Jared Leto IS The Joker - Part 9

[Boom]

So many great posts these last couple of pages, it's hard to keep track.

 

[Boom]

Yup. Now deliberating on death penalty, I think.

I'm all for a life sentence in a solitary confinement cell.

 

[DeadStroke]

 

[Slade W]

Beautiful.

 

[Greens]

Joker loves Nikon

 

[regwec]

I hate that recolouring of The Killing Joke which gives The Joker that stupid beige hat. Inexplicable.

 

[Boy Scout]

I thought this was real for a second. Great work.

 

[mad pigeon]

Awesome!

 

[Batman_5]

Don't know why but this reminds of the dude from Beetleborgs..

 

[Broseph44]

How the hell does that remind you of that? ^

 

[batman1]

Understood.

I actually think efforts to analyse The Joker as a real human being are futile, because he simply isn't written that way. He is, in a sense, a classic comicbook superman (small "s") in that he has been the victim of some great injury from which he has derived no detriment and has instead been strengthened. With The Joker, however, this occurs purely in the psychological sphere, where he is completely invulnerable. His "insanity" is not of a type that we would usually recognise, because his cognitive abilities or emotional intelligence are completely unimpaired by his sadism or his lack of empathy. Even these are subordinate to his intelligence: he doesn't need to murder people in the way that Zsasz does; he appears to be able to sit on his hands calmly enough and await the best opportunity. He is also almost entirely without fear. I think, in essence, he only really has a tight trio of emotions- cruelty, narcissism, and disappointment (which is the most he suffers when his schemes are thwarted). The mirthful cackling seems to be a product of the first two.



I think that is a rational, choice however. Batman usually uses violence as a means to an ends. When he goes too far, it is usually a rational manifestation of rage.

Insane may not be the correct term, but dude is mentally messed up on several levels. And there has to be a correct diagnoses for it somewhere.

 

[regwec]

Not necessarily, because he isn't a real person.

 

[Rodrigo90]

He isn't?

 

[william]

I did some adjust...more comic style! hehe

 

[Captain Tired]

Here, I've made it even closer to the comic

That's better.

 

[DeadStroke]

 

[I Am The Knight]

Perfection.

 

[regwec]

Except for the stupid colouring on the hat.

Incidentally, I have only just come across the original inks for the montage of photographs of Barbara that The Joker shows Jim. They are too graphic to post here, but it seems clear from them that Babs was (probably gang) raped.

Oh, Alan.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

 

[Silly Cat]

Incidentally, I have only just come across the original inks for the montage of photographs of Barbara that The Joker shows Jim. They are too graphic to post here, but it seems clear from them that Babs was (probably gang) raped.

Oh, Alan.

Interesting, maybe originally Moore thought about going more graphic with it but understandably decided not to in the end.

What happened to Barbara in 'Killing Joke' is a touchy subject for some people. I always liked that it was left ambiguous as to what Joker might or might not have done to her...it therefore left it up to the reader to decide how far Joker went.

I think it works better that way, because rape is such a horrible thing to write about and read about, that you don't want to alienate readers.


But is Joke capable of going that far?

Yes

COULD HE have gone that far?

Absolutely, but we don't have to see it.

What we got in 'Killing Joke' was sufficient to suggest something more might have happened, but it's ambiguous enough to where you can dismiss the hints if you want to and just take what it tells you at face value (that Joker just undressed her for the pictures).

I like it better that way.

 

[Boy Scout]

I think The Joker is capable of rape, but it's not something I ever want to see, in any media. I don't think I even want it to be hinted at.

 

[Knight-Tale]

Joker could and has done that in the Joker GN
You are talking about a character who literally finds all distasteful things humorous on some level.
Killing Joke he had the henchmen with him to do the distasteful stuff though he just took pictures

 

[DeadStroke]

Joker could and has done that in the Joker GN
You are talking about a character who literally finds all distasteful things humorous on some level.
Killing Joke he had the henchmen with him to do the distasteful stuff though he just took pictures

Uh oh. You mentioned the Joker GN. Regwec is about to combust.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The thing is... In the books did Barbara ever touch on being sexually assaulted as well as shot? I don't think I ever remember her in the comics touching on that when ever the subject came up of the events of TKJ. I could be wrong but I don't recall that being hinted in any way in the years after.

 

[Majik1387]

I just figured she couldn't remember it; like a repressed memory.