The Dark Knight Rises Life after Nolan: What comes next...

[Knight Rise]

i think something with Batman and Robin first. After that, I wouldn't mind seeing a Batman Beyond film

 

[Mister H.]

My oddball, leftfield, no chance in hell fantasy would have David Lynch adapting "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House On Serious Earth" as a one-off arthouse deconstruction of the Batman legend. That would be shangra-la.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

After Nolan...how long do you think it'll be before we have another Batman movie? Do you think WB will be careful to not move too quick and destroy what's been with Batman on film the last 7 years (including 2012), or do you think they strike while the iron is hot, on the heels of the Nolan franchise with a new Batman film not related of course to Nolan's?

If they wait a long, long time...I'm seriously going to get desperate for some Batman. At least we'll have Nolan's movies to watch.

 

[returntovoid]

My oddball, leftfield, no chance in hell fantasy would have David Lynch adapting "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House On Serious Earth" as a one-off arthouse deconstruction of the Batman legend.

David Lynch??? Why didn't I think of such an interesting choice???

 

[Bat-Mite]

I think that an adaptation of All Star Batman and Robin would be cool. Make Batman psychotic, and the villains extremely dangerous (sure Heath's Joker killed a few people, but he didn't seem all that horribly violent to me).

TDK's Joker wasn't all that violent? He cut grins onto people instead of using laughing gas and killed someone almost every time he was on screen. I think the only scene (other than the ending) where he didn't kill someone was at the party. And that definitely wasn't from a lack of trying... I mean, he did throw Rachel out of the window. And even then, he was having people killed in other parts of the city, with the judge's car bomb and the acid in the commissioner's drink. IMO, the Joker doesn't need to be turned into a monster from a horror movie. TDK's Joker is as close to that as he should get.

 

[DaveMoral]

Seeing a child Robin on film would be much like watching those disgusting, cringeworthy Zorro Jr. scenes in the last Zorro movie. In my opinion, there is no possible way to make a young Dick as Robin work on film.

I'd like to see Dick Grayson, 14-15 yrs old, just orphaned, adopted by Bruce because of the similarities in their circumstances and Bruce thinks he knows what this kid needs.... which is to become what he is. Meanwhile, Bruce has been getting increasingly absorbed in Batman and moving away from Bruce Wayne. When he talks to Alfred he uses the Bat-voice, or a more moderated version of the Bat-voice, out of costume. It's worse in costume. He's moved by compassion to help this kid, without realizing that this kid is going to help him just as much if not more. Alfred has to usher in Bruce's mentoring of Dick, all with the goal of rescuing Bruce from the monster he's created in Batman. Humanizing both Bruce Wayne and the Batman. Without putting Dick in a costume and getting him out on the streets as Robin.

I just can't see it flying that Batman has his cowl, which armors his cranium while he lets this little kid jump into fights without head protection. At least not until Dick is old enough to make his own decisions, and even then I think a significantly re-humanized Batman would not let Dick go on the most dangerous missions. But we are talking when Dick is 16-17, not 14. Even then it might just be that Dick is up on a rooftop as a spotter for Batman.

I can't see him letting this kid go into a fight where there might be gunfire in any of the usual Robin costumes, Red Robin maybe.

Then again, audiences would buy it either way and general audiences probably wouldn't like to see a cowled Robin like Red Robin. Everyone in the world knows Batman & Robin, they know that Robin is just a kid and that all he's got on his head is a domino mask... so I don't think acceptance is a hurdle one has to jump as far as that goes. It's in-universe that the challenge comes into play. If Dick is older, well trained, and more experienced and decides he wants to wear the Robin gear without head protection... I could see Bruce letting him make that decision, under protest from Alfred of course.

 

[DaveMoral]

Lol, true, but after the BB criticism that the fights were too "fast" and closely edited together, I don't think they had much of choice but to slooooow it down for all to see.

I'm also not sure just how much they can do with that suit anyway. Even though it allowed for head movement, TDK suit was actually heavier than the BB one. IF they ever go the cloth route, I imagine the fights would be a little more...acrobatic, for those wishing to see that

The funny thing is. I don't think anyone that criticizes those fights knows squat about fighting. The Keysi Fighting Method is probably one of the better street fighting systems out there, and to have that adapted for screen use by Batman makes perfect sense. Flying kicks are the epitome of pointless flashy style over substance in martial arts.

