Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - Part 12

[Superherofan123]

Lol Tobias. Cavill was awesome in the role. Knocked it out of the park.

 

[Tobias]

hmmm......I think the earliest we'll see MOS2 is 2016.

Yeah. WB would be crazy to do MOS2 in 2015. Think Avengers 2 and Star Wars. No way they are going to go there.

WB has promising scripts fro WW and Flash and I'd be not totally surprised to see one or the other for 2016 and then MOS2 in 2017.

It looks like we won't know for sure until 2014. Unlike Marvel, WB can't decide things early on and seems to change direction a lot. When it comes to CBM films.

 

[Notrip]

Reboots with a movie before it that people disliked (and don't say people didn't like MOS cuz the numbers and audience ratings say otherwise) are never gonna be billion dollar films, evah!

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

hmmm......I think the earliest we'll see MOS2 is 2016.[/QUOT


WB/DC can't afford to wait that long. There will be roughly ten Marvel based properties hitting the silver screen by that time. The GA would lose interest in Superman and the supposed establishment of the DCU.

If they wait too long it'll suffer the same fate as STID. 4 yrs was to long for that, although that's how long TDKR took but that was coming off of two movies.

 

[Tra-El]

WB/DC can't afford to wait that long. There will be roughly ten Marvel based properties hitting the silver screen by that time. The GA would lose interest in Superman and the supposed establishment of the DCU.

I agree with this, no doubt. I say ball park is 2015, at the very troublesome latest 2016. They need to get the ball rollin and Man of Steel was the one who set the whereabouts of this universe. MOS2 needs to capitalize on building the world into something big, which means a cameo or acknowledgement of the team, which should spin-off into other single franchises, EXPLODING into the JL.

 

[Tobias]

If WB was going to do a 2015 MOS2 they would have announced it by now to capitalize on MOS. Nothing however.

WB will steer clear of 2015 because of the Marvel onslaught and Star Wars.

2016 could just as well be WW or Flash or a Batman reboot as MOS2.

Most likely date for MOS2 seems 2016 or 2017 given the silence right now from WB on a sequel.

 

[STARMAN]

You don't wait until 2017 to release a sequel.

 

[Hammer!]

The big trend in Hollywood right now is to grab profitable release dates ahead of time. WB's lack of commitment to this genre is giving all the highly sought after dates to other company's. Even if MOS2 opens in 2015 or 2016, it'll probably be stuck in a June/July date with heavy competition pre and post release, and make around the same amount of BO as this one.

 

[Tobias]

The big trend in Hollywood right now is to grab profitable release dates ahead of time. WB's lack of commitment to this genre is giving all the highly sought after dates to other company's. Even if MOS2 opens in 2015 or 2016, it'll probably be stuck in a June/July date with heavy competition pre and post release, and make around the same amount of BO as this one.

So true. WB seems non-committal on an MOS sequel. Unlike Marvel and Sony both of which announced sequels shortly after IM, Spidey, Thor and Cap first came out.

2015 is gone.

2016 is next but WW and Flash are as likely to get that as an MOS2.

I am thinking 2017 most likely for MOS2, though there is a chance it could be 2016.

Clearly, CBM films are not a WB priority.

 

[Tra-El]

If WB was going to do a 2015 MOS2 they would have announced it by now to capitalize on MOS. Nothing however.

Didn't you say in an earlier post that it took Iron Man and maybe Thor or Captain American "a month or 2" with the studio announcing its sequel? Man of Steel will hit 1 month solid TOMORROW and if we don't get anything, has another solid 30 days to get to the "....or 2.." part. SDCC is coming up, the glass half full type peeps are still holding hope for any type of announcement there. It's still possible with TASM getting like, 4 sequels announced and the return of RDJR for 2 more Avengers flicks. WB could ride MOS right into CC or a little tease..atleast.


2016, maybe if WB decides to wait it out for whatever purpose, however, 2017 is way, way too long. The Easter Eggs were set up in Man of Steel, like Wayne Enterprises. No way they are just going to introduce Batman, WW, Flash or Aqua Man out of NOWHERE until Man of Steel 2 sets the boundary for this universe. MOS2 is going to be the kickoff to the others first before all, can't wait until 2017 to do it.

 

[Migu-EL]

Not really. My prediction prior to release was 250 - 300 million domestic. Looks like it will end up at around 285 domestic plus change if lucky.

Bottom line MOS will not make the summer winner column at BOM and also not the summer loser list.

It performed OK but not great. No one knows but ending up a few 10 million north of 600 million is not what WB was hoping for is my guess.

Sequel talk is pretty muted now as in not a lot of stories. No more fast-tracking for 2015 (which is good). 2016 at the earliest.

I wrote a nice letter to WB and got a nice reply. They said my letter was intriguing and had been forwarded to Tjuihara. Don't know if I believe that.

They went on to complement my suggestions and added that if WB decides to make a sequel they can't use any of my ideas for legal reasons.

So WB is not in a rush and if 2016 is now the earliest date for a sequel then we may not get a formal announcement until 2014. WB may wait to see how the DVD does.

