New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 1

[psylockolussus]

Its not a coincidence at all.

 

[Fincher]

Assuming for the sake of argument that everything slugzilla said is true, that comedic take doesn't sound good to me at all. So, whatever else might be the case, thumbs up to Josh Boone for killing that thing.

 

[TheVileOne]

Slugzilla, no offense to you, but if there is any truth at all to the version you wanted to see...I'm also sort of glad it never came to be. Then again, I'm not sure if the horror version they made will be just as bad if not worse. Time will tell.

 

[psylockolussus]

The original concept sounds better to me. That sounds like more New Mutants to me than the horror flick we are gonna get in 2019. Like the X-Men ensembles are already serious and gloomy, and you want New Mutants to be darker and spooky? New Mutants from that outline seems more careless, inexperienced and there's the obvious X-Men connection.sounds like the comics to me.

 

[Yowza]

For the record, I posted about this situation, including the reshoots & the reason for them several days before anyone had heard or reported anything. Then people doubted me and called me a liar. Then it was announced that New Mutants had been delayed for ten months. One hell of a coincidence isn't it....

It's good to know where your coming from on this and (while I didn't see your posts in the past as traffic can be limited to certain number of people posting on each thread who often see things within certain lines) I appreciate the information even if not totally what I wanted to hear at least I have a general idea where your coming from on it and glad posters seem to be inquiring more so these last couple pgs.

 

[slugzilla]

Assuming for the sake of argument that everything slugzilla said is true, that comedic take doesn't sound good to me at all. So, whatever else might be the case, thumbs up to Josh Boone for killing that thing.

We were aiming for an R rating, & the movie was far from a comedy. The action was brutal. Blood & guts and all that. Creatures from Limbo were released in an attempt to stop the sentinels, they just started killing random people instead so the mutants had to rip them apart too. Sentinels were destroying homes, demolishing buildings, and literally stepping on the oblivious humans who were blindly cheering the sentinels on simply because they were indoctrinated by the govt, media, etc, to the point where they were blinded by their hatred of mutants. One scene had two neighbors standing next to each other talking about the mutants being on the loose, they hear what sounds like a jet, then splat! Neighbor A is splattered on the ground when a sentinel lands on top of him. Neighbor B yells out something along the lines of "Yeah go get those ****in muties!" While on the run they ran into the friends of humanity or the purifiers, I can't remember which, and all the mutants have different ideas about how to deal with them. Illyanna starts slicing them to pieces, Dani freezes in horror at the sight of Rahne tearing them apart like a rabid monster, Roberto fights them, but he's unable to control his strength and they go flying through the air, get punched into bloodied pancakes on a wall, he punches a heavyset guy and gets his hand stuck inside the guys stomach, Sam starts off fighting them without his powers, gets overwhelmed, and then cannonballs through a huge crowd of them. Meanwhile this is all being filmed by the press for propaganda purposes. The sentinels are seen in the distance and Dani snaps out of her state of shock and makes the remainder of the bigots see their worst nightmares come true which was a pretty horrific sequence.

My point in all of this is, the early "outline" was by no means a comedy. Yes it was ****ing hilarious, but it was mostly a dark humor. It was Fun, light hearted, violent, profane, hilarious, action packed, and dark all at the same time. We believed it would leave both the general audience and the hardcore fans wanting more.

 

[SumT]

I know I'll get attacked by some here but I do wonder if Boone being a huge fan of this property initially pitched this as something more like the New Mutants comics and then the powers that be turned it into a non-X-Men related horror story set in an asylum. It's just a curiosity of mine.

was reading previous pages and just read this comment of yours.
you know what? thats exactly what Ive been thinking these past days, and imo, this is exactly what happened. something tells me Boone original treatment was pretty faithful, but reading his words from an interview last year, to me it was like reading a Kinberg interview, saying something like "we're doing something different" "we want to explore new genres, just like Deadpool and Logan did". To me, it sounded too much like how Kinberg uses to sell these movies now, so Im very suspicious about this whole thing. And ironically, this delay 99% came from its own producers, not Boone.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Why didn't they just stick closer to the source materiel for New Mutants? Have it connect to the present day X-Men and have them be students of Xavier instead of them being in a mental institution. Were they that hellbent on remaking Nightmare on Elm Street 3?

