Justice League Status Updates Thread - Part 1

[Mr_GoldenAge]

Time for an update. ^^


http://www.musicrooms.net/movies/49230-chris-nolan-in-the-frame-to-head-up-dc-s-justice-league.html

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

So...the saga continues. Since WB has chosen to play catchup now,they might as well at least tie it to GL and Man of Steel. Sure wasnt all that good, but at least you'd get 2 out of the 5 probable members out the way. I still insist that with proper scriptin you could just do a standalone thing. For lack of a better example, in The Incredibles they dont explain any origins, they just go "this is a world where superheroes exist." Yeah, its more complicated because DC heroes do have backgrounds. Still, it is possible.

 

[Dark Raven]

So if Nolan is heading up efforts to bring the Justice League to the big screen, but doesn't want either his Batman franchise or the Man of Steel franchise to be connected to anything else, then what's going to happen as far as the team is concerned? Maybe he'll have films made of all the individual members but they won't ever actually team up? Technically that would be the Justice League out there, but just not in the same movie.

He's going to have to compromise on his stance at some point if he's heading up a TEAM movie where its members interact. Or do we have to wait until the MOS trilogy is finished and we have another Batman franchise too?

 

[protocida]

Justice League will feature a new Batman.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Yeah... Bale Bats is done and honestly thats the way it should be. I love him and would gladly have him play the role for another 10 years, but I just don't think its meant to be that way.

It's rare for any superhero character/their respective actor to get a complete, successful, critically acclaimed story up on the big screen, with a solid beginning, middle and end (we hope).

It's the end of an era... and I want Christian Bale's Batman to be complete within his trilogy.


Kick things off with Man of Steel next summer...

 

[Dark Raven]

Hopefully Justice League will fix Superman's costume just like there were several tweaks in The Avengers. But if it's going all dark, then that probably won't happen. I don't want to see Dark Justice League though. We didn't get Dark Avengers so why does JL have to be different just for the sake of being different? If anything, Justice League and DC should be brighter than Marvel.

 

[Rocketman]

I'd like 2011's Green Lantern to just go ahead and be connected to the JL movie. Why not? Give us the Yellow Sinestro as one of the JL's villains.

If we MUST reboot Green Lantern too, give us Nathan Fillion like it should've been in the first place.

Nathan Fillion - Green Lantern
Bradley Cooper - The Flash
Megan Gale - Wonder Woman
Dennis Haysbert - Martian Manhunter
Henry Cavill - Superman
Jon Hamm - Batman

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah... Bale Bats is done and honestly thats the way it should be. I love him and would gladly have him play the role for another 10 years, but I just don't think its meant to be that way.

It's rare for any superhero character/their respective actor to get a complete, successful, critically acclaimed story up on the big screen, with a solid beginning, middle and end (we hope).

It's the end of an era... and I want Christian Bale's Batman to be complete within his trilogy.


Kick things off with Man of Steel next summer...

That's exactly how I feel. It should stay self contained. Nolan and Bale did something very special and having him appear in something that could end up being a disaster kind of dilutes that effort.

 

[Dark Raven]

Why did they get Ryan Reynolds for Green Lantern when he seems like he would've been a better fit for the Flash? I'm ok with having the same Green Lantern, but equally I'm not too bothered either, as having a different Banner in The Avengers didn't hurt the movie.

Of all the Marvel films preceding the Avengers, the one film that people I know saw least was TIH. I don't know how much of the general audience really bothered to watch Green Lantern, especially since it didn't have a great word of mouth report.

 

[craigdbfan]

Chris Pine would have been a better Hal Jordan. Always wanted him.

 

[Dark Raven]

If bigger actors than Henry Cavill get cast for some of the other roles, who ends up first in the cast? It doesn't seem right to have someone else (other than maybe Batman) above Superman. What if Ryan Reynolds is in the movie? Is he more well known than Cavill? What if he's more well known than whoever plays Batman? Will he be the one headlining this movie? I hope not.

 

[Tony Stark]

Chris Pine would have been a better Hal Jordan. Always wanted him.

He would have been better, but Pine is Kirk now and while Chris Evans was able to play two iconic characters, the F4 was pretty much ignored so people know him just as Captain America. In fact when I recently watched ROTSS on TV it was just weird seding Chris as Johnny Storm. I thought he was good in the roll at the time, but he's so much better as Cap.

