Justice League Status Updates Thread - Part 1

[Brawl]

Oh that's right, I forgot box office equate to being ground braking. Dah.

Ah, the old playing down the quality of TDK and Batman Begins argument. Never get tired of hearing that.

BO record breaking occurs usually due to a movie breaking ground in one form or another making people come and see the movie to witness the event. Never before in my knowledge has 4 movies been made about different characters just to team them up in a joint movie experience. It was a resounding success.

If you noticed in my comments I stated that Batman Begins, TDK were great movies. The only thing I might disagree with you is that I doubt BMB or TDK will go down in cinema history as a "classic" to non-superhero fans in the same fashion Superman the Movie did. Bale played as Bat-Man, Reeves was Superman. The comment that the BMB and TDK both required multiple viewing I felt was unfounded. 6th Sense, Memento now those movies required multiple viewings. TDK movies were straight forward. Storyline was great, Acting superb, special effects decent. nothing complex but it really doesn't have to be to be a really entertaining movie.

 

[Raiden]

Dude, WB has been trying to get JL off the ground for years and were willing to do it 4 years ago, so lets not make out that Avengers made them suddenly realized they had their own superhero team, ok?

So their recent announcement for a writer to work on the JLA movie only a month after TA's record-breaking OW was just a coincidence? The reason why WB is dusting the project from their attic is because of TA's enormous success. This is Hollywood, where studios love to copy each other's winning formulas, and WB is no exception.

 

[HighFivingMF]

So their recent announcement for a writer to work on the JLA movie only a month after TA's record-breaking OW was just a coincidence? The reason why WB is dusting the project from their attic is because of TA's enormous success. This is Hollywood, where studios love to copy each other's winning formulas, and WB is no exception.

He's been writing the movie for about a year though. They've been planning on doing it, they just used the opportunity of extra attention on team-ups to let word out and raise awareness.

 

[jmc]

So their recent announcement for a writer to work on the JLA movie only a month after TA's record-breaking OW was just a coincidence? The reason why WB is dusting the project from their attic is because of TA's enormous success. This is Hollywood, where studios love to copy each other's winning formulas, and WB is no exception.

Well dah, of course they saw the dollar signs and that has prompted them into doing something now, that doesn't negate the fact they've wanted a JL film years before. Again lets not make out JL hasn't been on the cards for a while, Avengers is just the push WB was looking for.

 

[metaphysician]

There's also the contingency factor: a year back, WB new Avengers was coming. Getting a screenwriter to write a script is cheap; WB probably wanted to have an option on hand for if Avengers turned into a mega hit. If it flopped, we probably wouldn't be hearing about this.

 

[Airwings]

Wally West would be better to have for a movie. Having Barry Allen would make all the personalities too serious. We already have rather serious types in Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and I don't imagine Martian Manhunter cracking any jokes.

What's wrong the heroes being serious characters when they team up against a HUGE threat? Sure there can be funny moments, but I would prefer more seriousness than some joke-cracking just for the sake of it.

JJ Abrams has an exclusive contract with Paramount. He will not direct Justice League.

Funny that you quoted the only thing in my post that didn't have anything to do with Abrams. It was about Peter Jackson. t:

I'm sorry, but I don't want Abrams anywhere near anything to do with Superman whatsoever...

A couple of years back, people kind of said the same thing about Joss Whedon. They didn't want him anywhere near Avengers....

 

[Changeling]

What's wrong the heroes being serious characters when they team up against a HUGE threat? Sure there can be funny moments, but I would prefer more seriousness than some joke-cracking just for the sake of it.

Funny that you quoted the only thing in my post that didn't have anything to do with Abrams. It was about Peter Jackson. t:

A couple of years back, people kind of said the same thing about Joss Whedon. They didn't want him anywhere near Avengers....

You're being ignorant. Abrams butchered Superman in his treatment. When did Joss Whedon butcher a beloved character? This argument means ****ing nothing.

Superman is in JL and there is a history of Abrams completely not understanding that character, so that is more than enough reason for people not to want Abrams.

