Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - Part 13

[ConnorKon-El]

Also that it turned out to be pretty medicore.....

I'm hoping the sequel is more fulfilling.

 

[MrMaooz]

Disney has too much staked that summer and having both Avengers 2 and Star Wars Episode VII steals thunder from one another. Those are films you put as the centerpiece of your lineup for the whole year. You don't put them in the same summer. Too much. One of the rumors was it would go to Christmas 2015. That makes more sense.

IDK, we'll see soon. I still think they'll be released the same Summer.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

and fight with Avatar 2 (if it comes out then)

Avatar 2 will not be out by then.

 

[epc11223]

it really depends when the release dates for star wars and avengers is. if avengers comes out in may, and star wars in july, i don't think they're in competition with one another. avengers will have already made it's money by then. i can see worlds finest setting a date for june again, but then maybe moving it to the winter. not sure if wb have any other tent pole movies coming out that year. i think it would do better in the winter, with only avatar being the competition. just doesn't seem quite as bloated. there really are a lot of movies coming out 2015!

 

[Marvin]

People can make all the predictions they want but when it comes to stating release dates with certainty...
nope.

 

[epc11223]

it should definitely be interesting to see how 2015 turns out. so many movies that have big fan bases. avengers, worlds finest, independence day, jurassic park, terminator, pirates of the carribean, star wars, etc. The profits should be insane!

 

[epc11223]

People can make all the predictions they want but when it comes to stating release dates with certainty...
nope.

definitely just speculation at this point; i think that's the fun of it.

 

[Skrilla31]

Look, the fact is people are going to cite the facts any way they please depending on their opinion of Man Of Steel. If you were a fan, then this announcement is evidence that WB was pleased with it. If you weren't a fan, then this announcement is evidence that WB might not have been pleased with it. Personally I lean more towards the latter.

To all the people that loved Man Of Steel. To all the people who don't believe this announcement is evidence that WB was displeased with it's performance. To all the people who are actually on board with the direction WB has ultimately decided to take, I'd like to ask you a few questions.

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Please answer honestly, and for now just answer with yes or no. We'll get into discussion later.


1. Prior to yesterday's announcement and after having seen Man Of Steel for yourself, was there ever a point in which you felt the next logical progression for that character and that story to take in the sequel involved Batman? (Yes/No)

2. Fans touted this new Man Of Steel series would act as this generation's definitive cinematic representation of the Superman mythos. Do you believe that Batman is essential to telling that mythos? (Yes/No)

3. Assume that Man Of Steel had grossed close to a billion dollars worldwide by the end of it's theatrical run. Let's say in the neighborhood of $900-$950 million. And let's also assume it was a lot less divisive. Let's say it was incredibly well received by critics and fans alike and it's RT rating sat around 88%-90%. Assuming all of that were true, does WB still go ahead and put Batman in the sequel? (Yes/No)

4. Do you think WB's decision to fast track their own DC shared universe is largely out of pressure put on them by Marvel and the absolute monster phenomenon that was The Avengers? (Yes/No)

5. Do you think that it's a wise move to try and reintroduce general audiences to a new cinematic Batman a mere three years after Nolan's enormously successful series has seen it's end? (Yes/No)


I'm curious as to how some of you answer those questions.

 

[Marvin]

Lot's of talk about the studio's state of mind and overall displeasure. I would propose people look at things from a role reversal scenario.

Say, WB had Worlds finest film break all the records in 2012 and they had a JLA film announced for 2015.

Marvel just releases IM1 and it's that big hit we remember(less than MOS). Would marvel then release the sequel to their highly sucessful Ironman film or would they release an avengers film for 2015? Seems like an absolute no brainer when it comes to studio agenda.
(let's never talk about what has happened to the buzz on the post avengers releases, starting with Ironman).

Logic and what makes a studio happy aren't always one in the same. If it wasn't for nolan, the TDK trilogy would have been wrought with cameos. Successful as it was.