As far as dealing with mutliple attackers KFM seems to be very similar to other styles I've researched, and could no doubt enrich the practice of people who study other styles that have a similar aim. The Arkham Asylum freeflow fighting system has a heavy dose of Nolan-verse KFM fighting in it, with the addition of totally unrealistic spinning heel kicks from 4 yards away. Fun in the game, but useless in reality and it would necessitate lots of wirework that I, frankly, don't tend to like outside of Hong Kong action films and even then I prefer it in the fantastical stuff that includes "qing gong" or "lightness skill." The Arkham City trailer is full of KFM influence too.

 

[Cobblepot]

Pretty sure after Nolan's done with his three movies we'll get a JLA movie.

 

[docdoc]

Pretty sure after Nolan's done with his three movies we'll get a JLA movie.

ya but not any time soon since there's a pretty good chance that this batman will be pull off from DC universe after TDKR, we got only 2 main characters have been introduced- Superman, Green Lantern.

It's goanna take WB some time to start another batman series and to give out green light to The Flash and Wonder Woman in order to bring them all into JLA, that's a 6~10 years time we're talking about.

but hell, I want good movies, not some avengers 5h!ts

 

[Grayson]

Warner Bros. wants to make seven movies, so even after this trilogy, we'll get more Batman films soon.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Good news!!!

I'd rather they start a new continuity rather than trying to continue Nolan's work, immitate his style and all that. I think that sooner or later they ll miss the point, go over the top either with realism or unrealism and generally **** it up. I just dont trust them. I'd rather they use the comics continuity as a loose guide to start a new continuity. That would certainly help them keep things in perspective because they'd have the canon as their guide.

In any case i think it beats having a Batman TV series. I dont think it would do the character justice.

 

[Gianakin_]

Definitely. It's a good opportunity to start over, with a new interpretation. And if they're serious about the 7 movies bit, I can't see why it can't follow the overall comic book continuity to a degree.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Warner Bros. wants to make seven movies

We already have seven movies. Batman '89, Batman Returds, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises.

 

[thewhyteman]

TDK's Joker wasn't all that violent? He cut grins onto people instead of using laughing gas and killed someone almost every time he was on screen. I think the only scene (other than the ending) where he didn't kill someone was at the party. And that definitely wasn't from a lack of trying... I mean, he did throw Rachel out of the window. And even then, he was having people killed in other parts of the city, with the judge's car bomb and the acid in the commissioner's drink. IMO, the Joker doesn't need to be turned into a monster from a horror movie. TDK's Joker is as close to that as he should get.

HAhah this is so true.

i think something with Batman and Robin first. After that, I wouldn't mind seeing a Batman Beyond film

I would love to see Batman Beyond.

 

[JStorm]

Way of the subject at hand, I'm sure; but back to the thread question:

I hope the go in a reboot direction after Nolan, and keep the tone of 'Bond' in mind. I don't mean reboot in the since of what Spidey is doing, but using the idea of 'everyone now knows the origin, now we can just tell stories,' hence my Bond reference. Jump ten years ahead, focus on a few comic-story-arcs. . I don't care.

I just think Batman could very easily be handled like the Bond movies: about every five-six years, get all new people and let said people tell a story, using BB as the origin and just telling stories.

 

[Grayson]

Way of the subject at hand, I'm sure; but back to the thread question:

I hope the go in a reboot direction after Nolan, and keep the tone of 'Bond' in mind. I don't mean reboot in the since of what Spidey is doing, but using the idea of 'everyone now knows the origin, now we can just tell stories,' hence my Bond reference. Jump ten years ahead, focus on a few comic-story-arcs. . I don't care.

I just think Batman could very easily be handled like the Bond movies: about every five-six years, get all new people and let said people tell a story, using BB as the origin and just telling stories.

This sounds like a good idea.
I could definitely see it happening.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

I like the idea of a Batman Beyond movie, just to change things up.

If they could get a grizzled veteran actor to play Bruce, that'd be awesome. Personally, I'd like to see Clint Eastwood play Old Man Bruce Wayne.

 

[JAK®]

Way of the subject at hand, I'm sure; but back to the thread question:

I hope the go in a reboot direction after Nolan, and keep the tone of 'Bond' in mind. I don't mean reboot in the since of what Spidey is doing, but using the idea of 'everyone now knows the origin, now we can just tell stories,' hence my Bond reference. Jump ten years ahead, focus on a few comic-story-arcs. . I don't care.

I just think Batman could very easily be handled like the Bond movies: about every five-six years, get all new people and let said people tell a story, using BB as the origin and just telling stories.

This way the tone can shift between comic-booky adventures, Frank Miller style grittiness, Burton style gothic fantasy and Nolan realism. Just like Bond shifts between camp and serious action.

