Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - Part 13

[Sup3rman81]

You do realise that is a minority opinion. A lot of people legitimately liked the Avengers because they thought it was a good movie.

Dark of the Moon was also a blockbuster. Where were all the glowing reviews and WOM for that one? Same with MOS. I actually liked both those movies but what you are saying is ridiculous.

Its my opinion!!!! I liked DOTM better than Avengers. DOTM made pretty damn good money and didn't need the critics riding it's coat tails. Don't get mad because not everyone loved Avengers

 

[spider-neil]

there's a rumor going around that JJ Abrams may drop out of the project.......

Oh please please please let this be true.
The new Star Trek movie is all flash and no substance or in more vulgar terms it's a cheap hoe with a nice fur coat and no knickers.

 

[JOE]

Do I have a fan?

 

[Sup3rman81]

I'm with Joe on pretty much everything.

And he's right about Marvel too. Their films may vary in quality but the handling of their shared film universe has been nothing short of spectacular. In fact their foundation is so strong at this point they can even afford a bad movie or two. As long as they keep churning out an Avengers crossover every 2-3 years, that's really all they need. Those are the ones that need to deliver. I thought Thor was formulaic and forgettable but guess what, I was excited to see him in The Avengers.

And forget it. If by some miracle they find a way to bridge the Spiderman movies into that universe? Wow. That would be something. WB really needs to learn a thing or two. And I'll tell you another thing. Snyder and Goyer aren't the answer.

I do not see Marvel doing an Avengers after phase 3. It will be the curtain call.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

its clesr to me that joss weldon is trying to knock all of dc plans
he heard of tye justice league movie so he wants to put quick silver in the next avengers only because of
the Flash speedster and speedster
and form what im hearing braniac wil be in mos2.
so hes using ultron A.I and A.I he wants everyone to say that dc copied but we all know that stan lee worked at dc before marvel ever got off the ground so really a lot of dc characters are copied at marvel

....

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Do I have a fan?

You are finally loved JOE ! Embrace it ! All you need is love !!

 

[Sup3rman81]

Oh yeah, because Loki was the most popular CB villain of all time before the Avengers. You know nothing about Ultron if you believe nobody can relate to him.

Do a poll and lets see how many of the GA know Ultron! They wont unless they are Ant Man fans as well. And news flash Marvel is re doing his origin so now Hank Pym isn't even the creator

 

[JOE]

Oh please please please let this be true.
The new Star Trek movie is all flash and no substance or in more vulgar terms it's a cheap hoe with a nice fur coat and no knickers.

Wow, I don't even know how to respond to this. You hate J.J that bad?

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Its my opinion!!!! I liked DOTM better than Avengers. DOTM made pretty damn good money and didn't need the critics riding it's coat tails. Don't get mad because not everyone loved Avengers

You are making it sound like TA is only popular because of hype and action. I'm arguing with that.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

I do not see Marvel doing an Avengers after phase 3. It will be the curtain call.

There will never be a curtain call. In 15 years MARVEL will reboot iron man ect. The cycle will continue in some form or another.

 

[Sup3rman81]

You are making it sound like TA is only popular because of hype and action. I'm arguing with that.

Even people I know who liked it said the story and acting were weak. The visuals and action was good and they loved seeing all of then on screen. That is what I have read from several people over the last two years. Weak villains and cheap laughs as well. Not just coming from me. But hey if you love it then more power

 

[Ms. Marvel]

....

My reaction exactly.

 

[ConanLives]

Lmao, and he says we should ignore MY posts... Oh boy!

I did say I was having fun...ignoring could be just drawing you out.

I got a reaction.

Peace, brother.

 

[JOE]

I do not see Marvel doing an Avengers after phase 3. It will be the curtain call.

It might be a curtain call for the current Avengers, but there's a lot more Avengers than IM, Cap, Thor and the Hulk.

 

[spider-neil]

Wow, I don't even know how to respond to this. You hate J.J that bad?

Lost is great. The Trek movies are entertaining but they refuse to linger on drama so I'm rushed from one action sequence to the next without a chance to catch my breath in the end I just get desensitised to action and frustrated by the drama because I given no time to soak it in. The thought of him doing this to SW is terrifying. Also Trek is supposed to be about IDEAS not full on action.

 

[JOE]

I did say I was having fun...ignoring could be just drawing you out.

I got a reaction.

Alright Conan, no harm done.

