Justice League Status Updates Thread - Part 1

[JAK®]

Ah ****, you beat me to it.

Seriously though, all this whining is ****ing annoying, because its from the same people who cried about DC "Not doing anything". Only confirms what I've thought for the longest time: people just like********* about whatever WB/DC does.

Nope. Not true. Sorry.

 

[The Batman]

Nope. Not true. Sorry.

Yup. Pretty much true. Sorry...actually, screw it, I'm not.

 

[JAK®]

Well I know I'm not one of those people. I never wanted WB to rush into anything. So the fact that I'm skeptical about a JL movie right now is quite consistent, thank you very much.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

If JLA were animated, not only would it raise the bar once again for superhero movies, it would be an amazing experience to see something like that on the big screen.

Yeah, Why not make a really high quality 2.5 hour 2D animated movie. I mean make it the bees knees in the animation department. Storywise DC animation has always been good. They should make an animated movie of such high quality that it will rival Pixar, Dreamworks, Studio Ghibli at the oscars.

I'd love to see this because for some reason 2D animated movies stopped coming to theaters.

And yeah, I'd keep it 2D.

 

[isaias7]

So WB is considering Justice League, Flash and WOnder Woman movies still. Let's whine about it because it's not exactly what we wanted. At this point I just don't care anymore about whether there are solo films leading to a Justice League movie, or a Justice movie leading to solo films. I want to see DC's superheroes on film.

And thank goodness is appears WB is willing to take more risks than fanboys are.

"They'll screw it up, why even try?"

I said it elsewhere, but I think it's a good sign that Berlanti and his team are still involved. It means WB trusts them. It's apparent that GREEN LANTERN's issues were largely studio/budget related. The original script for GREEN LANTERN was pretty good. If those writers are still involved, then it means WB has confidence in them, and hopefully won't be messing too much with the story and script this time around. Otherwise, the writers would likely have been removed from DC superhero projects, and new ones brought in.

I don't get this whole "WB will screw it up". WB got Green Lantern right, they just didn't quite nail the approach to making his villains work on film or all the specifics of his origin.

No one at WB has come out and said we'll see THE JUSTICE LEAGUE first. For all we know, MAN OF STEEL does well, and we'll see THE FLASH and WONDER WOMAN and THEN the JLA movie.

There's more than one way to make this happen. Yes, Marvel's approach worked, but their approach worked for two main reasons:

1. Most people didn't know much, if anything. about Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury. You cannot say that about Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman.

2. Building hype in terms of the connections between movies, and the buildup to The Avengers. It's not like a JLA film can't be hyped.

It's a little sad that because something worked, that now that's the only way fans will accept a superhero franchise. I don't think the solo films are all that neccessary to introduce these larger than life characters. For instance, I just started reading the new 52's JUSTICE LEAGUE: ORIGIN. There's almost no introduction to the characters in terms of their solo worlds. Wonder of wonders, by the end of it, I had a pretty good idea of who they were anyway. Anyone who can't see how these characters can be established within a JLA movie, in my mind, has little to no imagination.

How the heck is WB rushing things with this? The Justice League writer has been aboard for a year, and we know Berlanti has been on Flash for a while, and that Wonder Woman has been in development for some time.

The bottom line is, either they're going to make good Justice League and solo hero films, or they're not, and either people will be interested in it, or they won't.

DC dosent announce any movies being made:

"MArvel's kicking your ass! You only care about Batman and Superman! WAHHH!"

DC announces its trying to make a Justice League flick, reminds people they're still trying to make WW and Flash films:

"DC is rushing things! They'll screw this up! WAHHH!"

Jesus Christ.

Exactly, I'm on board with this and very excited. I know is going to work out.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Please, I'm not whining. I'm voicing my concerns and want this to do well and done right. I'm all for a JL film if it gets proper attention.

I'm strictly talking about if this movie fails. They're putting everything into it and what if it blows up in their faces? Then no solo films. Credit to WB for taking the risk, but if it fails, then it fails big time and that prolongs the chance of seeing people's favorite superheroes in their own solo films for a long, long time.

Now if it succeeds, that will be amazing. If they succeed with JL then it will gain confidence in going the solo route and all will be fine until we see the solo films. And I was wrong and I will glad to be wrong.

I'm pleased to see this morning with the news that Wonder Woman has a writer, so that could mean we're getting solo films first.

And it's not whining about WB copying Marvel, I'm concerned about WB because of their track record. It doesn't help with the failed JL film they tried to make five years ago. With their history, I don't have much confidence in them. It's about my confidence in them to deliver as a studio and from what I've seen, I'm not. I'd be all for this if evidence to the contrary was there, but again, it's not.