Won't make the summer winner's list??? Won't it be the 2nd highest selling movie this summer behind Iron Man???? How is that not on the winner's list?????

And didn't you claim a few months ago that WB would be happy with 600 WW and that's all it would need for a sequel? Now you are claiming that 600 WW plus is no good to WB???? Sounds like you have no idea what's going on.. lol

 

[Bruce Malone]

If they wait too long it'll suffer the same fate as STID. 4 yrs was to long for that, although that's how long TDKR took but that was coming off of two movies.

4 years is too long but 3 isn't that bad and can often result in a more polished better put together sequel. If Iron Man 2 had come out a year later like faverau wanted there's a chance it would have been a better pic.

We had 3 years between Begins and TDK and that seemed to work out more than fine.

 

[STARMAN]

There are plenty of dates still available for the summer of 2016.

 

[Tra-El]

And didn't you claim a few months ago that WB would be happy with 600 WW and that's all it would need for a sequel? Now you are claiming that 600 WW plus is no good to WB???? Sounds like you have no idea what's going on.. lol

I remember that. I think he said something about David Goyer mentioning something about $600 WW to get a sequel in an interview he heard. Of course, at that time, $600 WW was all skepticism in that time frame...

 

[Hammer!]

2016 is still a possibility, but Marvel and Sony have the desirable release dates. You have two MCU films in 2016, a X-Men film from Fox, Spider-Man film from Sony, at least three CGI Animation cash cows, a possible Star Wars spin-off, and the third Star Trek looking to capitalize on its 50th anniversary.

If WB doesn't announce anything officially at Comic Con, we might not see any DC properties turned into films for at least four years. Not good when the genre very might well be in its heyday and your top competitor for the market has never been stronger, cinematically at least.

 

[Tra-El]

4 years is too long but 3 isn't that bad and can often result in a more polished better put together sequel. If Iron Man 2 had come out a year later like faverau wanted there's a chance it would have been a better pic.

We had 3 years between Begins and TDK and that seemed to work out more than fine.

What's December 2015 looking like? MOS2 sequel late year '15, which could kick off the rebooted Bats or introduce WW or Flash in early-mid '16....

...JL '17.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Any word on MOS's BO in Brazil for Friday?

 

[Tobias]

Won't make the summer winner's list??? Won't it be the 2nd highest selling movie this summer behind Iron Man???? How is that not on the winner's list?????

And didn't you claim a few months ago that WB would be happy with 600 WW and that's all it would need for a sequel? Now you are claiming that 600 WW plus is no good to WB???? Sounds like you have no idea what's going on.. lol

Anything north of 600 million is good for WB.

MOS will end up around 640 million or so.

A sequel is likely but 2016 at the earliest. They would have announced something by now and no indication of an announcement at SDDC next week.

DM and MU will both do better at the WW box than MOS which will be the number 4 summer film. Unless PR surprises with huge OS numbers.

 

[Bruce Malone]

2016 is still a possibility, but Marvel and Sony have the desirable release dates. You have two MCU films in 2016, a X-Men film from Fox, Spider-Man film from Sony, at least three CGI cash cows, a possible Star Wars spin-off, and the third Star Trek looking to capitalize on its 50th anniversary.

If WB doesn't announce anything officially at Comic Con, we might not see any DC properties turned into films for at least four years. Not good when the genre very might well be in its heyday and your top competitor for the market has never been stronger, cinematically at least.

That's still B -team compared to the A-team material being released in 2015. I'd put MoS great success chances higher in 2016 than I would in 2015 and I highly doubt they will wait 4 years until we get to MoS 2.

 

[STARMAN]

And if you wait till 2017 they'll be another bunch of big summer movies you have to compete with. I can understand picking a better release date. But you can't expect to have the entire summer schedule to yourself either.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

What about mid July 2015? And before anyone screams its too soon the movie will suck none of us know what groundwork may already have been done behind the scenes with respect to script, set designs, story boarding etc.

 

[Tobias]

And if you wait till 2017 they'll be another bunch of big summer movies you have to compete with. I can understand picking a better release date. But you can't expect to have the entire summer schedule to yourself either.

True. But if WB was so gung-ho on CBM films and really happy with MOS they would have announced something by now. They haven't and as far as I know they have never formally announced a CBM film at SDDC.

I think folks need to realize CBM films are not a priority for WB.

2016 at the earliest and it could be 2017or later. WB does not seem anxious to do a sequel so far. As much as they claim they are happy with the results at the BO.

It is what it is.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Anything north of 600 million is good for WB.

MOS will end up around 640 million or so.

A sequel is likely but 2016 at the earliest. They would have announced something by now and no indication of an announcement at SDDC next week.

DM and MU will both do better at the WW box than MOS which will be the number 4 summer film. Unless PR surprises with huge OS numbers.

Wait didn't you say $620 million "tops" this morning?? Is that $640 million WW prediction your new "official" estimate?

 

[Bruce Malone]

Remember the rumors not to long ago about the sequel coming out next year? how did reputable sources even report something like that?

 

[STARMAN]

There's an open release date in the summer of 2025. WB should take it before Marvel does.