MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 3

[The_Manhunter]

Excited to hear the news! For the 2020 films, I think GOTG 3 and Spider-man 2 are near certainties. Not sure about the 3rd one. My guesses for the 3rd one are The Incredible Hulk 2 or a new property (FF?!).

Slot 1: GOTG 3
Slot 2: SM2
Slot 3: ???

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah I could see them doing a Surfer movie based off Slott and Allred's current series

but I'm guessing sequels for those 2020 movies

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unrelated question: What do we think happened to the Aether after the explosion at the Collector's?? I'm sure it's been discussed here, but with the stones all coalescing it'll be interesting to see what happened with the "Reality Stone"

 

[MbJ]

Fox wouldn't announce they relinquished the FF. They'd let Marvel announce it at their leisure. Lionsgate never announced that they relinquished Punisher or Man-Thing, same with New Line & Blade, and same with Sony & Ghost Rider.

The reason I said "even in discussions" is because I'm sure something big like that would be making the rumor mills if it was actually being discussed.

People remember and this last one left a huge stench. I think if they get the property back they're more likely to use the villains like Doom, Kang, Galactus or make a Silver Surfer movie than they are to start of with another F4.

This is my logic as well. Remember, Feige's official stance on why they didn't do new Ghost Rider, Punisher, or Daredevil movies is because of the bad reputation those films had garnered, which is why they were regulated to lower risk (but still immensely entertaining) ventures like Netflix shows.

 

[Eddie]

...official stances are often misleading. The Daredevil reboot went into development immediately after reversion (they were interested in casting Charlie Cox prior to even securing the rights). The Goddard pitch for the reboot was also originally a movie. It shifted to Netflix largely because Marvel simply doesn't want to do low budget movies.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Unless they're content to just sit on the property as they did for a number of years before hand.

But either way, if they had agreed to share the rights or sell them back outright, I'm sure we'd have heard something by now. The FF back at Marvel would be huge news, even in discussion phases.

The problem for Fox is that they CAN'T just sit on it. In seven years, they either have to lose millions making another one or let it go for nothing.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Can't shake the image of Feige madly operating the controls of a big bank of levers, dials and buttons shouting "I need more content! Give me MOAR!"

 

[spideymouse]

Ok, looking at it now, it makes sense to toss AM&W in between both IF's because of the Quantum realm. And as someone said above, guess it makes sense to have CM still between both IFs for the same reason. I would rather they put Ant-Man in March rather than Captain Marvel, but maybe CM will hype people for the second part of IF.

2016
Civil War - May
Dr. Strange - November

2017-
GOTG 2 - May
SpiderMan - July
Thor - November

2018-
BP - Feb
IW p1 - May
Ant-Man and Wasp - July

2019
Captain Marvel - March
IW P2 - May
InHumans - July

It was strange to me that they are avoiding November dates for 2018 and 2019 in favor of early spring dates for BP and CM, until I looked at the larger Disney slate and the overall upcoming releases in those time frames.

Disney has two live-action Untitled Disney Fairy Tale movies (the 2018 one pushed Captain Marvel back) being released in those time frames. As November has become the kick-off to the holiday season what May has been to the summer movie season, it makes sense that Disney would relegate their live-action fairy tale projects to those tent poles while relying on Marvel's strong brand to take the measured risks of releasing BP and CM in February and March.

Add to this the rumor that The Batman might come out in November 2018, and the very likely chance that Deadpool and BvS next year will prove how strong late winter/early spring blockbusters can perform, I think I understand these moves much better.

Still, it's weird to see these trios of dates all squished together within 4-5 month periods instead of spread out across the calendar year. At least it goes back to being spread out in 2020.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Happy that Ant-man is getting a sequel (with the title I called months ago) and that Black Panther has been moved up.

Now if only one of those three movies was F4. I'd assume a Spider-man sequel is in there, too.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I'm hoping Runaways is one of the mystery films.

 

[Flint Marko]

This is great. Can't wait to find out what these three films are.

 

[Drz]

Let's hope Sinister Six is part of it!

 

[spideymouse]

But Spider-Man is still on the Phase 3 slate so Spider-Man 2 the 3rd is still a possibility. Can't wait for Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Agreed, but this was from a specifically Disney announcement. Not sure whether Sony's agreement with Disney allows one studio to announce the release date of what technically is another studio's property and production.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm hoping Runaways is one of the mystery films.

Let's hope Sinister Six is part of it!

 

[Eddie]

Sinister Six probably is not part of it. And I'm not hoping for it, either.

 

[MbJ]

Runaways is such a no brainer at this point.

 

[Iceman]

Happy that Ant-man is getting a sequel (with the title I called months ago) and that Black Panther has been moved up.

Now if only one of those three movies was F4. I'd assume a Spider-man sequel is in there, too.

I'm glad Wasp made it into the title rather than it being Ant Man 2.

 

[Quasimod0]

Yay an Ant-Man sequel! I guess its pretty much confirmed now that we'll see Wasp in Infinity War.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Glad Marvel thought enough of Ant-Man to give it a sequel even if does mean that Captain Marvel gets moved to 2019. I'm also happy that Black Panther will get his solo movie before the start of IW.

 

[spideymouse]

Glad Marvel thought enough of Ant-Man to give it a sequel even if does mean that Captain Marvel gets moved to 2019. I'm also happy that Black Panther will get his solo movie before the start of IW.

Wonder if this decision gets made were Feige still under Perlmutter.

 

[Zoom]

Very excited about the Ant Man sequel, personally I hope one of the 2020 movies is a Hulk sequel.

This!

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I'm glad Wasp made it into the title rather than it being Ant Man 2.

Me too.

 

[Dasher10]

I feel like there's still room for two more Phase 3 films since Phase 3 is lacking release dates in Q4 2018 and 2019. I'm surprised that they're doing Q1 films. Since Q4 courts the Christmas and Thanksgiving markets, I don't feel like well get a Ghost Rider film since doing one right requires an R rating. If these films happen, I wouldn't be surprised if the late 2018 film is a Hulk film and the late 2019 slot is for Spider-Man. Again, assuming that they happen. The only reason why these dates are empty is since marvel won't be footing the bill to produce and it'll be the job of Universal and Sony, respectively.

The 2020 films are presumably Iron Man 4, Black Widow and something else. I'm not sure what though, probably Fantastic Four if Marvel can get the rights back, if they can't get the FF back, I'm hoping it's Eternals as that's the last big property not owned by Fox that can't be done on a TV budget (save Hawkeye, Elektra, Moon Knight, Blade, She-Hulk and Punisher's solo adventures for TV, please). IMO, they need to end Phase 3 with one last ride for Downey before he hangs up the armor. They owe him that much.

 

[Slick]

Glad BP got moved up.

 

[Mike5575]

I'm hoping one of those untitled movies is a Black Widow film.

I'm really glad we'll be getting more of Hope VanDyne as the Wasp, but I am sort of bummed they decided to push back Captain Marvel. It's kind of bitter sweet for me.

What I don't understand is why they moved BP before IF part one. Wouldn't it have made more sense to stick it on Captain Marvel's November date? Or put AntMan and The Wasp on Captain Marvels date? Although I do find it interesting that Captain Marvel is now set to come out a month before DC's Shazam.

Black Panther got moved to Black History Month and Captain Marvel's scheduled release is on International Women's Day. I'm starting to think this wasn't a coincidence. Still, I don't like it. The fact remains, Marvel's only phase 3 film to get pushed back twice is the one starring a woman.

 

[First Avenger]

'Ant-Man and Wasp'. So simple,yet so cool.