Mass Effect 3

[Balthus Dire]

I dunno...I'm taking it with a grain of salt. As much as I want it to be hints, it just seems like more of the "use your imagination!" garbage.

Either way it's kind of annoying without a straight answer.

 

[Matt]

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Obviously no one knows for sure, since Bioware is pretty mum about everything right now.

That said, there IS only one ending where you even get a chance to see Shepard "alive." The Control and Synthesis endings seem to make it clear that he dies. Is he actually alive in the Destroy ending? Who the hell knows...

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My problem with this is, I don't want my Shepard to have to commit a genocide of the very creatures he just gave free will to (the Geth) in order to live. So the only ending in which Shep can live is one in which he is a mass murderer. That's kind of bull ****.

 

[X Knight]

Like I said, at this point they need to either announce something or shut the **** up because all that they are accomplishing with the ominous tweets and posts is creating more ill will between them and their fans.

agreed.

I mean....they keep saying........"let more people have the chance to play the game" before we can talk about it more freely.

but don't they also realize that they are potentially alienating newcomers to the series who are now hesistant to purchase the game ( like me )?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

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My problem with this is, I don't want my Shepard to have to commit a genocide of the very creatures he just gave free will to (the Geth) in order to live. So the only ending in which Shep can live is one in which he is a mass murderer. That's kind of bull ****.

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That's what pissed me off about the Destroy ending. I had saved the geth and brokered a fragile and mutually beneficial peace between them and the quarians, yet I get to the end and my only choices are to destroy the geth along with the Reapers or kill myself? It's weird. I really wish there were some option to just shut down or hinder the Reapers to give the organics a fighting chance, not an all-or-nothing, kill all synthetics or screw yourself or the organics over ultimatum.

 

[iamlegend]

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My problem with this is, I don't want my Shepard to have to commit a genocide of the very creatures he just gave free will to (the Geth) in order to live. So the only ending in which Shep can live is one in which he is a mass murderer. That's kind of bull ****.

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Well you'll have to take that up with Bioware... why they chose to keep Shep alive after just one of the endings (and the one that ends in a big damn explosion at that... ) remains unknown.

And is Shepard a mass murderer if he choose the "Renegade" option? What he did here was little different from what you do at the end of Arrival, IMO. It's war, if you want to guarantee the permanent destruction of the Reapers... sacrifices may have to be made. I understand why it's the Renegade option, for that reason, but I wouldn't say it's an immoral choice.

 

[X Knight]

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My problem with this is, I don't want my Shepard to have to commit a genocide of the very creatures he just gave free will to (the Geth) in order to live. So the only ending in which Shep can live is one in which he is a mass murderer. That's kind of bull ****.

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My Paragon Shep would feel the same way, too.

call me old fashioned..........but I like happy "Disney" endings.........

 

[iamlegend]

agreed.

I mean....they keep saying........"let more people have the chance to play the game" before we can talk about it more freely.

but don't they also realize that they are potentially alienating newcomers to the series who are now hesistant to purchase the game ( like me )?

Meh, I can give them credit for wanting to wait... There are countless fans of the series that aren't even close to completing it, and many more who won't even be buying the game for another few weeks. You don't want stories explaining the ending popping up all over the 'Net.

 

[Balthus Dire]

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There should've been a true Mass Effect style option where you can paragon/renegade your way into convincing the Catalyst that their logic is completely stupid.

I seriously can't understand why they wouldn't do that.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Meh, I can give them credit for wanting to wait... There are countless fans of the series that aren't even close to completing it, and many more who won't even be buying the game for another few weeks. You don't want stories explaining the ending popping up all over the 'Net.

It's not so much the waiting that's annoying; it's the tweet updates and stuff that make it seem like they're trolling, giving the fans hope that the game is not actually over.

I mean, if that IS the case and it's true, then sure troll all you like. But seriously if it's not and they're just being cute it's beyond annoying and they need to ****.

 

[iamlegend]

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There should've been a true Mass Effect style option where you can paragon/renegade your way into convincing the Catalyst that their logic is completely stupid.

I seriously can't understand why they wouldn't do that.

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Well because it'd create an entirely different ending scenario, which they obviously had no interest in writing into the game.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

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I almost wish the Catalyst had just been a VI that had been given a simple task and had just taken everything completely out of hand and this whole thing was just some glitch that had gone to genocidal levels.

I don't know - maybe that just would have appealed to me.

 

[iamlegend]

It's not so much the waiting that's annoying; it's the tweet updates and stuff that make it seem like they're trolling, giving the fans hope that the game is not actually over.

I mean, if that IS the case and it's true, then sure troll all you like. But seriously if it's not and they're just being cute it's beyond annoying and they need to ****.

While some of the comments I see from the staff are snarky and trolling, I honestly don't think many of them are meant to be. I mean what's she supposed to do? Just act like she's not seeing anything? She's getting swamped with angry Tweets and is trying to remain relatively civil and nice about it.

 

[iamlegend]

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I almost wish the Catalyst had just been a VI that had been given a simple task and had just taken everything completely out of hand and this whole thing was just some glitch that had gone to genocidal levels.

I don't know - maybe that just would have appealed to me.

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I'm going to guess that if the big bad for the entirety of Mass Effect being a confused VI would probably have caused even more of an uproar than we already have.

Hey guys! You know those indestructible monsters you've been fighting for three games? Their leader is a glitchy processing robot.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

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Oh I know - just thinkin out loud here.

 

[X Knight]

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There should've been a true Mass Effect style option where you can paragon/renegade your way into convincing the Catalyst that their logic is completely stupid.

I seriously can't understand why they wouldn't do that.

