MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 2

[kedrell]

Between the Box-Office, toys, endorsements and all other branding money that Disney is going to make off the MCU, they really should just throw 2 Billion at Sony and just buy Spidey outright.

They're so busy right now that if they wait they might not even need to spend nearly that much and still get him back. Same with the FF.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Kang would be off the chain. Only Doom would be more awesome.

 

[marcvader]

Bring a classic Kirby 1960's F4 to the fray.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Would they just drop the 616 MCU and go full Ultimate in Phase 4?

 

[Lilbaz]

They're not doing anything to further it, lets be honest with ourselves there.

The whole cinematic universe has furthered cinema. Studios are not just looking at One off films or sequels anymore.

 

[roach]

The whole cinematic universe has furthered cinema. Studios are not just looking at One off films or sequels anymore.

um...studios never were looking for one of films...studios looking for tentpole movies was going on a lot longer than recently

 

[Dark Raven]

The MCU schedule parallels the DC one in a few ways.

1. Captain America: Civil War = Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
2. Captain Marvel = Wonder Woman
3. Captain Marvel = Shazam
4. Thor: Raganok = Aquaman
5. Black Panther = Cyborg
6. Black Panther = Aquaman
7. Avengers: Infinity War Parts 1 & 2 = Justice League Parts 1 & 2
8. Captain Marvel = Green Lantern
9. GOTG2 = Green Lantern

 

[SuperBatman]

By then F4 will be back home, so:

Well if they are back by then they could always go for a skrull invasion.

 

[Lilbaz]

um...studios never were looking for one of films...studios looking for tentpole movies was going on a lot longer than recently

Can't think of any studio making individual films with the intention of joining them up from the very beginning. While also telling the audience their intention.

We may have had a crossover. Hammer Horror did it, Jason vs Freddy but nothing like this.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Can't think of any studio making individual films with the intention of joining them up from the very beginning. While also telling the audience their intention.

We may have had a crossover. Hammer Horror did it, Jason vs Freddy but nothing like this.

Universal did it. Not on this scale, but they were crossing over their monster movies all the time.

 

[kedrell]

^I think with them joining their properties together was more of an afterthought.

 

[Flint Marko]

^I think with them joining their properties together was more of an afterthought.

Not to mention a complete gimmick, a la Freddy v jason.
I hate when people try to compare those crossovers to what Marvel has done. It's apples and oranges at best.

 

[kedrell]

They're not doing anything to further it, lets be honest with ourselves there.

Depends on you're definition.

 

[Flint Marko]

Between the Box-Office, toys, endorsements and all other branding money that Disney is going to make off the MCU, they really should just throw 2 Billion at Sony and just buy Spidey outright.

 

[kedrell]

I'm sort of glad they don't have X-Men, Spidey or the FF(and Namor as well I guess) because even now they're not at the point where they could reasonably do justice to all of them at once. Maybe in 10 years they'll be able to but they still need to grow to that level. In order to bring the Marvel Universe fully to cinemas under one umbrella would probably require the making of 5 giant blockbuster tent pole films every year and possibly a couple of smaller ones on the side on top of the TV/Netflix stuff. Hopefully they can get to that point but it's still a ways off.

Not having the rights basically allows them to grow at a measured pace so they don't get all distorted and looking like some out-of-whack monstrosity.

 

[Roose Bolton]

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2014/08/talking-to-myself-about-marvel-and.html

This was pretty interesting, and frankly makes a lot of sense for Hulk's weird status in the MCU.

 

[kedrell]

Sure does. Thanks.

 

[kedrell]

I'm confident that in the fullness of time Disney will get it all back from every other studio. Then it'll just be them vs WB.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Hmm interesting theory

 

[kedrell]

As for Fox, I've worked out a crude model to see how profitable their X-Men franchise is to them and they make roughly around $70m in profit every year from it on average. Not all that much when talking about billions of dollars. I think more than being a superhuge cash cow what the X-Men franchise offers FOX is dependability. They can count of a modest profit so long as they continue.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Clip from AoS:

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[Silver Surfer]

Hypothetically speaking if Disney offered Fox a blank cheque for Wolvie and Friends, how many zeros do you think Fox will want filled in? 5 Billion? 7 Billion? ....10 Billion?

 

[Gr0oT]

So Ant-Man is the end of Phase 2, not Age of Ultron?
All I can say is the Phase 3 boxset is going to be glorious.

 

[kedrell]

Hypothetically speaking if Disney offered Fox a blank cheque for Wolvie and Friends, how many zeros do you think Fox will want filled in? 5 Billion? 7 Billion? ....10 Billion?

Hell no. Disney didn't even pay that much for Marvel Studios and that's worth waaaay more than just the X-Men franchise.

Maybe $1 billion, $2 billion at the uttermost but I really don't see how it's worth that much with only a $70m a year profit history. Granted 2014 was their best year to date but one single film doesn't equal a trend. Let them make 3/4 of a billion WW for their next couple of films and then we can talk about a higher $ tag.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wonder how long it took Brolin in that Infinity Gauntlet clip?