Days of Future Past "Only have one more new character" in sequel says Vaughn

They already didn't with the cameos in this film.

And I couldn't really care less anyway. They were already loose with continuity. They're clearly not letting continuity stop them from telling the story they want to say. Only people on these forums analyzing the numbers will get in a big hubbub over it, just like only we make a big deal over Xavier not building Cerebro with Magneto or the two not meeting when Xavier is 17.
 
I know they hadnt respect it.

and I hate that.
 
The problems with those two unfortunate lines pale in comparison to bringing in characters 20 years too early imo
 
The problems with those two unfortunate lines pale in comparison to bringing in characters 20 years too early imo

The whole entire plot of X2 is based on Magneto knowing the schematics of Cerebro because he helped Xavier build it. And at the end the film becomes about how he's able to rearrange it for the final threat because he knows how it works. I think that's way more important then some characters having their ages fudged around.
 
The whole entire plot of X2 is based on Magneto knowing the schematics of Cerebro because he helped Xavier build it. And at the end the film becomes about how he's able to rearrange it for the final threat because he knows how it works. I think that's way more important then some characters having their ages fudged around.

There are about three or four decades between First Class and the existing trilogy, plenty of time for collaboration on a new Cerebro, for Mystique to become cold-blooded and deadly, for Xavier to become bald, etc.

I don't know why you keep blathering on about it, as if the entire history had to be in place by the end of First Class when there are decades of story left to tell yet. Chill out, man...
 
The whole entire plot of X2 is based on Magneto knowing the schematics of Cerebro because he helped Xavier build it. And at the end the film becomes about how he's able to rearrange it for the final threat because he knows how it works. I think that's way more important then some characters having their ages fudged around.


He moves a few plates around and that does it?? Never brought that scene. Seemed to be nothing but show. Xavier is already connected to every mind when he uses it so it shouldn't be a need for some metal slabs to be rearranged.
 
He moves a few plates around and that does it?? Never brought that scene. Seemed to be nothing but show. Xavier is already connected to every mind when he uses it so it shouldn't be a need for some metal slabs to be rearranged.

I think the scene looked great with Magneto rearranging Cerebro, and I don't think it would have looked any better or more effective by showing internal circuits rearranging themselves or whatever the machine was made of.
 
back on topic...

if Vaughn and Singer finally decide to include only one new x-men...

would you preffer a girl or a boy?
 
back on topic...

if Vaughn and Singer finally decide to include only one new x-men...

would you preffer a girl or a boy?

Prefer a girl if she's powerful. I have a feeling the new character will be villain though.
 
There are about three or four decades between First Class and the existing trilogy, plenty of time for collaboration on a new Cerebro, for Mystique to become cold-blooded and deadly, for Xavier to become bald, etc.

Bingo. Point for X-Maniac...they have a lot of time to show the journey of these characters and how they become the ones we saw in X1.
 
Bring in Jean Grey...a slightly overpowered Jean Grey struggling with controlling her powers...giving hints to the Phoenix force and Xavier ultimately instituting the mental blocks to confine her powers.

She could definitely pose a threat to Magneto and maybe we could see her face off with Emma telepathically...(which could be the start of Emma's fascination with the Phoenix force).

Just a suggestion...i dunno...i have a biased opinion because Jean Grey/Phoenix is my favorite female marvel character.
 
A girl. Maybe then Vaughn can redeem himself, the female characters were definetely underused in First Class.
A new student that could relate to Xavier (I'd say Jean would be fantastic), because I really don't want another movie focusing on Magneto. The next should be a film focusing on the X-Men.
 
I disliked the Jean origin sequence from X-Men: TLS so much that if they are sticking with all the films as continuity I would rather not see how much Charles effs up her mind. Those scenes in TLS really bothered me. I don't think the Prof. X of X1, X2, or FC would do that to someone he cared about. He would teach them and help them to control their powers. Right?

So, how would they intro Jean Grey...would they fly in the face of X3 and do a different origin, or try to stay with conitinuity as much as possible? Either way, kinda stinky.
 
There are about three or four decades between First Class and the existing trilogy, plenty of time for collaboration on a new Cerebro, for Mystique to become cold-blooded and deadly, for Xavier to become bald, etc.

I don't know why you keep blathering on about it, as if the entire history had to be in place by the end of First Class when there are decades of story left to tell yet. Chill out, man...

Chill out? What makes you assume I'm not chill? How have I kept blathering about it? How many posts have I even made about it? I've never EVER complained about Raven's change (I think it's very believable she'd change in 40 years). Are you responding to me or what? :huh:

I'm assuming you're responding in a general sense and sticking me in with the group that complains about that stuff. Which is funny, because I wasn't even complaining. I'm just saying I don't care. They didn't let previous continuity stop them from telling the story they wanted to tell. You can argue Cerebro can be brought up in the sequel but the fact they didn't feel the need to incorporate it into this film is very telling for me. This could very easily be a stand alone film for one thing, depending on how the box office turns out. And either way, it says a lot about whether or not Singer and co. is as determined to hit all those key scenes according to the trilogy like the fans are. I'm sure if fans wrote this film, Xavier and Erik creating Cerebro would be on the very short list of info to stick in from the original trilogy, along with Xavier meeting Erik when he was 17.