Chris Pine is Kirk now for a new generation, and I'd rather see him explore other rolls outside of that, than to do other iconic characters. Captain Kirk basically is a superhero. He may not have superpowers, but he's got the "larger than life" feel to him.

 

[Rocketman]

If bigger actors than Henry Cavill get cast for some of the other roles, who ends up first in the cast? It doesn't seem right to have someone else (other than maybe Batman) above Superman. What if Ryan Reynolds is in the movie? Is he more well known than Cavill? What if he's more well known than whoever plays Batman? Will he be the one headlining this movie? I hope not.

That's a contract thing. I don't agree with Mr. Freeze being higher than Batman in the cast list for BATMAN and Robin.

 

[Dark Raven]

That's a contract thing. I don't agree with Mr. Freeze being higher than Batman in the cast list for BATMAN and Robin.

Yeah, but it's a contract negotiated on behalf of the actors, who may be big stars. So for the Avengers, RDJ's agent will have negotiated for him to have top billing, and since he's probably the biggest star in the movie, he's rightly at the top of the film.

But is Henry Cavill that big? Is he any bigger than Chris Evans? I don't know if Ryan Reynolds is much bigger than Evans either for that matter. But say Martian Manhunter or the Flash is played by a big actor of RDJ's calibre. Does he get top billing? And what if Batman is a virtual unknown, especially if there isn't a rebooted Batman film before Justice League? Does that mean he ends up way down the cast?

I see in the casting thread people are suggesting Luke Evans as Batman, whoever he is. Will the billing really be Henry Cavill, Luke Evans, Ryan Reynolds etc? I really don't think Evans is a name actor.

George Clooney wasn't that well known at the time of Batman and Robin. That's why it would be better to have a rebooted Batman film before JL so that people can get to know the actor. Of course, it would've just been better to have Bale as Batman, since he's already known and carries around some weight to his name. The cast would look a heck of a lot better if it read Bale, Cavill etc than Cavill, Evans etc.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Alphabetical

 

[HighFivingMF]

Why did they get Ryan Reynolds for Green Lantern when he seems like he would've been a better fit for the Flash?

He's an actor, most actors can play more than one type of character. The character he played was Hal Jordan through and through. I'm sure if he played Wally West it would have been Wally West through and through as well.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'd like 2011's Green Lantern to just go ahead and be connected to the JL movie. Why not? Give us the Yellow Sinestro as one of the JL's villains.

I'd like for Sinestro to be a villain in a JLA movie, too, but I think he should have his own "Hal Vs. Sinestro" movie first.

 

[The Guard]

Why did they get Ryan Reynolds for Green Lantern when he seems like he would've been a better fit for the Flash? I'm ok with having the same Green Lantern, but equally I'm not too bothered either, as having a different Banner in The Avengers didn't hurt the movie

He was supposedly given a choice of roles, way back when. He chose Green Lantern.

 

[Brawl]

I'm talking about better from an overall film perspective. Look Avengers was a fun ride, but it wasn't this ground breaking piece of story telling or even a ground breaking piece of cinema.

Ummm, setting box office records are considered by most as ground breaking cinema.
'The Avengers' smashes domestic box office record for opening weekend

it was an entertaining ride that was executed fantastically and deserved the money it got at the box office. But the results for Nolan's desire to self-contain Batman speaks for itself. With no (or few) restraints he's been able to craft three very different movies, each with a unique and compelling story that is full of depth and great character arcs that require multiple viewings. There is no-way we get TDK or TDKR if Nolan was told by WB to go in a specific direction for a DC universe.

TDK was a great movie but in no way required multiple viewings. I would say that Watchman had a better chance of requiring multiple viewings than TDK. There was nothing deep or complex in the TDK plot line to warrant multiple viewings. As far as the movies not being able to be made without some guidance from the studio is ridiculous. All directors have to deal with some influence from the studio. That has nothing to do with the ability of the director being able to deliver a good movie.

We'll see with Man of Steel next year what happens when the objective is to treat each characters movie as it's own universe but I fully expect that film to also set itself apart. And I'm sorry, Thor and Captain America are still not in the same league as Donner's Superman.