Your argument about people not wanting Joss Whedon before the Avengers has nothing to do with JJ Abrams


With that being said, I could get into Abrams doing JL
But I'd prefer Brad Bird, David Yates, Ridley Scott, Alfonso Cuaron way before him

 

[Airwings]

Changeling: Ridley Scott!! I can't imagine what it will be like if HE decided to take on a classic DC superhero. The most awesome of the awesome?
JL would be soo cool, but I rather have him do a solo film. Sorry to say that.
but he could dive into one character and its mythology. Aquaman? Flash? Wonder Woman? Hawkman? What would suit him the most?

 

[Dark Raven]

You're being ignorant. Abrams butchered Superman in his treatment. When did Joss Whedon butcher a beloved character? This argument means ****ing nothing.

Superman is in JL and there is a history of Abrams completely not understanding that character, so that is more than enough reason for people not to want Abrams.

Your argument about people not wanting Joss Whedon before the Avengers has nothing to do with JJ Abrams


With that being said, I could get into Abrams doing JL
But I'd prefer Brad Bird, David Yates, Ridley Scott, Alfonso Cuaron way before him

What did Abrams do and which treatment is this? What was he trying to do with Superman?

 

[BlueLightning]

A couple of years back, people kind of said the same thing about Joss Whedon. They didn't want him anywhere near Avengers....

You should read his script treatment. From what I have seen, it was nothing that resembled Superman.

Edit:

I'm sorry, but I don't want Abrams anywhere near anything to do with Superman whatsoever...

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=jjabrams-review

 

[I Am The Knight]

Changeling: Ridley Scott!! I can't imagine what it will be like if HE decided to take on a classic DC superhero. The most awesome of the awesome?
JL would be soo cool, but I rather have him do a solo film. Sorry to say that.
but he could dive into one character and its mythology. Aquaman? Flash? Wonder Woman? Hawkman? What would suit him the most?

I think he would go for something like WW, focusing heavily on the Gods and mythology that make up her universe.

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Regarding Abrams: Just because he wrote an "offensive" Superman script about 10 years doesn't mean he can't direct a JL movie. His franchise movies are generally imbued with a sense of fun without being too silly, while delivering big time on the action front. Let someone else write the script if needed. With that said, I doubt he would be interested, having his own franchise and all.

 

[Octoberist]

It looks like El May of Latino Review has gotten a hold of 'Justice League's 20 paged treatment.

https://***********/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376

 

[Changeling]

Holy ****, and Mayimbe usually hooks it up for the fanboys... I can't wait to see what he thinks

 

[Eddie Dean]

I love JJ's Superman script just for how crazily stupid it is. Lex Luthor as a secret Kryptonian FBI Agent with Kung Fu powers is a stroke of brilliance.

 

[Changeling]

I'd still love to see that movie, if it weren't a Superman movie...

 

[protocida]

I'm interested.

 

[The Guard]

Later Abrams SUPERMAN drafts featured a more Corporate Lex characterization, and no Kryptonian superpowers.

Krypton didn't blow up in any of the drafts, but there was some fantastic story potential in its place. Superman would have lost Krypton in a sequel.

 

[Airwings]

I think he would go for something like WW, focusing heavily on the Gods and mythology that make up her universe.

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Regarding Abrams: Just because he wrote an "offensive" Superman script about 10 years doesn't mean he can't direct a JL movie. His franchise movies are generally imbued with a sense of fun without being too silly, while delivering big time on the action front. Let someone else write the script if needed. With that said, I doubt he would be interested, having his own franchise and all.

So true. He could surprise us all with a Justice League.
Peple seem to have forgotten that Joss Whedon was called a hack who couldn't possible do Avengers justice. And that is the similarity between Abrams and Whedon in this case.
Look at Star Trek. Nemesis had already tried to get more action into the series, but Abrams heated up things a lot more, and it felt fresh and modern.

Ridley Scott and Wonder Woman? Might work, but only for the elements of acient times and war. Not the fantasy parts of it, because he's more into science fiction. And with his return to "space adventures", I think a take on Green Lantern, either sequel or reboot, could suit him better.

 

[sethypants]

So their recent announcement for a writer to work on the JLA movie only a month after TA's record-breaking OW was just a coincidence? The reason why WB is dusting the project from their attic is because of TA's enormous success. This is Hollywood, where studios love to copy each other's winning formulas, and WB is no exception.

