Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 3

[Legion]

It was pretty obvious, at the end of X3, that Magnetos power loss was only temporary.

Charles also returned at the end of X3 in the body of the brain dead man.

Maybe not the best explanation but they did provide one.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Mangold's comments also suggest mutants are seen like sports stars now.

Check any minority sports star Twitter page or IG

They get plenty of hate still!


Mystique broke this down in X6.

"Their just nicer about it"

 

[marvelrobbins]

singer didn't want to get into In DOFP the mutant cure or how xavier came back.he and kinberg wrote the mid credit scene of the wolverine so they could say xavier is alive and then not mention it again in DOFP.

with mutant cure end of last stand suggested with magneto it wasn't as permeant as people thought it was.but singer just didn't want to deal with it.it's easy if you view OT to the wolverine to DOFP to say after mutant cure failed.anti-mutant forces through trask industrys worked to perfects entinles as final solution to mutants.In x2 Stryker said to wolverine someone will finish what i started.and project;WIdeawake was on
stryker's files In X2.

I am approaching logan as mainly stand alone film for jackman and stewart fans.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Check any minority sports star Twitter page or IG

They get plenty of hate still!


Mystique broke this down in X6.

"Their just nicer about it"

I thought you didn't like apocalypset:

X-Men should be team who does what they do for no public reward and many in public are like if it wasn't for you being around then such and such wouldn't be causing destrucon.

 

[X-Maniac]

Charles went into hiding after the "East Coast incident", which appears to have been

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an involuntary brain tremor that wiped out the X-Men and their Westchester neighbors.

I really don't like that.

It feels wrong - like so much about this franchise these days.

Spoiler

Is this what we're supposed to think when watching any other films featuring a younger Xavier - that he ends up being the one wiping them all out?

It's better than having Wolverine slash them all to shreds as in the Old Man Logan comic, but it just leaves such a cloud of doom and gloom over any film set before this one.

 

[X-Maniac]

What harm is there going to be with the two depictions of Caliban? The one featured in Apocalypse was barely a character and there's almost 50 years separating the two. Hell, if it really bothers you, you could just imagine the character played by Stephen Merchant is the other character's son or something.

We've already had to play the 'must be their child/relative or something' game with the two versions of Emma Frost, Moira MacTaggert, Bolivar Trask and so on.

It's bad planning and tunnel vision filmmaking.

Caliban in Logan looks more comic accurate than the XM:A version, that's about the only positive to come out of it.

Maybe they'll have another Caliban in X-Men: Supernova. Or how about another one in New Mutants? And yet another in Deadpool 2? I mean, as long as the film's good, no one cares, right?

 

[Herolee10]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not exactly sure on how I feel about the fact that this film pretty much devalues the ending and efforts that was put into making the future ending shown in DOFP a reality.

I mean what's the point of getting invested in any more X-Men characters that are to appear in films set before the events of this film if we know that it's going to end in death for MOS of them, again?

It's pretty much like how T3 devalued the sacrifice and ending shown in T2.

 

[Smilodon]

I thought you didn't like apocalypset:

X-Men should be team who does what they do for no public reward and many in public are like if it wasn't for you being around then such and such wouldn't be causing destrucon.

Who cares if he liked the film or not? His point still stands. The X-Men being known by the public (which happens in the comics) doesn't negate the fact that they are still people who hate and fear them? It also doesn't turn them into divas who protect people because of their celebrity status either? They do it because they're the X-Men and they have the power to "protect those without" as Charles says.

It's not that hard of a point to understand as Logan or Deadpool or even Magneto and Mystique in Apocalyse proves. People still will do many bad things mutants and the X-Men will still defend them. It'd actually be harder to explain why people are ignorant of mutants and what they've contributed considering how large scale their exploits have been since FC.

 

[JEM]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not exactly sure on how I feel about the fact that this film pretty much devalues the ending and efforts that was put into making the future ending shown in DOFP a reality.

I mean what's the point of getting invested in any more X-Men characters that are to appear in films set before the events of this film if we know that it's going to end in death for MOS of them, again?

It's pretty much like how T3 devalued the sacrifice and ending shown in T2.

IMO, the future isn't really set because of him.

I wonder if Cable travel back in time is linked with Logan plot.
Robert Liefeld and Shawn Madden said Cable is hottest casting in hollywood right now .

Beside, Digital Spy said Zander Rice 's trying to create his own mutants! "He's the puppet master behind Pierce and the Reavers, and has a much larger role in the sense that he's actually the kind of brilliant mind that is trying to grow mutants."

It 's kinda crazy, Richard E. Grant looks like Sinister and his motiviation are identical. But he plays Zander Rice .