Three great Batman films which are a for sure successful brand, SR which didn't accomplish what they wanted, a now Superman reboot that's just gotten out of the Donner era that they should have learned before SR, a failed GL film, a recently cancelled WW film from Whedon (which they must be regretting) a Flash film that's been in development for God knows how long. All this took more than 30 years to do since the first Superman film. Marvel did it in less than ten. They showed us they could do that furthering the confidence for a Avengers film. And yes, compared to Marvel, WB has what I listed above. Now which am I gonna go with?

I remember the naysayers about Avengers and how it was a risk if Thor and Cap didn't do well and all that. But at least if they didn't, they didn't all fail together as one.

Hey, all of these things are risky and ambitious and could fail. But it's like any other huge film. Get great talented people who know their ****. WB has done it a few times, and in 30 years... that isn't all that impressive to me. So why should I have confidence in them with a JL film right now?

 

[The Batman]

Please, I'm not whining. I'm voicing my concerns and want this to do well and done right.

Honestly, this just sounds like a nice sugar coated version of what I'm saying. People "Voiced their concerns" about DC not jumping on CBM movie craze, and now that they announce that they're trying, people are "voicing their concerns" about track records and not doing things "The right way", which for the most part just seems like copying another studios way of doing things.

People demand films from WB, then when they say "We have writers working on this", their track record gets thrown in their face. They develop a Lobo movie, with The Rock potentially starring in it, and you get lame sarcastic remarks like "Oh yeah, this'll definetely comete with Avengers"...then WB announces a JL film, and its "This looks like they're trying to ripoff Avengers".

You act like WB cant try to do a solo film if JL fails. That is not the case. This sounds like a case of fanboys overthinking and being neurotic.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

I think you're taking this the wrong way. People do want DC/WB to try other CB characters...it's just the way they're moving forward with these plans that doesn't exactly give you confidence.

It's not the same as fans just likes to whine about WB/DC...

And i do agree with you though, going the Marvel route isn't the only way.

Take the most recent example- the X-men movies. Furthermore, two of the main characters from JL doesn't really need an introduction, namely Batman and Superman.

And even if the JL movie should fail,there're bounds to be characters that the GA would love anyway, like Wolverine from X-men...so it's gonna be spin-offs from JL instead of origin movies.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm not overthinking it. I'm critically thinking this through and trying to see both sides here and trying to be reasonable. Why is voicing my concerns suddenly seen as whining and complaining?

What I mean by "doing it right" is that the JL film is done in the best possible way in what it is trying to accomplish and prove someone like me wrong.

I thought I said I was glad they're getting a writer on Wonder Woman and hope they develop it well. GL was a film plagued by too many cooks in the kitchen. But you know, by now, WB should know not to **** this kind of stuff up when they're depending on something they put so much money in.

Of course JL is a response to the recent success of Avengers. It's no coincidence that they're looking at their plan. But hey, they could be drawing up new plans and wanting to handle this thing with care.

Honestly, I bring up their track record because all that WB seems to know what to do with their superhero properties is produce Batman and Superman. And they don't seem to have other ones off the ground. WB has that ability. They were in a better position than Marvel all these years to make other superhero properties and they they never came to fruition. But they did it with GL and it failed. And a couple years ago, I had faith in WB for delivering a good GL film that would spearhead the movement of more DC superheroes coming to screen. I'm not saying just because GL failed doesn't mean they can't get WW or Flash right. They very well can. They just have to learn from their mistakes, and they've made a lot. The bad outweighs the good.

You know what, with the position they're in, they might as well do a JL film. Because we dont' know if the next Batman films will take place in the JL universe, we don't know if they'll want to put Cavill's Superman in with the JL, and GL failed so you have all of these complications with fitting that in. JL would give them the ability to have a clean slate, and if it succeeds, they can produce solo films and start fresh. And if it's gonna work this way, then that's how it's gonna work. It's not perfect, but at least they're producing high quality films and are succeeding. This is a great big if though.

This all sounds great and if this is how things turn out, I won't complain. It's fine if you have faith or confidence in them, but I don't right now with yes, their track record. I give them credit for taking the risk and trying, but it's hard for me to believe in them at this point.

Their track record is brought up because it's a reasonable concern. Can you honestly blame people for voicing their concerns because of it? Especially yes, with their track record. Everybody wants a great DC movie. But at this point, with how WB seems to be handling everybody, it's hard for people to believe in them. It's not just about complaining and being whiners, they actually care.

