even really showed.

 

[hellblazer103]

man, i gotta say, as someone who really appreciates the direction they went with his look (except for the damaged tattoo but that ain't no dealbreaker for me) ... All the tattoos were so pointless because they were never adressed - or even really showed.

This

 

[Wildcard]

Ryan Gosling turned it down. No surprise. He picks good movies. He would've been amazing

I think Jake Gyllenhaal should be Joker if Leto is out

I highly doubt Leto will drop out or be recast, there'd be no purpose in doing so.

But, in the instance such an event were to occur, I'd like to see them try to talk Gosling into it (again).

 

[Blitzkrieg]

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

OK here's my ideal...keep the tats and grill but grown the darn eyebrows back.

 

[regwec]

That's like letting the ex-wife keep the house and car so long as you can keep custody of her mother.

 

[The Endless]

Yea why focus on eye brows?

 

[Wildcard]

No, he definitely shouldn't grow the eyebrows back. Leto's Joker not having eyebrows gives him a creepy, alien-esque look and helps further sell the aesthetic they're going for. They might as well just keep it all at this point.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Eyebrows least of the problems with look. Get rid of tattoos and grills first. Get rid of gangster clothes too.

 

[Boom]

I liked that he didn't have eyebrows. Very David Bowie-esque.

Give him another chemical bath to get rid of the tattoos and give him a regular set of teeth. Then we're golden.