Official discussion on why "Nice Guys" have a hard time getting the girl.

[Eggyman]

heh . . . yeah, personally I don't use the "ooh gurl, let me buy you a DRANK" approach; but for those (suckers) that do, I think that's kind of the point!

Mhmm. I've bought girls drinks, but not as an ice-breaker. It always strikes me as needy. PAYING for some of their time when if they were actually interested in what stood before them, you could have their time for free.

Buying someone a drink is a social gesture of kindness, not a contract of purchase.

I'm not saying all guys who buy women drinks are that way, but some... well, they're just asking for their pockets to be emptied.

 

[terry78]

If you're going to bars to meet chicks, you're looking for the quick booty, not a relationship though. So in essence, they are buying some ass. If you're looking for someone to settle down with, you go to a brightly lit joint where you have to actually be clever.

 

[Eggyman]

If you're going to bars to meet chicks, you're looking for the quick booty, not a relationship though. So in essence, they are buying some ass. If you're looking for someone to settle down with, you go to a brightly lit joint where you have to actually be clever.

Fair point, but if it's just about getting your end away then surely it'll have more to do with looks/attraction rather than who can order drinks the quickest.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm a funny good looking guy who can be very charismatic without overdoing it. But I'm not a dude who scr*ws girls left and right. Nor am I super crazy; I'm very laid back.

As what my friend says, Im the type of a guy that girls want to take home to meet their parents. That's fine but it's a LITTLE HARDER to date only because you have less of a variety of girls to choose from. Some girls wanna have fun (wink wink), some want to settle down, etc.

 

[Erzengel]

Regardless if you're nice or a jerk, dating is still a numbers games. You ask out enough girls you are bound to get someone who says yes.

 

[Octoberist]

of course.

I think the NICE GUY is also like a vibe that girls get. So a "JERK *****e" might strike a chord faster than the Nice Guy because they are more aggressive while the Nice Guy is more passive.

But you can't change a NICE GUY and I wouldn't change for the world. There's too many *****es out there.

 

[DV8]

Mhmm. I've bought girls drinks, but not as an ice-breaker. It always strikes me as needy. PAYING for some of their time when if they were actually interested in what stood before them, you could have their time for free.

Buying someone a drink is a social gesture of kindness, not a contract of purchase.

I'm not saying all guys who buy women drinks are that way, but some... well, they're just asking for their pockets to be emptied.

I hear you Eggy . . . word up to buying cool chicks drinks!

 

[Erzengel]

And slipping something in them.

*high five*

 

[Nirvana]

This thread has gone through many stages...it is pretty impressive.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

of course.

I think the NICE GUY is also like a vibe that girls get. So a "JERK *****e" might strike a chord faster than the Nice Guy because they are more aggressive while the Nice Guy is more passive.

But you can't change a NICE GUY and I wouldn't change for the world. There's too many *****es out there.

There's the operative word right there, passive. You can be aggresive without being a jerk/*****e. You'll strike out every time if you don't swing the bat.

 

[DV8]

And slipping something in them.

*high five*

oh yeah! *creepy smile*

of course.

I think the NICE GUY is also like a vibe that girls get. So a "JERK *****e" might strike a chord faster than the Nice Guy because they are more aggressive while the Nice Guy is more passive.

But you can't change a NICE GUY and I wouldn't change for the world. There's too many *****es out there.

There's a middleground between those two extremes though . . . it's not the nice guy; it's not the *****e, but it's the COOL guy that you want to be . . .

Regardless if you're nice or a jerk, dating is still a numbers games. You ask out enough girls you are bound to get someone who says yes.

This is something you say often, and it always rings equally true . . . you can't win the lottery if you only play once a month . . .

you have to realize there are about 40 ***** hovering around any given attractive girl in a week's time . . . you have to be the better option . . .

 

[DV8]

Also, I rarely ever MEET a girl at a bar or club that I actually bone . . . I do, however frequently meet UP with girls that I already know at the bar or club, and sometimes bone . . .

 

[Doctor Jones]

I just don't get how women just think that when men are nice, that means they can't stand up for themselves?

 

[Eggyman]

I just don't get how women just think that when men are nice, that means they can't stand up for themselves?

I think it's that word 'nice' being misused again. Nice guys can stand up for themselves. 'Pushovers'... not so much.

 

[Logan's Runt]

I think it's that word 'nice' being misused again. Nice guys can stand up for themselves. 'Pushovers'... not so much.