People are voicing their concerns because they love these characters and want to see them done in a good way. They don't want to have less faith in WB but they do.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Nope. Not true. Sorry.

And Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose...

 

[C. Lee]

A reminder to people....if you can not be civil to others when posting.....do not post.

If you have to bypass the censor to curse in your post....do not post.

 

[lililatigresse]

Why people keep saying that a JL film is a response to TA?
I thought they already were planning a film but stopped it because of Nolan? Now that Nolan's trilogy is coming to an end, I thought it was obvious that they will do it.
Only now, after the success of TA and the flop of GL they know they must do it right because they can make a lot of money!

And you know, the solo films can fail too. And then, what do you do? Honestly, after the flop of GL, I'm not surprised they are developing a new strategy. At least, they can reboot GL like that.

 

[marcvader]

I'm looking forward to a JLA movie. Hopefully it works out for DC.

 

[roach]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Justice-League-Script-Described-Dark-Mature-31282.html

its not in response to Avengers...the guy was commissioned to write the script a year ago

 

[dnno1]

Which means that the script might be farther along than we think. Still might be a couple of years before we actually get to see a film, though.

 

[Donut]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Justice-League-Script-Described-Dark-Mature-31282.html

its not in response to Avengers...the guy was commissioned to write the script a year ago

I got to say that. It is impressive that they. Kept it quiet until now

 

[mclay18]

I got to say that. It is impressive that they. Kept it quiet until now

I'm actually shocked Toldja's Nikki Finke or Mike Fleming didn't scoop it before Variety did. Maybe that's because Finke is sick and can't scoop every little tidbit like she used to do...

 

[marcvader]

I'm just hoping we are actually getting something this time around and not just the usual Hollywood bs.

 

[KangConquers]

I think there's an obvious element of response to Avengers here. Ultimately though? I don't give a ****. If it takes Avengers making 3 Trillion Dollars to get Warner Bros to start treating their own properties well, then I'm all for it.

If they make a great movie, it will stand on it's own, and not be viewed as a response.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Ah ****, you beat me to it.

Seriously though, all this whining is ****ing annoying, because its from the same people who cried about DC "Not doing anything". Only confirms what I've thought for the longest time: people just like ******** about whatever WB/DC does.

Nope it's not that. It's more that WB for the longes time swore that they didn't have JL in the plans, and had no plans to make a JL movie. They've been saying this ever since the failed JL: Mortal project fell through. They have even said this a few months before The Avengers was released that it was not in their plans.

Now after The Avengers was a mega powerhouse hit, only now they start going for a Justice League movie, and it's only a reaction to The Avengers. To say otherwise is just plain wrong because it's as obvious as the sun coming up today. The general fear is that WB could be doing this for the wrong reason and may make it as a rash reaction to The Avengers success, and it may not get the quality it deserves. Whether it will actually be like that remains to be seen.

I'm not opposed to the idea at all, I'm just saying that WB should not try to rush the movie out, which I'm inclined to believe they won't since they seem to be fine for the next few years.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Nope it's not that. It's more that WB for the longes time swore that they didn't have JL in the plans, and had no plans to make a JL movie. They've been saying this ever since the failed JL: Mortal project fell through. They have even said this a few months before The Avengers was released that it was not in their plans.

Now after The Avengers was a mega powerhouse hit, only now they start going for a Justice League movie, and it's only a reaction to The Avengers. To say otherwise is just plain wrong because it's as obvious as the sun coming up today. The general fear is that WB could be doing this for the wrong reason and may make it as a rash reaction to The Avengers success, and it may not get the quality it deserves. Whether it will actually be like that remains to be seen.

At the latest, Justice League talk started stirring again in March 2011 and the writer has been working on the script for about a year.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/29/business/la-fi-0329-ct-warner-robinov-20110329

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

The articles on this page are definitely more uplifting. At least it's sounding like it's not a reaction to Justice League.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

The articles on this page are definitely more uplifting. At least it's sounding like it's not a reaction to Justice League.

you mean The Avengers! hah

 

[MarvelKnight]

I don't care whether DC uses Marvel's model or not. I just want an effin JL movie at some point.

But there is also more than one way to skin a cat, DC just has to synch it up, honker down and figure out that different way.

 

[KangConquers]

I don't care whether DC uses Marvel's model or not. I just want an effin JL movie at some point.

But there is also more than one way to skin a cat, DC just has to synch it up, honker down and figure out that different way.

This times 100.