 

[BoredGuy]

The X-Men should be known, most definitely, they just shouldn't be beloved. Maybe a small segment of the youth demo would think they were on fleek or some s**t, but the vast majority of adult humans should view them as dangerous/not human, if you want to stick to the themes that have been ever-present in x-men stories. but clearly they are taking a lot of liberties to tell their own Mad Max/Unforgiven movie starring Wolverine

IMO, the future isn't really set because of him.

I wonder if Cable travel back in time is linked with Logan plot.
Robert Liefeld and Shawn Madden said Cable is hottest casting in hollywood right now .

of course he did

it would be pretty funny though if they revealed Cable had been time-hopping and changing things and that's why x-continuity is so messed up

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Caliban in Logan looks more comic accurate than the XM:A version, that's about the only positive to come out of it.

Hopefully he makes it out the film alive. I think Pierce might kill him :-(

I thought you didn't like apocalypset:

I didn't like X6 very much at all, but an X-Men Comic Book in universe is a great idea.

Especially since they wear unstable molecules

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not exactly sure on how I feel about the fact that this film pretty much devalues the ending and efforts that was put into making the future ending shown in DOFP a reality.

Not me because now there's no excuse to not reboot Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, & Shadowcat now

It 's kinda crazy, Richard E. Grant looks like Sinister and his motiviation are identical. But he plays Zander Rice .

 

[JEM]

Maybe

Don't if it is legit or not

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Don't if it is legit or not

Joe Quesadilla drew these for Logan. The worst guy to ever come near X-Men comics in history


When I first saw these I thought Rogue's suit was blue/yellow but it's actually Green/Yellow with a hoodie!!

"Come on pretty boy make a girl feel welcome"

 

[BoredGuy]

it's weird that they had to draw up original stuff for the film
they own the film rights to the characters, but aren't allowed to show the real costumes or logo
yet these outfits are still close enough that you'd get sued if you published a comic like this

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

it's weird that they had to draw up original stuff for the film

Having 616 comic book issues would've been tacky IMO


This is much better and based on Fox-Men. It'd be disrespectful to CC to use Uncanny comics.


Matter fact the only bad thing is if we never get those X-men on an actual mission on screen. What a A+ Team I'd buy that comic! Its a better lineup than X-Men have had in years in the comics

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah I get ya on that, the rights issues are just so weird

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

yeah I get ya on that, the rights issues are just so weird

Take it as a positive Quesadilla is behind the scenes MCU Movie/TV guy and he helped out on Logan I take that as a good sign

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I actually really like those comic book costumes. Especially Colossus and Rogue.

 

[psylockolussus]

My God! Why are they doing this? It is such a tease! I want a X-Men film with Rogue, Colossus, Storm and Cyclops!

 

[Pennywise]

Gambit's on the top left side of the cover. Awesome!

 

[Roose Bolton]

We've already had to play the 'must be their child/relative or something' game with the two versions of Emma Frost, Moira MacTaggert, Bolivar Trask and so on.

It's bad planning and tunnel vision filmmaking.

Caliban in Logan looks more comic accurate than the XM:A version, that's about the only positive to come out of it.

Maybe they'll have another Caliban in X-Men: Supernova. Or how about another one in New Mutants? And yet another in Deadpool 2? I mean, as long as the film's good, no one cares, right?

That's pretty much how it is. You're getting anal over the continuity, but people don't go to the movies for that. They go to see a good film first and foremost, everything else is background noise.

 

[Smilodon]

I actually really like those comic book costumes. Especially Colossus and Rogue.

Colossus' costume is like a alternate color version of his Deadpool costume. Rogue's also a great reworking of her costume. Hopefully we'll see costumes like this in later X-Men films. We're on the right track with the end of Apocalypse.

Also there's no need for Sinister in this film anyways. That's disingenuous to the origins of X-23. Zander Rice/Donald Pierce/Reavers (and possibly Kimura) could be a group of incredibly compelling and threatening villains. Having Rice work for Essex Corp is enough connection to the universe at hand.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Also there's no need for Sinister in this film anyways.

Sinister in Logan would be upsetting.


Essex is Cyclops Arch that'd be the final **** you to Cyclops fans if Sinister was given to Logan movie. Personally prefer his storylines to Magneto.


"Just Keep Away From My Friends!"

"Go ahead and run Sinister! I'll be waiting for you"

 

[kguillou]

Even though Im beyond hyped for this, I now worry that this movie's story will kinda kill the buzz upon rewatches of Dofp or any of the past films for that matter. I feel like there has to be more to it and theyre not "Terminator 3" -ing DoFP.

Part of me feels like this should have been set in the far future where Logan naturally outlives his Xmen bretheren and hea torally alone. I think that would've added a lot of weight to the fact that this guy's "gift" is a curse because he is destined to be alone since he cannot die and ages very slowly.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I now worry that this movie's story will kinda kill the buzz upon rewatches of Dofp or any of the past films for that matter.

My fear is X-23 gets stuck in the crap 2029 future.


(I don't want to hear the stupid cable rescue time travel theory)