Didn't they reported that the script has been in development for a while? At least thats what WB and Mark Millar is saying. Also considering Mark Millar is working at Marvel I think it holds even more weight.

 

[sethypants]

It looks like El May of Latino Review has gotten a hold of 'Justice League's 20 paged treatment.

https://***********/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376

I hate that person right now. Makes me so envious.

 

[JackMercy]

Didn't they reported that the script has been in development for a while? At least thats what WB and Mark Millar is saying. Also considering Mark Millar is working at Marvel I think it holds even more weight.

Why would Millar's ties to Marvel have absolutely anything to do with what Warner/DC is developing?

The only "weight" Millar holds is the pint of Guinness he throws back each night before he half-drunkenly posts an exaggerated message about so-called Hollywood happenings on his website...

(A bit harsh, perhaps, but closer to the truth than what Millar often comes up with!)

 

[sethypants]

Why would Millar's ties to Marvel have absolutely anything to do with what Warner/DC is developing?

The only "weight" Millar holds is the pint of Guinness he throws back each night before he half-drunkenly posts an exaggerated message about so-called Hollywood happenings on his website...

(A bit harsh, perhaps, but closer to the truth than what Millar often comes up with!)

Because if Geoff Johns is the one tweeting about an awesome movie being developed, you'll be like "well duh, he is gonna say good stuff about DC".
If its Mark Millar he has got no reason to "promote" for DC or WB whatsoever. So it seems like it'll be a true reflections of what he is feeling.
Also its being reported that it has been in development for a while and it coincides the news that was being reported. Jeff Robinov did mention several times about the Justice League movie.

 

[SteveG]

But it seems like a cheat to me. To put these characters in a team up movie first. Not only does it look like a move on WB's part to copy the success of the Avengers, but don't these characters deserve their own film before all of this?

I gotta agree with ya. Part of the genius (as well as the fun) of the Avengers and lead up to the Avengers-was the following of a comic book 'sequential way of thinking.
Each characters individual film setting the ground work for his individual place in the Avengers movie. You don't have to tell each characters 'origin' because its already told.
Also...each characters film sets up the non comicbook reader (who isnt familiar with the character)--sets him up quite nicely for the avengers movie.

CAN the JLA work by itself? Yeah...i guess to a degree. But not nearly as well because so much time is spent in the movie itself setting up the main individual characters.

It IS a cheat and really undercuts the DC stable of characters when you try and go for the Desert (the TEAM MOVIE) WITHOUT eating your entre's (INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER MOVIES).
...and short changes and cheats the audience as well.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Why would Millar's ties to Marvel have absolutely anything to do with what Warner/DC is developing?

The only "weight" Millar holds is the pint of Guinness he throws back each night before he half-drunkenly posts an exaggerated message about so-called Hollywood happenings on his website...

(A bit harsh, perhaps, but closer to the truth than what Millar often comes up with!)

I love you, man.

 

[rayc1971]

But it seems like a cheat to me. To put these characters in a team up movie first. Not only does it look like a move on WB's part to copy the success of the Avengers, but don't these characters deserve their own film before all of this?

I gotta agree with ya. Part of the genius (as well as the fun) of the Avengers and lead up to the Avengers-was the following of a comic book 'sequential way of thinking.
Each characters individual film setting the ground work for his individual place in the Avengers movie. You don't have to tell each characters 'origin' because its already told.
Also...each characters film sets up the non comicbook reader (who isnt familiar with the character)--sets him up quite nicely for the avengers movie.

CAN the JLA work by itself? Yeah...i guess to a degree. But not nearly as well because so much time is spent in the movie itself setting up the main individual characters.

It IS a cheat and really undercuts the DC stable of characters when you try and go for the Desert (the TEAM MOVIE) WITHOUT eating your entre's (INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER MOVIES).
...and short changes and cheats the audience as well.

not a total cheat superman and batman will have solo features out and green lantern.my friends who are non-comic book fans know the dc characters more than the marvel ones anyway.they have heard of wonder woman and the flash vs the marvel ones like thor and hawkeye so not a big deal.my non-comic book fans still went to see the avengers anyway because it was a event film now they want to see the thor solo movie and stuff.