 

[1627523]

Can u tell us what happens in the movie u saw at the test screening. Was there Demon Bear or Magik's armor? Also what are some specific gripes u had with the movie like the plot and characters? How was the pacing? Do u see limbo? How closely did it adapt the Demon Bear saga.

 

[psylockolussus]

Why didn't they just stick closer to the source materiel for New Mutants? Have it connect to the present day X-Men and have them be students of Xavier instead of them being in a mental institution. Were they that hellbent on remaking Nightmare on Elm Street 3?

Because Deadpool was Comedy, Logan was western and now the New Mutants is Horror.... Fox trying to do different genres in cb films just for the sake of it. The first two though just stayed true to the comics and wasn't a reinvention. Had they done that to the New Mutants, it could have been better.

 

[kevork89]

Wait everyone’s believing this “insider knowledge”?

So the user posted two days before the announcement of the delay that there’s a delay happening. That’s not much to go by really. Anyone could’ve heard this in the media. And I really doubt someone who has worked on a film or in a film company will come in and criticize the director and the movie to a bunch of people on a forum. Come on now has this ever happened before?

 

[Ordet]

The most ridicolous part is that his treatment is a:

R-rated movie with probabily the biggest budget ever for a R-movie.

Than Boone came and said "No Fox, i don't wanna all that money, gimme very few. And I wanna make an horror. But please don't let me to be totally free with the R-rating, i wanna a pg-13"

and sure Slugzilla can say movie is very bad, but he cannot say nothing about the actual story?

(and even if he is really what he said, another things the seems strange is that all 'zilla said that the movie was bad. ok. but the only reason he gave for that is that the movie was different from his treatment. No words about Boone's style, easthetic, pacing, acting...)

 

[kevork89]

The most ridicolous part is that his treatment is a:

R-rated movie with probabily the biggest budget ever for a R-movie.

Than Boone came and said "No Fox, i don't wanna all that money, gimme very few. And I wanna make an horror. But please don't let me to be totally free with the R-rating, i wanna a pg-13"

and sure Slugzilla can say movie is very bad, but he cannot say nothing about the actual story?

(and even if he is really what he said, another things the seems strange is that all 'zilla said that the movie was bad. ok. but the only reason he gave for that is that the movie was different from his treatment. No words about Boone's style, easthetic, pacing, acting...)

Right.

If this was the treatment Fox was going with then they had a correct to the comic adaptation ready then Boone who’s supposedly a big fan of New Mutants came along and changed it. Yeah right. You all say how **** Fox is with X-Men then why would you believe they would’ve had a treatment for New Mutants ready like this?

Very doubtful. Even if it was a bit different and Boone changed it there’s no way Fox were gonna go with a big budget, sentinels, mansion destroying etc all just for New Mutants.

 

[Abudefduf]

For the record, I posted about this situation, including the reshoots & the reason for them several days before anyone had heard or reported anything. Then people doubted me and called me a liar. Then it was announced that New Mutants had been delayed for ten months. One hell of a coincidence isn't it....

You know something that we don't, that much is clear. Doesn't mean that I have to believe everything you say though, now does it? I'm sorry but that "early draft" sounds completely ridiculous.

