Discussion in 'X-Men 1, 2 & 3' started by Jennifer Walters, Apr 1, 2006.
Hey look, I see our resident Angel in the background!
And for every one of those I could name two RoLo moments. It's a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that Jean and Scott are meant to be. She went to him when she was like 12, cloaked in golden flame and all. Jean loves Scott, lusts after Logan. Simple.
^^i love the pic!!!
Even in the comics he admitted this on several occasions...often referring to them as one person
Its a matter of opinion which couple you prefer, but the relationship is not simple. I dont think you haven't read that much about their relationship, because its not "lust. simple." Its a complicated relationship. See if you can read NXM 148 and you'll see just a glimpse of it.
As for Scott and Jean meant to be, its not happening. For a long, long time. Emma is here to stay. So how is that a viable relationship, even if you like it?
Keep in mind though Jean died before Emma and Scott were official...and Jean had to change the timestream so that Scott would accept Emma and reform the X-Men. So really Scott and Jean were meant to be...Jean altered that to save the world.
That was one of the tackiest moments in X-History....evvvver.
Followed by Astonishing X-Men 13....where Emma is doing sexual role-play dress-up as Jean/Phoenix...again.
There's also Wolverine #75, X-Men #25, issues of operation tolerance, when Logan goes beserk. those are a few on the top of my head that display more than lust, but a deep love between the two that go far deeper than the physical.
a nice Jean-Logan moment for us all
^ that wouldnt fit in the movieverse.
I've read comics for over 15 years. Yeah, I've read Jean and Logan. And it is indeed a matter of preference. Hell, I preferred Yukio over Mariko too. But that's another story.
All the X relationships have depths and levels of complexity. But the basic, most fundamental nature of Jean and Logan is lust and subconscious desire. But again, a matter of opinion. You prefer Jean and Logan, I don't. That is simple.
OK. I'll disagree with you about the "most fundamental nature" of their relationship, but whatever.
I actually agree with FieryBalrog. Jean and Logan's relationship is not only about lust. I recall the issue where Logan's adamantium gets ripped out of him by Magneto and it's Jean that Logan comes back from near death to save.
Plus, and this is probably a very unpopular opinion, but I feel (especially after Scott and Emma) that if given the chance Logan would be more loyal to Jean than Scott would. I always felt that even though Jean and Scott were very much in love, it just never grew out of the "first love" stage. I don't think Scott particulary understands Jean. He always seems to not understand the more eviceral/powerful/animalistic side of Jean, whereas Logan very much understood it and they were kindred spirits in that respect. I just think, when push comes to shove, Logan would be down for Jean moreso than Scott.
Regardless of the relationship's complexion in the comics, the movieverse's version is based on strictly lust--nothing more. Heck, in the moviewerse Logan has only known Jean for all of 1 week between the first two films. Yet, his "heart belongs to her."
his heart belongs to her... in a deep... friendship kind of way. two ppl who understand each other...
and he wants to get his junk in her trunk.
Um, I'd have to say "No" to that. You can only get so deep in a week.
so does she...if she ever wanted to have his junk in her trunk.
but really... I don't think he ever thought of having sex when they first met...i mean..they just met when he was rescued... and in X2, they're just really good friends who are still attracted to each other, regardless of the way they feel for each other... they're good friends. Jean is always there for logan if he wanted to talk...-shrugs- what can i say? they love each other but in a friendship kind of way. nothing wrong with that...
Just like to point out that Jean encouraged this behavior with her powers.
I think she's considered getting him lovedrunk off her hump.
You need to watch the scene again.
I would just like to point out that Jean told Scott to "Live". Get over his grief. Not "make-out-on-my-grave! hey, feel free!"