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I know.

Based on what I've been reading, you can unite the Quarians and Geth and end their war. You can encourage Joker and Edi to hook up. 2 of your squadmates are synthetics, Legion and Edi.

So, when that creepy star-child tells you the cycle is unavoidable, you should have had the option to challenge him and call his logic flawed and bull****!! Based on everything that you have seen and done throughout your journey, you know it is possible for organics and synthetics to coexist.

of course, that's when Shep would snap out of the indoctrination/hallucination attempt, wake up back on the streets of London, get up and dust herself off, then proceed to give Harbinger a final a** kicking!! by doing what all proper Vanguards do.........CHARGING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM IN THE FACE!!!!

but alas.......

 

[iamlegend]

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Oh I know - just thinkin out loud here.

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Fair. I mean, what the Catalyst wound up being didn't bother me too, too much, simply because the creators had set a night impossible task for themselves in that regard. How CAN you explain the creation and mobilization of an entire army of indestructible doomsday squids that show up and kill everyone every 50k years?

There are probably better ways to have done it... but that wasn't the biggest flaw by far.

 

[Reek]

maybe bioware decided to do another trilogy with shepard. i still havent seen the ending..but maybe they didnt finish it how people expected because there is another trilogy coming on next gen consoles.

i actually think that might be true. in this day and age a 6 game series with this type of depth, going across 2 generations of consoles could be ****ing cool.

 

[Matt]

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Well you'll have to take that up with Bioware... why they chose to keep Shep alive after just one of the endings (and the one that ends in a big damn explosion at that... ) remains unknown.

And is Shepard a mass murderer if he choose the "Renegade" option? What he did here was little different from what you do at the end of Arrival, IMO. It's war, if you want to guarantee the permanent destruction of the Reapers... sacrifices may have to be made. I understand why it's the Renegade option, for that reason, but I wouldn't say it's an immoral choice.

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There is a massive difference between wiping out one colony (which would die when the Reapers arrive anyway) and wiping out an entire race by pressing a button.

Meh, I can give them credit for wanting to wait... There are countless fans of the series that aren't even close to completing it, and many more who won't even be buying the game for another few weeks. You don't want stories explaining the ending popping up all over the 'Net.

Then shut up about it. Wait if you must, but why tweet ominous little hints?

It's not so much the waiting that's annoying; it's the tweet updates and stuff that make it seem like they're trolling, giving the fans hope that the game is not actually over.

I mean, if that IS the case and it's true, then sure troll all you like. But seriously if it's not and they're just being cute it's beyond annoying and they need to ****.

Exactly.

While some of the comments I see from the staff are snarky and trolling, I honestly don't think many of them are meant to be. I mean what's she supposed to do? Just act like she's not seeing anything? She's getting swamped with angry Tweets and is trying to remain relatively civil and nice about it.

Rule 1 of public relations: If you have nothing to say, then say nothing. Yes. She should just keep quiet until she has something substantial to add and if she really feels the need to talk, then do so without dropping ominous little hints and implications.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

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Fair. I mean, what the Catalyst wound up being didn't bother me too, too much, simply because the creators had set a night impossible task for themselves in that regard. How CAN you explain the creation and mobilization of an entire army of indestructible doomsday squids that show up and kill everyone every 50k years?

There are probably better ways to have done it... but that wasn't the biggest flaw by far.

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I agree - what the catalyst was didn't bother me. They probably should have had it assume the images of Shepard/Anderson/Illusive Man and shift through them - I think that would have alleviated a lot of this star child problem.

It also should have made what its motives and logic was clearer because while I got it a lot of people didn't evidently and that's up to the writing staff not to let happen.

Also Shepard should have had way more dialogue options during this sequence and had the option to totally argue back at the Catalyst based on what he had done prior.

 

[X Knight]

yeah.....just say......."sorry. can't comment at this time."

or just disable your twitter feed.....or whatever.

 

[Matt]

By the way, was the significance of London explained in the game?

[blackout]Through the game Anderson kept saying that something big is happening in London, the Reapers were gathering in London, he's taking his resistance forces to London, etc....was it ever explained WHY London was relevant?[/blackout]

 

[iamlegend]

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There is a massive difference between wiping out one colony (which would die when the Reapers arrive anyway) and wiping out an entire race by pressing a button.

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And if the Reapers ever come back, they'd just wipe out the entire galaxy. Destroying the Reapers guarantees that they aren't returning.

Granted, there's no one saying they return in the Control ending... but as long as they exist... there's a chance. Destroy eliminates that chance. At cost? Of course. But hard decisions rarely come without that.

Either choice is a viable one.

 

[iamlegend]

By the way, was the significance of London explained in the game?

[blackout]Through the game Anderson kept saying that something big is happening in London, the Reapers were gathering in London, he's taking his resistance forces to London, etc....was it ever explained WHY London was relevant?[/blackout]

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I can't remember a final reason ever being mentioned. I honestly just think they wanted to have the final battle be in London, so they wrote that in. Why? I have no idea. They really wanted to feature Big Ben?

 

[X Knight]

By the way, was the significance of London explained in the game?

[blackout]Through the game Anderson kept saying that something big is happening in London, the Reapers were gathering in London, he's taking his resistance forces to London, etc....was it ever explained WHY London was relevant?[/blackout]

and speaking of London, I remember in the very first teaser trailer of ME 3, there was some sniper-dude in Big Ben. Did they ever explain who that guy was? Was he even in the game?

I think we were all speculating he was going to be a new squadmate ( possibly Vega )..........but that didn't seem to turn out that way......

was he just some random soldier?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

He's in the game.