 

[Andreth]

If those are questions to try to validate the idea that the studio isn't happy with the movie's numbers and are trying to bring Batman to save the Superman franchise then no thanks, I think that even if MoS had done much more at the box office they would still have announced a Superman/Batman movie, because they want to get the shared universe ball rolling ASAP.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

ID42 = Independence Day 2

Oh GAWD I was afraid of this. Ruining a great unique movie with a pointless sequel. I wouldn't be surprised if the come up with Titanic 2: The Rose Years.

 

[Skrilla31]

Logic and what makes a studio happy aren't always one in the same.

The fact remains that this decision is largely financially motivated as opposed to being creatively motivated. That's the problem.

You only get one chance to have Superman and Batman on screen together for the first time. I'd rather they didn't rush it out of desperation. I guess some people would rather have it done period... rather than have it done right.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

If those are questions to try to validate the idea that the studio isn't happy with the movie's numbers and are trying to bring Batman to save the Superman franchise then no thanks, I think that even if MoS had done much more at the box office they would still have announced a Superman/Batman movie, because they want to get the shared universe ball rolling ASAP.

Yep.
You either start throwing in the other characters of the DC universe or you get eaten alive.
This is what happens when you start your universe 2nd. They don't have time to make solo sequels, they are focused on fast-tracking the Dc universe to get to a JLA film ASAP and make a crap load of money.
Do I agree with WB's decision ?
Hmmm, I would have preferred another solo Superman sequel with no other characters, but at the same time WB doesn't have the luxury to wait any longer.
Go big or go home.

 

[Skrilla31]

If those are questions to try to validate the idea that the studio isn't happy with the movie's numbers and are trying to bring Batman to save the Superman franchise then no thanks, I think that even if MoS had done much more at the box office they would still have announced a Superman/Batman movie, because they want to get the shared universe ball rolling ASAP.

So you admit they're rushing it.

 

[Marvin]

Anyone know what else WB has on slate for 2015?
not terminator.

 

[iham32]

so glad that 300 million domestic is a lock for MOS! I was starting to lose faith but after reading the dozens of posters screaming that it is a guarantee, I am now again hopeful.

 

[J.Howlett]

Where are we with Man of Steel's box office numbers?

 

[ConnorKon-El]

The fact remains that this decision is largely financially motivated as opposed to being creatively motivated. That's the problem.

You only get one chance to have Superman and Batman on screen together for the first time. I'd rather they didn't rush it out of desperation. I guess some people would rather have it done period... rather than have it done right.

Of course it is. Wb is a film studio, with their biggest goal to make a profit on every film they finance.

 

[MrMaooz]

Anyone know what else WB has on slate for 2015?
not terminator.

Just MOS2. They need as much money as they can so including Batman was a business decision.

 

[STARMAN]

I think 285 dom. 635 WW.

 

[Andreth]

So you admit they're rushing it.

Absolutely, but not because they're disappointed with Man of Steel's box office performance and critic reception as you're suggesting. They just want to capitalize on the opportunity in the immediate future. They don't wanna wait any longer to start the shared universe.

 

[Marvin]

The fact remains that this decision is largely financially motivated as opposed to being creatively motivated. That's the problem.

You only get one chance to have Superman and Batman on screen together for the first time. I'd rather they didn't rush it out of desperation. I guess some people would rather have it done period... rather than have it done right.

"look" I get this, however you sounded off on how pleased the studio may or may not have been. I'm just hoping you can understand that this has nothing to do with how happy they were. Outside of that they think this origin and it's producers(and star) are plenty viable.

As for what's "right" some of my favorite stories involve these two characters together. I would even argue that Avengers is the second best ironman film out. Sure is the best hulk one.
How many people actually think Avengers was a better time than any of nolan's film?
What's right? I don't know I'll judge it after it's all said and done.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Absolutely, but not because they're disappointed with Man of Steel's box office performance and critic reception as you're suggesting. They just want to capitalize on the opportunity in the immediate future. They don't wanna wait any longer.

WB GONNA BE ROLLING IN DAT DOUGH.

 

[STARMAN]

There's always seems to be two extreme positions.

MOS was successful but WB wanted a game-changer in 2015. Both financially and creatively, Superman/Batman does that.

 

[Marvin]

WB GONNA BE ROLLING IN DAT DOUGH.

If I was running WB I would have organized this sort of thing at the con.