 

[craigdbfan]

I would love to see Batman Beyond.

Same here.

If Snyder makes a good Superman I wouldn't mind him getting a hold of the project.

 

[Two-Face]

Really Batman Beyind live-action? I hope The Riddler, Mr Freeze, Ivy and others get their chance before they do JLA or Beyond.

 

[Sith Scotti]

Time to bring back Batman to the small screen while Supes gets the big screen . Id love an HBO show but Ill settle for CW if I must

 

[Mr. Earle]

We already have seven movies. Batman '89, Batman Returds, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises.

Definitely. It's a good opportunity to start over, with a new interpretation. And if they're serious about the 7 movies bit, I can't see why it can't follow the overall comic book continuity to a degree.

Yeah i mean the tone and style might vary but we have a certain story here. Bruce becomes batman, gets Dick in his third year, Jason, Tim, Knightfall, Earthquakes, blah, blah, blah.

I get that each director wants to do his thing but i want to see all the richness of the comics adapted on film. The Robins, the friendships, the villains, the mystical Gotham city, the crazy gadgets, the more over the top plots (i'm sick of the mob), etc.

They dont have to follow it page by page (another reason i dont want Snyder), just use it as a loose guide, like the way they keep retelling some stories over time. I mean Superman's origin has been retold numerous times but its pretty much the same at its core. Same with the GL movie following Secret Origins pretty closely. Do it like that, set down a path and a more comic booky style and choose directors to follow that the way it is with the Harry Potter films.

Way of the subject at hand, I'm sure; but back to the thread question:

I hope the go in a reboot direction after Nolan, and keep the tone of 'Bond' in mind. I don't mean reboot in the since of what Spidey is doing, but using the idea of 'everyone now knows the origin, now we can just tell stories,' hence my Bond reference. Jump ten years ahead, focus on a few comic-story-arcs. . I don't care.

I just think Batman could very easily be handled like the Bond movies: about every five-six years, get all new people and let said people tell a story, using BB as the origin and just telling stories.

I agree. People know his origin now. If they ever need to revisit it, just add a flashback, no need to go over that again even if they change continuity. His parents died, he became the night.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Really Batman Beyind live-action? I hope The Riddler, Mr Freeze, Ivy and others get their chance before they do JLA or Beyond.

Beyond is awesome but i agree with you that i'd rather have some movies about Bruce first. Beyond is mostly about him, so i'd rather they ve set things up first before they show him as an old man.

 

[JStorm]

This way the tone can shift between comic-booky adventures, Frank Miller style grittiness, Burton style gothic fantasy and Nolan realism. Just like Bond shifts between camp and serious action.

I agree. People know his origin now. If they ever need to revisit it, just add a flashback, no need to go over that again even if they change continuity. His parents died, he became the night.

Exactly. I think it would cool if after TDKR, we got to see a director take his or her take on Batman and it be closely indicative of Schumaker - just not the the flamboyant, childhood-memory extent of Adam West's version.

We got our origin story and Dark Knight, why not shift in a totally different direction, jump years, and give some other fans what he or she wanted/wants now: a story-arc of Dick coming into play; a lighter version of what Nolan did, but with more toys and ****; a REAL detective arc focusing on his calculating side.

The sky is the limit with this theory if WB keeps one rule in mind: don't get money hungry and **** it up for the sake of a dollar. The comics have a decent plan: different arc, different writer, different artist every six to twelve issues - same Batman - just slightly different visions.

 

[antsman41]

I. Nolan Trilogy (2005-2012 in real time)
Year 1: Batman Begins
Inspiration?: Year One, Tales of the Demon, and various comics
Carmine Falcone - Arkham
Scarecrow -
Ra's Al Ghul - deceased

Year 2: The Dark Knight
Inspiration: The Long Halloween, The Man Who Laughs, and various comics
Sal Maroni - deceased?
Scarecrow - Arkham
Joker - Arkham
Two-Face - deceased

Year 3: The Dark Knight Rises*
Inspiration?: Prey, Knightfall, Catwoman Year One, etc...
Black Mask?
Bane
Catwoman

II. (?) Trilogy
Year 4:
Inspiration?: Dark Victory, Robin: Year One, etc...

Year 5:

Year 6:

I want to see Batman-On-Film (not Jett) become the new James Bond. As we know, in the current continuity, we have gone from Mobs (Year One) to the rise of Freaks, then onto Robin and etc...

We can easliy still use Nolan's foundation and now slowly bring in Robin and more fantastical characters and villains without rebooting or destroying what has already been laid out.