 

[slugzilla]

Well I think I'm going to have to hang up my leaking boots for a bit, as I think I may have shared way too much about my experience working on this movie and I'm actually starting to get a bit nervous about some people's jobs. I Hope everyone enjoyed getting an inside look from my point of view, but I've got to stop for now. I might be back in a little while if I can find a certain something I have buried away somewhere safe and drafty. (After the heat hopefully dies down).
Peace out for now.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Well I think I'm going to have to hang up my leaking boots for a bit, as I think I may have shared way too much about my experience working on this movie and I'm actually starting to get a bit nervous about some people's jobs. I Hope everyone enjoyed getting an inside look from my point of view, but I've got to stop for now. I might be back in a little while if I can find a certain something I have buried away somewhere safe and drafty. (After the heat hopefully dies down).
Peace out for now.

Hope things work out okay. Thanks for your insight. Good luck and stay safe.

 

[DACrowe]

I'll say I believe he has some inside knowledge. But giving a full synopsis of a rejected draft of a movie still in (expansive) production that you apparently are still employed on to some degree? That is interesting.

For what it is worth, I do believe slug has some inside knowledge of what is going on inside Fox, even if I find that plot synopsis very dubious.

 

[SumT]

I think some have to take into account that he is talking about a treatment before Boone came on board, so that version easily could be 6 years old, from another writer that maybe Lauren, Bryan or Kinberg brought on board time ago, but Fox didnt greenlight that script.

I doubt slug is meaning that this was the script that was going to be filmed last year. Lets see it as another example just like Wadlow X-Force, that never went into production.

 

[Fincher]

slugzilla did catering for a script that was never greenlit? And this catering was carried into the production of the film that was made, and then he was shown the "finished" version?

 

[TheVileOne]

If Slugzilla truly did any type of work on the film, there's a good chance he was not allowed to leak any of the stuff he did reveal on the forums and probably signed agreements as such.

 

[psylockolussus]

Wait everyone’s believing this “insider knowledge”?

Yes.

And if he was posting positive scoops, you would have believed it then, right? Its fine if you don't want to believe it and you want convince to yourself that new Mutants would turn out good. But its not the first time this forum had a scooper than turned out to be right.

 

[SumT]

this forum has more scoopers than most of us will ever know

 

[psylockolussus]

Yes they were scoops from posters here for Dofp, Fantastic Four and Apocalypse. I don't think any of those were proven to be fake.

Right.

If this was the treatment Fox was going with then they had a correct to the comic adaptation ready then Boone who’s supposedly a big fan of New Mutants came along and changed it. Yeah right. You all say how **** Fox is with X-Men then why would you believe they would’ve had a treatment for New Mutants ready like this?

Very doubtful. Even if it was a bit different and Boone changed it there’s no way Fox were gonna go with a big budget, sentinels, mansion destroying etc all just for New Mutants.

It was a treatment and Fox changed it because it was much more expensive according to Slugzilla. Anyway, we have 13 months left. If its bad, then we could back to this page and remind each other about this. Anyway, the delay only proves Slugzilla's scoop that the film is in trouble.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Because Deadpool was Comedy, Logan was western and now the New Mutants is Horror.... Fox trying to do different genres in cb films just for the sake of it. The first two though just stayed true to the comics and wasn't a reinvention. Had they done that to the New Mutants, it could have been better.

I wish someone could tell FOX that its possible for a single movie to dab in many different genre tropes at the same time. A New Mutants movie could've had horror elements, but that doesn't mean they had to remake NOES Part 3 the Dream Warriors from the eighties and put the kids in an asylum just to do horror stuff.

Captain America Winter Soldier is a "political thriller" but that didn't stop it from having comic booky stuff like Zola's essence being placed in a 1970's computer.

Its okay to go comic book with comic book movies. We have the technology to not make it look horrible in live action now. I don't understand why FOX still has an early 2000's mentality regarding superhero movies.

 

[DACrowe]

If Slugzilla truly did any type of work on the film, there's a good chance he was not allowed to leak any of the stuff he did reveal on the forums and probably signed agreements as such.

Indeed. Especially if he was deeply involved enough to the point to see how projects were going in development. That is the level of producers, writers, executives, and maybe some storyboard and concept artists.