Official The Ultimates Thread

[Venom160]

Actually I change my opinion. I now really like Ultimates 3, but in a different way than Ultimates 1 & 2. I really like the art and such, and I think it'll all eventually make sense in #5. I think Wasp is a good leader for the team.

I may like the vol. aswell if they explain the blatant continuity **** ups instead of just saying "Oh takes place further in time than all the other titles".

 

[absonic93]

let's hope so. I'm just sad cause i can't find a copy of Ultimates 3 #4 online or in stores. (i know what happens though for the most part)

 

[Venom160]

let's hope so. I'm just sad cause i can't find a copy of Ultimates 3 #4 online or in stores. (i know what happens though for the most part)

hmm have you tried milehighcomics.com ?

 

[absonic93]

hmmm, seems good except for the whole 'money' issue lol

 

[Venom160]

lol yeah that would definitely hinder ya.

 

[absonic93]

yeah, it does in its ways....

 

[TromaFreak64]

has anyone read the new issue yet? Is it still schedule to come out tomorrow???

 

[alexdunn]

I read it. It was pretty good. A bit better that the previous issues. Action packed. They did explain some continuity issues except the Pyro coverup was just plain dumb.

 

[Venom160]

I read it. It was pretty good. A bit better that the previous issues. Action packed. They did explain some continuity issues except the Pyro coverup was just plain dumb.

please tell me it was just [BLACKOUT]Scarlet Witch's powers ****ing wit reality[/BLACKOUT].

 

[kguillou]

Someone please spill the beans on the conclusion, i'm dying to know Loeb's explanation for all this mess.

 

[alexdunn]

Urggg the more I think about it the dumber it sounds...

Spoiler

- Pym's creation, Ultron, fell in love with Scarlett Witch.
- He follows her around all the time and he finnally kills her because he relized their love would never be.( why he used a dna bullet or how? I do not know)
- Cap is Black Panther(big surprise)
- Ultron makes a bunch of Ultron Ultimates to replace real Ultimates.
- Valkerie kills Mastermind and cuts off Pyro's hands. Pyro was like "No wait! I'm actually good! I was with the X-Men" *SLICE!
- Venom turns out to be an Ultron that was made wrong or somthing so he turned to goo.
- Hawkeye kills Sabertooth and is all pissed and shoots at Magneto to kill him but Quicksilver jumps in front of the bullet and takes it.
- Magneto leaves and is all sad and stuff and he takes Quicksilver back to his lair and is really pissed at humanity and wants to take revenge(forshadowing anyone?)
- A tear comes out of Pietro's eye (alive?)
- Cuts to Doctor Doom talking about his new plan "Ultimatum"

Did I miss anything important?

 

[Blader5489]

Sounds like a cluster**** of rushed explanations.

On the bright side, at least Loeb has the decency to clean up most of this mess, like Kirkman did with his run on Ultimate X-Men.

 

[kguillou]

Thanks dude, and wow, that sounds...well i dont know what to make of it. At least there's some sort of explanation of why the Ultimates were acting the way they were. I must admit that [BLACKOUT]Doom [/BLACKOUT]being a part of Ultimatum has me a lil interested.

 

[alexdunn]

Did not every comic store get it?

 

[Mogwai]

Sacred&Profane posted this over at Ultimate Central:

To save you money:

Spoiler

OMG ROBOTS!

Via Ultron's convenient expository recording, we're basically shown what was going on the entire time. Venom was just a robot (thank god). Tony is captive!

Ultron and his Ultronimates go to fight Magneto, in hopes of starting a Human/Mutant war. Why Ultron chooses to go with his Ultronimates (given the fact that we later learn they don't work when he's dead) Is unexplained.

Don't worry! We're also not given any reasoning behind Cap's masquerading as Black Panther!

Okay! So! The Real Ultimates + Wolverine + Ka-zar + Pym, Janet, and Tony (who snuck on with Ultron) fight against the Ultronimates in the savage land and, in the worst one liner ever, Pym rips off Ultron's head.

Ultron to Wasp, as he's trying to kill her:
"I'd rather not kill you jan, my experiementation on your DNA has only begun. Besides.... you're like a mother to me."

Pym: "Then I guess that makes me the MOTHER****ER!"

After this, the Ultronimates are deactivated. The Ultimates are talking to Magneto, evading possible war, when Hawkeye fires a metal arrow at him. Instead of stopping this arrow with his control over metal, Quicksilver jumps infront of Magneto and takes the shot. He dies. Magneto is pissed and runs off.

The final three pages:
Magneto crying over his dead children...swearing the Ultimate Universe will pay THE ULTIMATE PRICE.
Wasp telling Cap to loosen up on Hank- and that if he as a problem with Giant Man on the team, he can FIND A NEW TEAM!!!!!
And...
The grand finale...
A metallic hand is holding Ultron's severed head, dialog prattling on about how Pym could've NEVER made Ultron alone, and that all of what just happened...with the war plan, with the killing of scarlet witch...was all the plan of...

DOCTOR DOOM!

Duhn Duhn Duhn!

Making fun of this book is like making fun of a ******ed younger cousin. It's so easy, but at the same time, he can't help it.
I feel so dirty.

 

[alexdunn]

As I said...the more I think about it...the dumber it is. I actually kinda almost liked it the first read. Yucky...

 

[kguillou]

I cannot believe Hank Pym actually said that. WTF is wrong with Jeph Loeb???

 

[percoset]

This was awful, nothing but an advertising gimmick for Ultimatum. Loeb, seriously, wtf?

 

[kguillou]

Well at least we know what we can expect from Ultimatum...there goes all my optimism for the event.

 

[alexdunn]

Who's writing Ultimatum?

 

[Joker]

Who's writing Ultimatum?

Jeph "That Makes Me The Mother F**ker" Loeb

 

[kguillou]

And Finch is drawing it.

 

[WolfCypher]

Aww, really? I thought I read Bendis was writing Ultimatum. I heard wrong?

Well, I do like always...read it with neutral expectations, then complain afterwards.

 

[absonic93]

I heard it was a group sorta thing. They'd all be collaborating

 

[Blader5489]

Nope, it's Loeb's brainchild and he's doing all the writing himself.