 

[Sup3rman81]

There will never be a curtain call. In 15 years MARVEL will reboot iron man ect. The cycle will continue in some form or another.

It will be so old by then. Marvel is pushing it down our throats. People will get burnt out after the phase 3. Phase 3 has newer characters to help with the others already out there. RDJ is IM for the Avengers but dont see him doing anymore solo films. Probably the same for Thor and CA.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Yea I mentioned this on other movie sites that Ultron will hurt A2 in that he is not a well known character to non comic readers

. The draw of the Avengers is their well liked heroes. Not the villain.

The GA won't relate to him easily at all.

The GA won't relate to the villain? Excellent.

The only selling point will be Vin Diesel if the rumor of him voicing Ultron is true

Vin Diesel having any role in Av 2 is debunked.

 

[Sup3rman81]

. The draw of the Avengers is their well liked heroes. Not the villain.

The GA won't relate to the villain? Excellent.

Vin Diesel having any role in Av 2 is debunked.

It is not debunked so nice try. They were just talking about him and Avengers 2 this morning.

 

[Marvin]

Yet Whedon's movie made more than double Goyer/Snyder's movie in the BO, not to mention had a 36% better rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

92% RT and 1.5B Box Office vs. 56% RT and 635M Box Office (and growing)

You're right Conan, Goyer/Snyder > Whedon.

Are you really going to use avengers numbers to prove a point about Whedon?
I figured you were joking but since it seems you are serious.
You do know that film was very much a cinematic event in spite of whomever marvel hired to direct it.?

As for the critical score, these same critics have been giving all sort of films high and low scores, seems kinda silly. I mean Returns and IM2...fair enough.
Not to mention the idea that Avengers didn't have to battle any preconceptions about what it's supposed to be..

For example, if someone were to reboot Citizen Kane right now, what are it's chances of getting a fair shake but older critics? Unless you can say %100, I'd avoid the issue entirely tbh.

But that's me, I love avengers and mos.
When goyer and snyder make their avengers equivalent and not their reboot to a beloved film, we'll see where the chips land in a more fair comparison.

Here's a biased point, Goyers Batman script(and superman one too) got green lit, whedon's not so much.
Think that proves a point? No.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It is not debunked so nice try. They were just talking about him and Avengers 2 this morning.

It is debunked. i suggest you make a visit to the Avengers thread right now.

 

[JOE]

Lost is great. The Trek movies are entertaining but they refuse to linger on drama so I'm rushed from one action sequence to the next without a chance to catch my breath in the end I just get desensitised to action and frustrated by the drama because I given no time to soak it in. The thought of him doing this to SW is terrifying. Also Trek is supposed to be about IDEAS not full on action.

The first season of Lost was great. Anything beyond that was a poor excuse for television and lazy writing. They had so much potential and spoiled it to go the easy science fictional route where there didn't need to be logic, just explain everything later on and with magic and powers.

But that's for another argument. Trek was done well I thought, but I respect your opinion. I know people who weren't fans of it, still a good flick nonetheless. SW needs to be put in delicate hands, it's one of the biggest franchises out there and needs to be dealt with properly.

 

[ConanLives]

Do I have a fan?

no. lol

 

[JOE]

Are you really going to use avengers numbers to prove a point about Whedon?
I figured you were joking but since it seems you are serious.
You do know that film was very much a cinematic event in spite of whomever marvel hired to direct it.?

As for the critical score, these same critics have been giving all sort of films high and low scores, seems kinda silly. I mean Returns and IM2...fair enough.
Not to mention the idea that Avengers didn't have to battle any preconceptions about what it's supposed to be..

For example, if someone were to reboot Citizen Kane right now, what are it's chances of getting a fair shake but older critics? Unless you can say %100, I'd avoid the issue entirely tbh.

But that's me, I love avengers and mos.
When goyer and snyder make their avengers equivalent and not their reboot to a beloved film, we'll see where the chips land in a more fair comparison.

Here's a biased point, Goyers Batman script(and superman one too) got green lit, whedon's not so much.
Think that proves a point? No.

Your point is my point. They're not even on the same level, so why compare them? What I wrote at the end of my post was his words along with this for a very good reason. Apples and oranges.

 

[Sup3rman81]

It is debunked. i suggest you make a visit to the Avengers thread right now.

Who cares about the Avengers thread? Diesel just said at comic con that he cant talk about it but there will be big news about him and Marvel at the end of the month. Go listen to some more people who have no clue