It just happens to usually be the 'pushovers' who whine 'but I'm a NICE GUY!' loudly.

The real nice guys don't whine when they don't land the girl. They pick it up and move on.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I think it's that word 'nice' being misused again. Nice guys can stand up for themselves. 'Pushovers'... not so much.

You're right. I mean Michael J. Fox stood up to Biff in BTTF and look how small he was compared. Hell, he even grabbed his collar and had his fist drawn back! t:

 

[Octoberist]

It just happens to usually be the 'pushovers' who whine 'but I'm a NICE GUY!' loudly.

The real nice guys don't whine when they don't land the girl. They pick it up and move on.

The Pushovers are the dudes who don't 'get it'; completely oblivious on what they're doing, so in turn, they look like schmucks.

 

[PyroChamber]

It just happens to usually be the 'pushovers' who whine 'but I'm a NICE GUY!' loudly.

The real nice guys don't whine when they don't land the girl. They pick it up and move on.

Or they call her *****.

 

[Eggyman]

It just happens to usually be the 'pushovers' who whine 'but I'm a NICE GUY!' loudly.

The real nice guys don't whine when they don't land the girl. They pick it up and move on.

Bang on the money as always, Runty.

You're right. I mean Michael J. Fox stood up to Biff in BTTF and look how small he was compared. Hell, he even grabbed his collar and had his fist drawn back! t:

Yup. being nice has nothing to do with being soft. Look at spoons! One of the nicest guys on the Hype, but would I f*** with him? Not a chance

 

[knowsbleed]

Foreal. He'd probably take you cokes.

 

[JaD]

So, does anyone else here find it ironic that JAL's current avatar is of Comedian shooting a pregnant hooker?

Spoiler

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Regardless if you're nice or a jerk, dating is still a numbers games. You ask out enough girls you are bound to get someone who says yes.

That's my problem.

Nearly every girl I have ever asked out has SAID yes, but when I try to make those plans official, they either do whatever it takes to get out of it, or just ignore me when I try to call.

The worst is this girl now that I know. When I began working with her like back in August, I asked her if she wanted to go out to grab lunch after work. She said yes. By the time work was over, and we were getting ready to go out, she backed out, but said that she wanted my number so that we could make it up.

Well I never heard from her, and everytime I'd see her at work, she'd make an excuse as to why.

I basically kept giving her attention until, well, I'm not going to lie. I'm still giving her attention. She has me wrapped around her finger, and it's pretty sad on my part. I know what's going on, but I still can't just stop it.

Everytime I try to talk to her, she always says it's not me, that she's interested and wants to hang out, but is always just busy. I've pretty much told her that I know that she isn't interested in me, and if that's the case, that's cool, but everytime I see her she always defends herself saying it's not me that she is still interested and still wants to go out, but she's just "too busy".

*sigh*

 

[ShadowBoxing]

And slipping something in them.

*high five*

Ghostrider87 sometimes roofies chicks and then it's high fives all.night.long

 

[Erzengel]

That's my problem.

Nearly every girl I have ever asked out has SAID yes, but when I try to make those plans official, they either do whatever it takes to get out of it, or just ignore me when I try to call.

The worst is this girl now that I know. When I began working with her like back in August, I asked her if she wanted to go out to grab lunch after work. She said yes. By the time work was over, and we were getting ready to go out, she backed out, but said that she wanted my number so that we could make it up.

Well I never heard from her, and everytime I'd see her at work, she'd make an excuse as to why.

I basically kept giving her attention until, well, I'm not going to lie. I'm still giving her attention. She has me wrapped around her finger, and it's pretty sad on my part. I know what's going on, but I still can't just stop it.

Everytime I try to talk to her, she always says it's not me, that she's interested and wants to hang out, but is always just busy. I've pretty much told her that I know that she isn't interested in me, and if that's the case, that's cool, but everytime I see her she always defends herself saying it's not me that she is still interested and still wants to go out, but she's just "too busy".

*sigh*

Then maybe you are asking out the wrong types of girls. For each girl that strings you along, you should be asking out another 9 girls on top of that one.

 

[piccolo]

I think there's a bit of a disconnect between womens definition of a nice guy and a man's definition. In my experience, a guy who men think is a nice guy can easily be viewed as a "jerk" in a woman's opinion.Also re: bars, it doesn't seem like there are many pickups going on in bars these days, at least not as much as in the past.