Superman the movie was nominated for awards based on its music score and visual effects mainly. Gene Hackman played one of the worst campy villains of all time. What made S1 great was Chris Reeve. Bottom line. He was probably the best casted comic book character with maybe only Snipes as Blade challenging him for that spot. I agree that Thor, Cap are not in the same arena as cinema "Classics" as S1 is considered by most but neither is TDK or TDKR. All 4 are just really good comic book movies.

 

[Brawl]

Ryan Ryneolds was a waste of time as GL if you want the movie to be taken seriously. He can maybe play Deadpool or some other comedic hero but he was totally wrong for a serious space cop. I think the idea the first writer had of Common as Green Lantern would be a much better fit. You kill 2 birds with one stone. You diversify the the moivie at the same time keeping JLA traditional.

HELL NO to Common as Green Lantern. The guy can't act for ****.

Have you seen the TV series Hell on Wheels? He did great in that series. I have never seen Ryan Rynolds deliver that caliber of acting to date.

 

[Brawl]

Chris Pine would have been a better Hal Jordan. Always wanted him.

Agree. Yes he is Kirk now but I don't think it would conflict as much as Evans did playing Cap and Torch or even Ryan did play Deadpool, Hannibal King, and GL. I mean 1 guy playing 3 different comic book characters was a bit much. I think John Duhamel also would make a much better Hal Jordan.

 

[sethypants]

He's an actor, most actors can play more than one type of character. The character he played was Hal Jordan through and through. I'm sure if he played Wally West it would have been Wally West through and through as well.

Its likely going to be Barry Allen though.

 

[sethypants]

TDK was a great movie but in no way required multiple viewings. I would say that Watchman had a better chance of requiring multiple viewings than TDK. There was nothing deep or complex in the TDK plot line to warrant multiple viewings. As far as the movies not being able to be made without some guidance from the studio is ridiculous. All directors have to deal with some influence from the studio. That has nothing to do with the ability of the director being able to deliver a good movie.



Superman the movie was nominated for awards based on its music score and visual effects mainly. Gene Hackman played one of the worst campy villains of all time. What made S1 great was Chris Reeve. Bottom line. He was probably the best casted comic book character with maybe only Snipes as Blade challenging him for that spot. I agree that Thor, Cap are not in the same arena as cinema "Classics" as S1 is considered by most but neither is TDK or TDKR. All 4 are just really good comic book movies.

Uhm what?
Come on. I hate Batman but even I loved Batman Begins and TDK. I watch both like more than twice.

 

[sethypants]

I'd like 2011's Green Lantern to just go ahead and be connected to the JL movie. Why not? Give us the Yellow Sinestro as one of the JL's villains.

If we MUST reboot Green Lantern too, give us Nathan Fillion like it should've been in the first place.

Nathan Fillion - Green Lantern
Bradley Cooper - The Flash
Megan Gale - Wonder Woman
Dennis Haysbert - Martian Manhunter
Henry Cavill - Superman
Jon Hamm - Batman

I... dont think Nathan Fillon would fit GL. I believe he isn't of the right weight and age.
I would stick with Reynolds or Gosling if they wanna change up the character.

 

[jmc]

Ummm, setting box office records are considered by most as ground breaking cinema.
'The Avengers' smashes domestic box office record for opening weekend

Oh that's right, I forgot box office equate to being ground braking. Dah.

TDK was a great movie but in no way required multiple viewings. I would say that Watchman had a better chance of requiring multiple viewings than TDK. There was nothing deep or complex in the TDK plot line to warrant multiple viewings. As far as the movies not being able to be made without some guidance from the studio is ridiculous. All directors have to deal with some influence from the studio. That has nothing to do with the ability of the director being able to deliver a good movie.


Superman the movie was nominated for awards based on its music score and visual effects mainly. Gene Hackman played one of the worst campy villains of all time. What made S1 great was Chris Reeve. Bottom line. He was probably the best casted comic book character with maybe only Snipes as Blade challenging him for that spot. I agree that Thor, Cap are not in the same arena as cinema "Classics" as S1 is considered by most but neither is TDK or TDKR. All 4 are just really good comic book movies.

Ah, the old playing down the quality of TDK and Batman Begins argument. Never get tired of hearing that.