Discussion in 'Marvel Films' started by socool, Apr 13, 2012.
Apart from money...
And then people will end up throwing money back to Marvel to see it...
Why does Feige not rhyme with Beige?
Imagine going into a store and asking for buy-gee coloured pants.
I've often pondered that very same question
Figured I'd pump this, put's all the planet hulk/wwh stuff to rest
Just as credible a source, much more credible in terms of actual claims.
In certain languages, the second vowel in the name would generally be the one emphasized. So in Feige the "i" is the second vowel, and would be the one pronounced. Like Heisenberg, Einstein, Weinberg, etc. Or so I've been told.
Latino Review wrong again.
Give El Mayimbe ban hammer if he hasn't gotten it already.
Planet Hulk would cost an astronomical amount of cash to make so I never believed it.
Agreed. It's one source's word against another, but this one's a lot easier to believe.
i want to see banner before Avengers 2, regardless.
yeah, i was just thinking it's very odd that we essentially wont see banner for 3-4 years since avengers. especially after all his hype. You'd think he'd be included some where...
I never believed it because everyone in Hollywood seems to think Banner is the star of "The Incredible Hulk" as a property and that the Hulk is a minor supporting character who can't even speak and has no personality or motivations of his own.
It's always about who is playing Banner with Hollywood so a movie without that actor getting all the narrative attention probably seems outrageous to them.
I want to see Ruffalo, not bothered about Banner .
Why wouldn't they? All the best Hulk runs have a strong emphasis on Banner as a character. Yes, even the Peter David run: the Professor Hulk is essentially "Banner in the Hulk's body."
Depends on what you mean by a "strong emphasis". I certainly would not mind if the movies/TV shows gave Banner the same amount of emphasis that the comics do. But Hollywood kicked the Hulk completely out of the narrative and gave ALL the emphasis to Banner.
So far, it's had very limited success (two movies that don't make the same money as Thor and Cap and a TV show with tepid ratings)...so maybe Hollywood should try something else? Maybe it's time to let the Hulk be the major character he is in the comics? That's the name on the movie marquee that people are buying tickets to see (once...Banner bores the crap out of them and they don't come back or give the movie good word of mouth).
But I have no doubt Hollywood will keep shoving Banner down everyone's throat and wonder why the Hulk isn't a big hit.
This also depends on what "best runs" is. That is a different thing for everyone. Planet Hulk and WWHulk are some of the most talked about and Banner isn't a factor at all.
Hmm, well then. T'was fake.
Avengers 3 = World War Hulk
After Thanos in Avengers 2, this actually makes sense.
Planet Hulk is more viable as a concept than Guardians of the Galaxy, so I don't see why it couldn't be one of the set up films for the above.
Because PH would require having a CGI Hulk as the main character for 2 hours. In the three movies we've had with Hulk, he's barely said 5 lines. Clearly Marvel doesn't think he can be anything more than a brute.
From speaking, anywhere. Forever.
Well Whedon just shot it down. How much longer before Nolan debunks LR's report of him helming every DC film, Snyder doing JLA, and Christian Bale returning as Batman?
LR used to be really reputable. They're really letting us down.
Perhaps El Maybe is going to say that it's all a Whedon conspiracy and that he's lying just to discredit LR.
If both of El Mayimbe's big scoops are proven debunked (for the moment LR can point to pass denials of scoops they got right), they should cut him loose.
Both seem a bit too much to be true. Planet Hulk and WWH? Seemed unlikely from the outset.
And Nolan overseeing all of DC's film work and Bale returning for a Justice League Batman? Seems unlikely again. That looks more like fan wish fulfilment than anything that is especially logical or practical, given the evidence to hand.
Seems more likely to me at the moment these scoops are either made up (shame on him if that is the case), or his sources are bogus (he's getting bad info from bad leads), or he has been played by the studios big time (Legit sources who have seen him coming).
Of course, there's still the possibility, however unlikely, that he might be right. But I'll only beleive that when I see it.
You guys are taking this personal on Hulk's behalf, and I don't think that's reasonable. The concern is entirely practical. Hulk is expensive to have on screen, and he's even more expensive to have on screen and do right. All-CGI superheroes right now are 200M for dodgy effects only on the screen for half the film (re: Green Lantern). Hulk done right would be more expensive, and RDJ's Iron Man is barely recouping a 200M budget, and Hulk isn't on that level.
But the problem goes further, as per Joss Whedon:
And people love to say "Well, now that Joss disagrees with me, he doesn't know what he's talking about" but at the end of the day, a quality Hulk movie is a challenge on a creative level because the concepts are so different and the Banner/Hulk dynamic can cause even great directors like Ang Lee and Louis Leterrier to go off course.
BUT wait you say, forget Banner! That's the cry of the New Hulk fans, they love WWHulk, Planet Hulk, Fall of Hulks, Worldbreaker all that Gammaporn (tm). Hulk is the central character there... and he is valued by his feats, especially his ability to thoroughly best otherwise incredibly powerful Marvel characters. And best them he does!
Unfortunately, it's unfilmable, as the number of CGI characters creates an exponential cost increase. Also, honestly, his value is derived largely from guest spots, and not just that, guest spots in which the guest is shown to be inferior to Hulk both physically and morally, even if the guest is the entirety of the rest of the Marvel Universe (ala World War Hulk). I'd rather not have a Hulk movie if it means beating up the rest of the MCU and showing them how wrong they are compared to the noble warrior king. Even WWH doesn't work without Surfer/BetaRayBill. I can see what the MCU wouldn't do that with their universe.
I know many people love Hulk, but if you think it's because he talks and has his own thoughts, you're mistaken about the core appeal of the character.