And I think it's that lack of attention to details when they don't flow with the story they're trying to tell is what's making a lot of people consider this a preboot in the first place. If it strictly hit key notes expected from the original trilogy's history, there wouldn't be as much of a question.
 
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I don't think the Prof. X of X1, X2, or FC would do that to someone he cared about. He would teach them and help them to control their powers. Right?
I certainly wouldn't like to see it. Is it so hard to keep Charles Xavier as being this morally irreprensible man? I don't care if people find him boring, and from First Class we know that it doesn't have to be necessarily boring. Charles in FC had the same amount of petulance and cockiness, warmth and goodness

So, how would they intro Jean Grey...would they fly in the face of X3 and do a different origin, or try to stay with conitinuity as much as possible? Either way, kinda stinky.
I say reboot. There are so many things that are different in First Class already; I really don't mind it.
 
They already didn't with the cameos in this film.

the only obvious cameo was storms... simply because of the white hair.. Cykes was not obvious (if it was intended to be) ive seen the film twice, and his glasses were not red.
 
Does anyone have a good reason why Cyclops should not be the new character? Besides continuity with the original movies. He should be a main character in an X-men movie...at least once. Is that too much to ask?

continuity is the only good reason anyone needs.

and cyclops happens to be my favorite x-man. but im not willing to **** up continuity just to see him.
 
I'm assuming you're responding in a general sense and sticking me in with the group that complains about that stuff. Which is funny, because I wasn't even complaining. I'm just saying I don't care. They didn't let previous continuity stop them from telling the story they wanted to tell. You can argue Cerebro can be brought up in the sequel but the fact they didn't feel the need to incorporate it into this film is very telling for me. This could very easily be a stand alone film for one thing, depending on how the box office turns out. And either way, it says a lot about whether or not Singer and co. is as determined to hit all those key scenes according to the trilogy like the fans are.

Vaughn made it clear that continuity only mattered if it felt natural.

He said in one interview: "My main goal was to make as good a film that could stand on its own two feet regardless of all the other films. However I thought anything that worked in all the other movies, and I could have some fun with nodding towards, I would. But my main rule was, ‘You know what, we’re trying to reboot and start a whole new X-Men franchise’ and therefore, making a film work on its own two feet was far more important than trying to be referential* to the prior movies."

(*I think they mean reverential, not referential)

I'm sure if fans wrote this film, Xavier and Erik creating Cerebro would be on the very short list of info to stick in from the original trilogy, along with Xavier meeting Erik when he was 17.

Fans would be more obsessive over the minutiae, yes. But in the film it felt right for Beast to be the brainbox; why would Magneto know how to assemble such an intricate device? It was only proto-Cerebro, so we could get the bigger one at the mansion later. As for meeting when he's 17, that would necessitate a different storyline; they evidently felt it didn't fit what they had in mind. Singer was a bit foolish to let that precise age go into X1 because it was always going to become a hang-up later. He should have just said: "Many years ago, I met a young man called Erik Lensherr." Films should avoid dates and ages where possible!

And I think it's that lack of attention to details when they don't flow with the story they're trying to tell is what's making a lot of people consider this a preboot in the first place. If it strictly hit key notes expected from the original trilogy's history, there wouldn't be as much of a question.

Lack of attention makes it sound like they screwed up, when it was deliberate.

I agree there are now things in the existing films that don't add up (one woman at work - a mainstream viewer not a fanatic like us lot - raised the issue of Xavier walking and bald at the end of Wolverine). And I agree it is seeming like more of a reboot. But it fits generally into the existing films if that's what people want to accept. It's tricky.
 
Im starting to like the idea of the introduction of Jean and Scott on Second Class.

That would mean some things:

1. The X-men team would be 5 members, like the original team. Banshee in the place of Angel (the mutant that can fly), and Havok in the place of Iceman. X-men: Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Havok and Banshee. AMAZING team for a sequel, if you ask me.
2. Jean and Scott will have a pretty decent development with two sequels, second and third Class. And this will give their fans what they wanted since a long time ago.

And the main new character of Third Class would be Storm. With a decent development too, being the only new x-men.

Im loving this idea already :)
 
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Here's my two-cents for the new character: Cecilia Reyes (probably Kandyse McClure), she could serve as a personal physician for Charles Xavier while he gets accustomed to his condition.
 
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Here's my two-cents for the new character: Cecilia Reyes (probably Kandyse McClure), she could serve as a personal physician for Charles Xavier while he gets accustomed to his condition.
I'd like her in the movie as the new Moira type of role and I really dig the actress(so underrated). :up:
 
Im starting to like the idea of the introduction of Jean and Scott on Second Class.

That would mean some things:

1. The X-men team would be 5 members, like the original team. Banshee in the place of Angel (the mutant that can fly), and Havok in the place of Iceman. X-men: Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Havok and Banshee. AMAZING team for a sequel, if you ask me.
2. Jean and Scott will have a pretty decent development with two sequels, second and third Class. And this will give their fans what they wanted since a long time ago.

And the main new character of Third Class would be Storm. With a decent development too, being the only new x-men.

Im loving this idea already :)

Finally something I agree with you on, Angamb. I really like that idea. As close to the original team as we are going to get. Lets hope Vaughn and company decide to bring in Jean and Scott.
 

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